Freezasaurus
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COMICS! |OT| February 2016. World of love and strangeness and charm.
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Well there goes some more Messi money. There's even a Christmas Harley!
BKatastrophe
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I'm a wee bit late on this:
Cassandra Cain as Batgirl Vol. 1: Silent Knight
So, before reading this, I had interest in Cassandra Cain. Not much more than that, though, as I didn't know much about her other than she used to be a badass assassin and she had some kind of disability (originally I thought it was blindness for some reason). However, after reading this book I can safely say that she is one of my favorite Bat-Family members.
As the book starts, and we're introduced to this little girl who is far too good at killing, it's a very poignant scene. The art distracts from the fact that this book is dark. Granted, it's a Bat book, so "dark" is to be expected. Still though, child raised as an assassin is always something that is disturbing, and it always adds a level of depth to the character that I like. Granted, maybe I've watched too many anime, so it seems like a common trope to me. Still, it's a trope I have yet to get tired of.
We then get to a scene where she's sparring with Barbara who matches her blow for blow and then disarms her. Now, I know Cassie is badass, but Oracle is still my girl. As the first arc of the book progresses, and we see Cassie saving some people, but because she doesn't know how to say anything, she simply touches them on the shoulder or kisses them on the cheek. It's very adorable, and I really like it. It shows that she knows to comfort these people. A nice indication of her arc to becoming less than just a weapon, but more human. The arc also shows her progression of learning fear tactics as well, but again she can't talk. The heavy emphasis on the importance of body language is an extremely interesting topic, and one that I haven't really seen in a cape book before. So to see an entire character revolving around it the concept is nice. Different. A diversion from the norm. When she tries to save the one man from the prison and he dies, delivering the letter to his wife. Realizing how the world heavily relies on communication via words, she tries to write. Again, a powerful moment. It's not large or grand, but it's powerful because again, she wants to be normal. She wants to be able to communicate with people. So she can get closer. And even though Batman wants to hammer it in that she failed, with Barbara basically telling him to get his shit together and get the fuck out, we can see Cassie already takes it hard. She takes it hard again, later on, when she thinks Batman is dead (protecting a metahuman who affects her speech), she beats the man almost to death. Later yet again, she takes it hard when she couldn't stop another metahuman from killing a woman.
Later on, when the big turn happens and she learns to understand words, it is another powerful moment. She can finally understand people on another level, but at the cost of her skill. Eventually she gains her skill back, from Shiva no less (which makes two Bat family members at this point), but still retains the ability to talk. Honestly, I would have preferred she lose her ability to speak again, because it would have been a powerful sacrifice, but the stress on body language is still apparent. She still has trouble speaking and reading, and doesn't understand a lot of words. But she still wants to learn.
Now, the main story ends with several people (Babs, Bats, Gordon, and even Catwoman) gone missing. But there's another story at the end of the book that I found really cool, involving a shape-shifting Indian woman. It also again, shows how hard Cassie takes it when a person she swears to protect dies before she can save them. It shows that even though she may be a flawless fighter, she still has a ways to go to become a hero, and that's what she really wants. to become a hero. To save people. It also forces her to toe a line between being a killer again, or not. The line "I don't kill. Not anymore. But I don't lose, either," is badass as hell.
There's another arc running through the book, with Batman interrogating Cassie's "father." This arc I found interesting, because Batman has to not only get over the fact that his current protege has killed before, but he also is essentially battling for her custody. Showing that she is no longer an assassin. That she's a hero. Whereas her "father" actually does love her. She isn't just a weapon to him, but a daughter, although it is a twisted relationship. He effectively trained her to be a killing machine. She was his special prized possession. But he was also the only father she ever really knew.
The writing and dialogue in this book is great, and so is the art. My one gripe is that it feels like the book moves too fast at points, almost skipping points in the plot. There aren't a lot of words though, and that's why it feels that way. Since Cassie isn't constantly talking to herself, even when she does gain the ability to talk (words are still foreign enough that she'd rather not use them). Beyond that, I can't wait for more volumes to drop so I can read them. Really excited.
DESHI DESHI BASARA
Cassandra Cain as Batgirl Vol. 1: Silent Knight
So, before reading this, I had interest in Cassandra Cain. Not much more than that, though, as I didn't know much about her other than she used to be a badass assassin and she had some kind of disability (originally I thought it was blindness for some reason). However, after reading this book I can safely say that she is one of my favorite Bat-Family members.
As the book starts, and we're introduced to this little girl who is far too good at killing, it's a very poignant scene. The art distracts from the fact that this book is dark. Granted, it's a Bat book, so "dark" is to be expected. Still though, child raised as an assassin is always something that is disturbing, and it always adds a level of depth to the character that I like. Granted, maybe I've watched too many anime, so it seems like a common trope to me. Still, it's a trope I have yet to get tired of.
We then get to a scene where she's sparring with Barbara who matches her blow for blow and then disarms her. Now, I know Cassie is badass, but Oracle is still my girl. As the first arc of the book progresses, and we see Cassie saving some people, but because she doesn't know how to say anything, she simply touches them on the shoulder or kisses them on the cheek. It's very adorable, and I really like it. It shows that she knows to comfort these people. A nice indication of her arc to becoming less than just a weapon, but more human. The arc also shows her progression of learning fear tactics as well, but again she can't talk. The heavy emphasis on the importance of body language is an extremely interesting topic, and one that I haven't really seen in a cape book before. So to see an entire character revolving around it the concept is nice. Different. A diversion from the norm. When she tries to save the one man from the prison and he dies, delivering the letter to his wife. Realizing how the world heavily relies on communication via words, she tries to write. Again, a powerful moment. It's not large or grand, but it's powerful because again, she wants to be normal. She wants to be able to communicate with people. So she can get closer. And even though Batman wants to hammer it in that she failed, with Barbara basically telling him to get his shit together and get the fuck out, we can see Cassie already takes it hard. She takes it hard again, later on, when she thinks Batman is dead (protecting a metahuman who affects her speech), she beats the man almost to death. Later yet again, she takes it hard when she couldn't stop another metahuman from killing a woman.
Later on, when the big turn happens and she learns to understand words, it is another powerful moment. She can finally understand people on another level, but at the cost of her skill. Eventually she gains her skill back, from Shiva no less (which makes two Bat family members at this point), but still retains the ability to talk. Honestly, I would have preferred she lose her ability to speak again, because it would have been a powerful sacrifice, but the stress on body language is still apparent. She still has trouble speaking and reading, and doesn't understand a lot of words. But she still wants to learn.
Now, the main story ends with several people (Babs, Bats, Gordon, and even Catwoman) gone missing. But there's another story at the end of the book that I found really cool, involving a shape-shifting Indian woman. It also again, shows how hard Cassie takes it when a person she swears to protect dies before she can save them. It shows that even though she may be a flawless fighter, she still has a ways to go to become a hero, and that's what she really wants. to become a hero. To save people. It also forces her to toe a line between being a killer again, or not. The line "I don't kill. Not anymore. But I don't lose, either," is badass as hell.
There's another arc running through the book, with Batman interrogating Cassie's "father." This arc I found interesting, because Batman has to not only get over the fact that his current protege has killed before, but he also is essentially battling for her custody. Showing that she is no longer an assassin. That she's a hero. Whereas her "father" actually does love her. She isn't just a weapon to him, but a daughter, although it is a twisted relationship. He effectively trained her to be a killing machine. She was his special prized possession. But he was also the only father she ever really knew.
The writing and dialogue in this book is great, and so is the art. My one gripe is that it feels like the book moves too fast at points, almost skipping points in the plot. There aren't a lot of words though, and that's why it feels that way. Since Cassie isn't constantly talking to herself, even when she does gain the ability to talk (words are still foreign enough that she'd rather not use them). Beyond that, I can't wait for more volumes to drop so I can read them. Really excited.
The action sequences in that book are fantastic because of it.
Talk shit get hit
IGN sucked. Horrendously. Beyond terrible. I used to go there, and good god was it just the worst. Absolutely toxic forum. Don't know if they've cleaned up since 2011.
mmmmmm
DESHI DESHI BASARA
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I didn't need to read it to know it said all that. It changes nothing.
Yeah, i don't begrudge them. Did they initially tell us it was only going to be 6-12 issues? Did they not mention it because they know people tend to skip buying miniseries/short series monthly?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
It's not about begrudging someone. It's about the fact that Starfire is not going to be around anymore.
No they didn't.
This is them hiding the fact that the book is being canned. Of course Jimmy's not going to say it got cancelled.
You really think if Starfire was selling 40-60k DC would let them end it. Lol.
What if she joins another book or gets a relaunch?
She will be on a team. Solo book is toast.
I wish those Harley figures were a statue line. I hate figures like that. The paint is always shit and the prototypes are all lies.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That last page is ultimate (heh) proof that Rocafort needs to stay on this book. Honestly if he leaves I don't think I can continue. He is a perfect fit.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Probably wouldn't interest me.....unless Zatana was also on this team.
i only have one figure pre-ordered, Zatanna animated series line. I want to see the end result of Supergirl Darwyn Cooke line before ordering, it's a trap.
Very much so. Make these figures into a series of statues like art of war or batman black and white and I'll buy them all.
Poodlestrike
Banned
From the sound of the article it's less that it's getting canceled and more that it's ending. Like a 12 issue miniseries.
I kinda like that.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
BrokenFiction
Member
Co-signed. What's the holdup, Marvel?
I think I read the artist had personal problems leading to the delay.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
If you enjoy Starfire definitely check out Power Girl: Power Trip if you haven't already! It's already completed but Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner both worked on it so it has a similar tone. It's really good! Atlee is in it too, she's Peej's BFF.
Freezasaurus
Member
Marvel needs to sign him exclusive.
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oh man, if joints on figures didn't make me vomit....
WadiumArcadium
Member
yeah this joint shaming is really bringing comics-gaf down. I like the wonder woman figure (though those joints....)
Freezasaurus
Member
WadiumArcadium
Member
Missed Marquez but Iron Man #5 was a good start to the new arc. Enjoyed the Rhodey stuff. Sorta friendly Doom still creeps me out.
Are these equivalent to Figma/Figuarts, or are they shit American toys regardless?
Freezasaurus
Member
It's funny you say that, because figma aren't all that sturdy to begin with.
Meet me mid. Snipers only.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Sniper rifles are for cowards!
This is why i'm voting for Trump.
Bought like 15 Deadpool Minis. Cant wait for the movie tomorrow.
Just wait when he is disfigured again next year.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm gonna have to wait until Saturday morning BOOOOOOOOOO
WadiumArcadium
Member
I'm going tomorrow as well. Hope they show the new Batman v Superman trailer. I want to see that Batman fight scene on a big screen.
Currently reading Vader #16. You're going to love the second page.
Thats what happens when you drop all your Marvels!
Quick scoping is a way of life!
I know that feel bro. I'm bed ridden with the flu myself.
Realest talk. TJ is a coward.
Freezasaurus
Member
WadiumArcadium
Member
Vader #16 was great. Nice continuation of the annual story. I was hoping Gillen would revisit Shu-Torin at some point. That final page was cold, but anything else would have been wrong.
Please don't kill Aphra.
Would never happen with digital comics. Another L for physical comics.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
But but but Deadpool is a Fox movie!
That's a lot of good comics and also DC comics you have there.
edit: I really need to get back to Hellboy, i'm still halfway through vol 1 and mainly stopped reading because i find the library edition too large to enjoy reading often.
Calcium
Banned
Haha!