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COMICS! |OT| January 2015. So many variants you'd swear it's 1995 instead.

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Shin Johnpv

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Monday pre-lunch list time



Batgirl #38
Batman Eternal #41
Constantine #21
Earth 2 World's End #15
Grayson #6
Green Lantern Corps #38
Justice League United #8
New 52 Futures End #37
Superman Wonder Woman #15
Worlds' Finest #30
 
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Rafa=FedKilla

Banned
Messi said:
I think we all knew this when he didn't draw the last arc. Feels a bit like a bait and switch.
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It's Marvel, of course it was going to be a bait and switch. I don't like this movement of artists thinking they are wanted for their writing. I don't want to read a Scott Snyder drawn Batman comic, I want Skottie Young drawing the fuck outta Rocket Raccoon doing insane shit in a zany universe.
 
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Boogiepop

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So here's a question for you guys: which characters introduced since the 90s on in Marvel/DC would say have enough sticking power that they'll stay around as a significant part of their universes, rather than just kind of slowly drifting into greater and greater obscurity? Off the top of my head Deadpool and I guess Carnage have probably dug in far enough to qualify (I actually was surprised to find out the Venom and Jubilee were 80s, though the latter just barely). I'm also really hoping the new Ms Marvel can manage and I'm hopeful on that front, but I'd say it's too soon to judge there. Now that Damien is apparently back (haven't seen the execution yet, just heard the news/spoilers), maybe he'll be able to pull it off as well. (I wish I could say Terry Mcginnis too, but his position in the comics has felt kind of rocky for a while).

Just a thought I've had here and there, since DC/Marvel are very focused more so on characters that have been around for quite a while.
 
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Afrodium

Banned
Comic newbie here with yet another question for Comic-GAF (you may remember me from a post about continuity in the December thread).

If I want to get into an ongoing series, say Batman or X-Men or whatever, would I just pick up the most recent issue and try to keep up or would I read back issues so that I'm brought up to speed? Obviously is the series has hundreds of issues I'm not going to read all of them just so that I can buy the latest, but a reasonable amount so that I at least understand the current arc. I see people in this thread mentioning adding and dropping books to their pull list, so I'm gettong the impression that you can just jump in and out of most ongoing series at will and will generally be able to keep up once a new arc starts.

I'm asking because I was looking at reading some new 52 Batman since its relatively new and the universe was rebooted just a few years ago, but it would already cost me about $70 to read all of the back issues. I don't feel like spending that kind of cash, so can I just read the newest issue for a few months and be alright to keep up with the series indefinitely? Is that generally what comic readers do?
 
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E the Shaggy

Junior Member
Boogiepop said:
So here's a question for you guys: which characters introduced since the 90s on in Marvel/DC would say have enough sticking power that they'll stay around as a significant part of their universes, rather than just kind of slowly drifting into greater and greater obscurity? Off the top of my head Deadpool and I guess Carnage have probably dug in far enough to qualify (I actually was surprised to find out the Venom and Jubilee were 80s, though the latter just barely). I'm also really hoping the new Ms Marvel can manage and I'm hopeful on that front, but I'd say it's too soon to judge there. Now that Damien is apparently back (haven't seen the execution yet, just heard the news/spoilers), maybe he'll be able to pull it off as well. (I wish I could say Terry Mcginnis too, but his position in the comics has felt kind of rocky for a while).

Just a thought I've had here and there, since DC/Marvel are very focused more so on characters that have been around for quite a while.
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Thunderbolts debuted in the 90s and they've been around, albeit with different incarnations.
 
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Serpentine

Banned
wetflame said:
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I think the human mouth may be a step too far.
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i damn near spit out my coffee lmao
 
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Mindwipe

Member
Well, getting in a film helps.

So War Machine. Unless you're counting Rhodey from his first appearance, which was in '79, rather than when he became WM.

Maria Hill is probably now also going to be a pretty permanent mainstay.

I don't think Kate Bishop or X-23 are going anywhere either.

DC I'm really struggling. Larfreeze? I wish I could say Jamie as the Blue Beetle but I'm only about 80% sure as he's never managed to carry his own book long term.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

Banned
Boogiepop said:
So here's a question for you guys: which characters introduced since the 90s on in Marvel/DC would say have enough sticking power that they'll stay around as a significant part of their universes, rather than just kind of slowly drifting into greater and greater obscurity? Off the top of my head Deadpool and I guess Carnage have probably dug in far enough to qualify (I actually was surprised to find out the Venom and Jubilee were 80s, though the latter just barely). I'm also really hoping the new Ms Marvel can manage and I'm hopeful on that front, but I'd say it's too soon to judge there. Now that Damien is apparently back (haven't seen the execution yet, just heard the news/spoilers), maybe he'll be able to pull it off as well. (I wish I could say Terry Mcginnis too, but his position in the comics has felt kind of rocky for a while).

Just a thought I've had here and there, since DC/Marvel are very focused more so on characters that have been around for quite a while.
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Jessica Jones for sure is the biggest one.
 
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Owzers

Member
Afrodium said:
Comic newbie here with yet another question for Comic-GAF (you may remember me from a post about continuity in the December thread).

If I want to get into an ongoing series, say Batman or X-Men or whatever, would I just pick up the most recent issue and try to keep up or would I read back issues so that I'm brought up to speed? Obviously is the series has hundreds of issues I'm not going to read all of them just so that I can buy the latest, but a reasonable amount so that I at least understand the current arc. I see people in this thread mentioning adding and dropping books to their pull list, so I'm gettong the impression that you can just jump in and out of most ongoing series at will and will generally be able to keep up once a new arc starts.

I'm asking because I was looking at reading some new 52 Batman since its relatively new and the universe was rebooted just a few years ago, but it would already cost me about $70 to read all of the back issues. I don't feel like spending that kind of cash, so can I just read the newest issue for a few months and be alright to keep up with the series indefinitely? Is that generally what comic readers do?
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I think people mostly jump back on books when they get creative team changes. If i dislike a book and end up dropping it, i usually don't try another arc down the line. For Batman by Snyder in the New 52 i'd start with the first trade or issue #35 at the start of the recent End Game arc. I think it's best to read from the beginning on this one if you want to read that book, though i'm not a fan of the series, there was a previous arc based on the Joker earlier that you'd probably want to read to get the full story.
 
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Shin Johnpv

Member
Boogiepop said:
So here's a question for you guys: which characters introduced since the 90s on in Marvel/DC would say have enough sticking power that they'll stay around as a significant part of their universes, rather than just kind of slowly drifting into greater and greater obscurity? Off the top of my head Deadpool and I guess Carnage have probably dug in far enough to qualify (I actually was surprised to find out the Venom and Jubilee were 80s, though the latter just barely). I'm also really hoping the new Ms Marvel can manage and I'm hopeful on that front, but I'd say it's too soon to judge there. Now that Damien is apparently back (haven't seen the execution yet, just heard the news/spoilers), maybe he'll be able to pull it off as well. (I wish I could say Terry Mcginnis too, but his position in the comics has felt kind of rocky for a while).

Just a thought I've had here and there, since DC/Marvel are very focused more so on characters that have been around for quite a while.
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Harley Quinn obviously. Cable, and Gambit I'd say too.
 
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Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
whatsinaname said:
Some good new for Kipp. We might get a Deluxe Five Ghosts hardcover.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1632152886/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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Woohoohoo! This makes me really happy. I wasn't so sure Image was actually going to do a hardcover for Five Ghosts since it's not exactly popular.
I'm so glad it's actually happening though! I enjoyed the first volume so much. And the art really, really deserves the oversized treatment.
 
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Boogiepop

Member
Shin Johnpv said:
Harley Quinn obviously. Cable, and Gambit I'd say too.
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I have no idea how I managed to forget Harley in all that, and Gambit is a pretty big miss too on my part (though it looks like he just barely scrapes in by debuting in 1990). I actually looked up Cable since he feels so 90s and technically he first appeared in the 80s, but not actually AS Cable till 1990. Huh.

Edit: Didn't even think of War Machine as being that new. Also, Wikipedia has taught me that apparently he's now Iron Patriot in the comics? Huh. And some other nice suggestions too, thanks guys!
 
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Isak_Borg

Member
Kipp said:
Woohoohoo! This makes me really happy. I wasn't so sure Image was actually going to do a hardcover for Five Ghosts since it's not exactly popular.
I'm so glad it's actually happening though! I enjoyed the first volume so much. And the art really, really deserves the oversized treatment.
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Frank told me they have to pay out of pocket to release the HC so it's up to his discretion if they release the HC not image -D.

I'm really glad you like the book.
 
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Afrodium

Banned
sillymonkey321 said:
I think people mostly jump back on books when they get creative team changes. If i dislike a book and end up dropping it, i usually don't try another arc down the line. For Batman by Snyder in the New 52 i'd start with the first trade or issue #35 at the start of the recent End Game arc. I think it's best to read from the beginning on this one if you want to read that book, though i'm not a fan of the series, there was a previous arc based on the Joker earlier that you'd probably want to read to get the full story.
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So I take it that's how it goes with most books? For example, if a friend tells you "hey, (insert book here) is really good right now" you would want to track down the back issues/trades instead of hopping on at the latest issue?
 
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Fjordson

Member
Hi Comics-GAF, I was wondering if someone could give a quick word on the Fear Agent library editions. Ive never read the series, but seems like a no-brainer read for someone who enjoys classic sci-fi, no?

Also hard for me to resist a Dark Horse hardcover. Every book I buy from them tends to look great and be incredibly well built. Nice paper, sewn bindings, etc.
 
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whatsinaname

Member
Fjordson said:
Hi Comics-GAF, I was wondering if someone could give a quick word on the Fear Agent library editions. Ive never read the series, but seems like a no-brainer read for someone who enjoys classic sci-fi, no?

Also hard for me to resist a Dark Horse hardcover. Every book I buy from them tends to look great and be incredibly well built. Nice paper, sewn bindings, etc.
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Like you said, a no-brainer if you enjoy pulp sci-fi. The hard covers are of great quality and definitely do justice to the art.
 
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Busaiku

Member
PsychBat! said:
I think no one has answered this.

This Gwen is from an alternate universe.
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Right, I know that.
But people are saying that at the end of Spiderverse, she goes back to her own universe. But other works show that she's still in 616 (Silk is unique, so it's definitely not an alternate universe version).
 
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Fjordson

Member
whatsinaname said:
Like you said, a no-brainer if you enjoy pulp sci-fi. The hard covers are of great quality and definitely do justice to the art.
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Sweet. Thanks.

I don't have a huge comics collection, but my Dark Horse stuff is among my favourites out of what I do own. Just the care they put into everything they put out is impressive. I recently got the Big Damn Sin City release and it's awesome. Easy to read flat and solidly built, despite being a huge behemoth of a book.
 
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arkon

Member
Afrodium said:
So I take it that's how it goes with most books? For example, if a friend tells you "hey, (insert book here) is really good right now" you would want to track down the back issues/trades instead of hopping on at the latest issue?
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Depends how the book is structured. For example are they stories that are done in one issue (increasingly rare these days) or is it a story being told over say 5-6 issues? In the latter case I'd look to when the creative teams started on the book and go from there. If the former I'd normally go with the most recent issue and then go back if I really liked it.
 
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whatsinaname

Member
Fjordson said:
Sweet. Thanks.

I don't have a huge comics collection, but my Dark Horse stuff is among my favourites out of what I do own. Just the care they put into everything they put out is impressive. I recently got the Big Damn Sin City release and it's awesome. Easy to read flat and solidly built, despite being a huge behemoth of a book.
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True. They are great editions and very reasonably priced too.
 
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CrichtonKicks

Member
Boogiepop said:
So here's a question for you guys: which characters introduced since the 90s on in Marvel/DC would say have enough sticking power that they'll stay around as a significant part of their universes, rather than just kind of slowly drifting into greater and greater obscurity? Off the top of my head Deadpool and I guess Carnage have probably dug in far enough to qualify (I actually was surprised to find out the Venom and Jubilee were 80s, though the latter just barely). I'm also really hoping the new Ms Marvel can manage and I'm hopeful on that front, but I'd say it's too soon to judge there. Now that Damien is apparently back (haven't seen the execution yet, just heard the news/spoilers), maybe he'll be able to pull it off as well. (I wish I could say Terry Mcginnis too, but his position in the comics has felt kind of rocky for a while).

Just a thought I've had here and there, since DC/Marvel are very focused more so on characters that have been around for quite a while.
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In addition to what has already been said I would add Batman villains Victor Zsasz, Bane, Hush, and maybe Professor Pyg and Superman villain Doomsday. Also on Batman's end Renee Montoya may qualify since she's a part of the Gotham TV show now (has she appeared in the New 52?). Kyle Raynor certainly qualifies as well.

EDIT- Bart Allen, Connor Kent, and Stargirl as well.
 
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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
read a few #1s today, but first things first:

Daredevil (2011 Waid) #5 - starting to love this, and its what I want a street level book to be. its what I wish Spider Man was. Its the story with a blind kid that overhears some latverians at the office and gets fired for it. Still need to go back and read DD being outed because it drives me nut everytime someone mentions it in this run

ok so the #1s

Venom (2011 Remender) - Very cool, and nothing like I expected. I did not know Flash had no legs (so the symbiote...I guess makes legs? I guess its a shapeshifter so it makes sense). I did not know that he wasnt bonded to the suit, and could only use it for 48 hours beofre he does get bonded (which im sure will be an arc eventually). I like how while he's in control the suit it more like when Spider-man wore it, and as he loses control it becomes bigger, grows the mouth and tongue and shit. Good first impression, also Jack O'Lantern is a dick

Avengers Academy #1 (2010) - meh :/ Thats my feelings on it...meh. No Hercules, No X-23 and no sentinel kid, the 3 reasons I had to read it from seeing the squad in AvX? Meh :/

Also, side note, Im no prude, far from it, I actually had no problem with that prony Spider Woman cover for example... but Tygra's "costume" really bothers me. Its just so lazy, hey here's a naked chick, but she's furry so its cool. I have the same problem with that blue chick on Hope's team, and to a lesser extent, X-23 when she just uses a fucking bikini top / bra. Its just lazy. Oh speaking of Laura...

X-23 #1 (2010) - X-23 is one of the characters I wanted to know mroe about when I started reading comics again, so I decided to check this out. I actually really enjoyed it. It's a little emo, but the whole character is a little emo, so that's fine. The art is really striking, and its a good peak into what makes Laura tick. Curious to read more. But yeah, that art:

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I added X-Force from...err...2010? 2011? The team before Remender's Uncanny, the team with X-23, because I want to check more of her.
 
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KoruptData

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I just read "Joe The Barbarian" and thought it was one of Grant Morrisons best works. Just a well thought out, well executed, wildly imaginative story that has to be his most accessible script. Reminded me so much of my childhood with all the toys. Sean Murphys art is glorious, nothing else needed to say about that.
 
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GorillaWithDandruff

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Spike Spiegel said:
I finished watching that movie for the first time last night.
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Ohhh!!! Was that that Superman movie where Superman had like 15 min. of dialogue?!? Oh Oh Oh or where the last hour was destruction porn?!?? Or where like some stupid family couldn't figure out how to fucking run to their left?!??

.....or maybe I'm thinking of a different movie.

Fjordson said:
Hi Comics-GAF, I was wondering if someone could give a quick word on the Fear Agent library editions. Ive never read the series, but seems like a no-brainer read for someone who enjoys classic sci-fi, no?

Also hard for me to resist a Dark Horse hardcover. Every book I buy from them tends to look great and be incredibly well built. Nice paper, sewn bindings, etc.
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Fear Agent's the fucking shit.
 
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Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
Isak_Borg said:
Frank told me they have to pay out of pocket to release the HC so it's up to his discretion if they release the HC not image -D.

I'm really glad you like the book.
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Ah! Very interesting.

Fjordson said:
Hi Comics-GAF, I was wondering if someone could give a quick word on the Fear Agent library editions. Ive never read the series, but seems like a no-brainer read for someone who enjoys classic sci-fi, no?

Also hard for me to resist a Dark Horse hardcover. Every book I buy from them tends to look great and be incredibly well built. Nice paper, sewn bindings, etc.
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Thirding the Fear Agent Library Edition recommendation. Excellent comic and an excellent product.

I'm a sucker for Dark Horse's hardcovers too. They're so nice.
 
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Filthy Slug

Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
KoruptData said:
I just read "Joe The Barbarian" and thought it was one of Grant Morrisons best works. Just a well thought out, well executed, wildly imaginative story that has to be his most accessible script. Reminded me so much of my childhood with all the toys. Sean Murphys art is glorious, nothing else needed to say about that.
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Yeah, it's a super simple story that really acts like a showcase for Sean Murphy's talents--especially his attention to detail. It doesn't get brought up much, but I think it's a great book. It's also cool that in the first few pages of the first issue, you get a tour of the house that pretty much tells you where Joe and co. are going to adventure through, but in the warped fantasy world.

Fjordson said:
Hi Comics-GAF, I was wondering if someone could give a quick word on the Fear Agent library editions. Ive never read the series, but seems like a no-brainer read for someone who enjoys classic sci-fi, no?
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Fuck yes.
 
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