I was under the impression that this was very much intentional by both companies.
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COMICS! |OT| June 2016. The Manhattan Project
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I was under the impression that this was very much intentional by both companies.
It is.
both companies have elements of both, obviously since alot of times their pulling from the same pool of writers
but there is this feeling that Marvel has been more culturally aware of real world issues while DC tended to be stay within the realm of fantasy
I don't know how much of that is founded though
the fact that marvel uses real life locations makes it more relatable maybe?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
This is what I was thinking too.
whatsinaname
Member
You should read JLA/Avengers. I think Busiek puts forward a good view of the differences in relationships between the super-heroes and non-superheroes in both universes.
I'd love to read that.
BKatastrophe
Member
Death Force #1
I was kind of into this at first, but then
and I realized this was going to be like any other stereotypical male-oriented action movie. Since it's only six issues I may keep reading it. I dunno. Shit makes me uncomfortable and it'll be on my mind all day
I was kind of into this at first, but then
the rape happened
Freezasaurus
Member
Did any of the September solicits besides Dark Horse come out yet?
whatsinaname
Member
Image is out. Brian Fellows posted a link yesterday.
Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=207205687&postcount=3952
BKatastrophe
Member
The Revisionist #1
So imagine Ivar, Timewalker with more grit and noir. I'm in.
So imagine Ivar, Timewalker with more grit and noir. I'm in.
Freezasaurus
Member
Eww. I'll just wait until CBR posts them.
I think a lot of the things it focused on are pretty established core elements of the character and have that weight because of it. I don't think those elements are really something I necessarily need a writer to rehash each time they come on board (unless obviously they are changing it).
In any case,
as I said i feel like it was less about "The Death of Batman!" and more about what he is and the juxtaposition that was about to happen with the Gotham twins and what they represent in this universe.
Tragicomedy
Member
Very interested to see these discussions on Batman #1. I thought Batman Rebirth was pointless and boring, but this first issue was pretty dang perfect. I'm particular,
Just iconic as hell. I'll agree that the attempt to pull my heartstrings didn't work, but that never works for me in comics. I don't tear up or get worked up over funny books.
King hasn't totally won me over yet, but two issues in and I'm onboard. I'll blame the Rebirth misfire on the dual writing credit and DC wanting to push out multiple #1s to boost sales.
the scene on the plane where the ranting passenger goes on about the hero Gotham deserves, and it cuts to the boy seeing Batman holding onto the wing...HOT DAMN, that's good comics.
King hasn't totally won me over yet, but two issues in and I'm onboard. I'll blame the Rebirth misfire on the dual writing credit and DC wanting to push out multiple #1s to boost sales.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I don't buy comics to read lists that don't have pictures.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Reading and making lists is the only reason I buy comics.
echoshifting
Banned
I know this is the internet and we're never supposed to admit we may have been wrong about something or that somebody changed our mind, but well.
You haven't completely changed my mind but you have given me a lot to think about regarding King's Batman. Not enough to compel me to re-read but I'll certainly be keeping your analysis in mind when the next issue hits.
BKatastrophe
Member
Good thing or bad thing? And of course it happens right around Civil War 2
echoshifting
Banned
GOOD THING
BKatastrophe
Member
Shit. I just realized that Lobdell is getting up there as far as writers having really long runs on properties. He's been running Red Hood books for what, five years now?
I know it sucked, but it lead to a lot of good stuff. I mean, BND was pretty heavily praised from what I've seen. Would undoing it really be all that great?
BKatastrophe
Member
Oh I wholeheartedly agree, I'm just wondering if
undoing it at this point really makes that much of a difference. It's not like undoing the New 52. Or is it?
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
The thing that I always find funny about time passing in the super hero universes is that it seems like the kids grow up, but the adults always stay the same age.
Like Batman, he's more or less the same age as he was when Dick was Robin, but now Dick is just a few years younger and Bruce hasn't changed at all.
Spider-Man, went from being a teenager to being an adult, and then stopped.
I also love the fan theory that Franklin Richards is using his powers to keep people the same age while time moves forward around them.
Like Batman, he's more or less the same age as he was when Dick was Robin, but now Dick is just a few years younger and Bruce hasn't changed at all.
Spider-Man, went from being a teenager to being an adult, and then stopped.
I also love the fan theory that Franklin Richards is using his powers to keep people the same age while time moves forward around them.
echoshifting
Banned
Onslaught ;p
whatsinaname
Member
They should have Doom disappear for a bit and have Valeria take over Latveria.
TetraxShards
Member
End of Batman New 52 spoilers:
Technically, he's now younger, at least physically. All the damage he built up over his years as Batman has been healed up, stuff like scar tissue and all that.
Echo mentioning Onslaught made me want to read that arc again, looked it up on MU and the first issue they have for it is Excalibur #100, written by...Warren Ellis 
Whut? Was he on the book long and was it good?
Whut? Was he on the book long and was it good?
echobro, I'm wrong all the time and this may be another one of those times lol, but I appreciate you saying that.
I get a lot of what you and a couple other guys are saying, really, it just seemed pretty deliberate to not be
a lot of setup for what the Gotham twins might be bringing to the story.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, comics.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Echo mentioning Onslaught made me want to read that arc again, looked it up on MU and the first issue they have for it is Excalibur #100, written by...Warren Ellis
Whut? Was he on the book long and was it good?
His work on AoA was pretty good compared to the writing in some of the other titles in that event.
Question for people with the 52 Omnibus or just in the know. Which arcs are written by which authors? Like for example which books/arcs were written by Morrison or Rucka? Ive heard that there is some bonus material in the back of the omnibus where the authors talk about their individual issues or storylines rather and am kinda curious as to who wrote what as im reading it for the first time now.
Also is there a good guide as to what I need to read before and during Infinite Crisis? What are the more influential titles to read? I really dont need all the minor tie ins and stuff. Which books feature Super Boy Primes story stuff/?
Also is there a good guide as to what I need to read before and during Infinite Crisis? What are the more influential titles to read? I really dont need all the minor tie ins and stuff. Which books feature Super Boy Primes story stuff/?
I just looked through some of the issues and it looks like all of them say they're written by Rucka, Morrison, Waid, and Johns. Seems like just one big ol collaboration.
It was also how Marvel differentiated themselves early on. Spider-Man had problems with bullies, money, etc... Tony Stark had alcohol issues. The Fantastic Four had family squabbles, etc...
Other than Green Lantern/Green Arrow's notable social stuff DC didn't really touch on those grounded problems as much in the 60s and 70s, so DC was fantastical and Marvel was easier for most people to relate to.
I don't think they ever really break it down. It's those four with help from Giffen as far as I can tell, and I don't think it was issue by issue. I suspect that Morrison was doing the mad scientist stuff and the space stuff with Animal Man, Starfire and Adam Strange, Rucka the Question stuff, Johns the Black Adam stuff, but I'm not sure if anyone has ever really broken down who did what.
DC rebirth has been a pleasant surprise so far. I've read everything except Batman so far and all of the books have been average to very good, which is better than I would have anticipated. DC seems to be in a better place than they've been since 2009-2010.
I forgot how good the lead up to Onslaught was. Event aside, this shit leading up to it is really cool. These issues with Onslaught putting the whammy on Jean in a store with the "lol Xavier is like a father to you? Then check this memory out" moment, Juggernaut going to the mansion so Jean could help him, the whole vibe of a quiet evening in the x-mansion, no big villains, no big fights, and then bam, the "call was coming from inside the house", great stuff. And they had been sprinkling the name Onslaught for months too iirc, the whole thing was really well done.
Until the actual event of course >_>
Until the actual event of course >_>
TetraxShards
Member
Oh man, the nostalgia is real. The "WHO IS THE X-TRAITOR?" stuff had been going for YEARS. Every single letter in Essential X-Men (the UK reprint book) had some sort of weird theory, and then it turned out that
it was Xavier the whole time
I miss mid 90s X-Men.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Me too.
Schweinehund
Member
They've never really broken it down, sometimes the weekly notes in the old tp's mention who did what. My impression was Johns and Morrison did the bulk of the work as the book went on, with Morrison more on Booster Gold and Johns more on Black Adam. Renee is Rucka's favorite too.
Freezasaurus
Member
Batman #1 was solid. Not as good as Detective Comics, but good.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
you know comic was not good
titans rebirth
titans rebirth
TetraxShards
Member
He died, but he got better. He existed as residual psychic energy that caused a whole town to say "I am an X-Man." over and over again. Norman Osborn's Dark X-Men and the Dark Beast got involved. Cyclops' team rescued him and he lived on Utopia for a bit. Not sure about what happened after that.
I thought the big hint was that
Uncle Ben and a bunch of other dead Spidey characters not named Ben Reilly would be coming back to life