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COMICS! |OT| March 2014. Longshot and Domino are hogging all the four-leaf clovers!
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very much so
It's worth it if you enjoy anything at all. No idea how it hasn't gotten a show or something yet.
Freezasaurus
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Fuck. Yes.
One of the best ongoings. You won't regret it. Great art style, too.
Just ordered myself the first collection of Immortal Iron Fist (needed something to tag onto an order for free shipping, and I'd been interested in it for a while). Here's hoping I like it! I also noticed that there's apparently a Wolverine and the X-men Omnibus coming out? And it collects the whole run up till when they're rebooting the number scheme at a good price? I read the first volume or two of the trades that my friend picked up and enjoyed it quite a bit, so I may just go ahead and drop a preorder on that.
Freezasaurus
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So I was just browsing an online shop I sometimes buy figures from, and came across this oddball thing, supposedly coming out this summer:
I know they're making Monopoly variants out of absolutely everything under the sun, but this one still struck me as odd.
I know they're making Monopoly variants out of absolutely everything under the sun, but this one still struck me as odd.
BuddyJoeHooker
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How come nobody mentioned how good Avengers World #3 was? A Shang-Chi spotlight issue with Stefano Caselli drawing Gorgon again.
Surprise of the month.
Surprise of the month.
TheDarkKnight774
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Required? No. But they're also great reads
KoruptData
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Omg, Planetary Issue 3 - Dead Gunfighters = Most awesome gun scene ever!
James Woods
Banned
Going through Aquaman #27 and it is a lot better than the previous issue. Once I am done I'll read #28 and then get started on Fraction's Hawkeye series. Or I'll finally go through Rucka's Punisher run. I just thought he did those War Zone's, which I thought were pretty bad.
KoruptData
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Wow, Forever Evil 6.
GrandHarrier
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Wow, Forever Evil 6.
I'm on board.
KoruptData
Member
You read it?
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I think they're part of the trades, right? It's all part of the run. Rule of thumb, if a mini series is by the original series author, it's canon.
I wrote about this when the issue came out - I was bewildered to the point of being pissed off. #2 was what? Smasher at AIM was it? Then #3 is a fight scene with almost ZERO context. I had no idea what was going on. No idea who the baddie was, why they were fighting, why I should give two shits, why I spent money on this bollocks. Was it six or eight pages devoted to ancestors?? Ugh, just thinking about it is making my blood rise. This was an issue where absolutely nothing happened, it was like Shaolin Cowboy without the tongue in its cheek.
It reminded me a lot of the Avengers issue from Hickman where they're all in that casino and AIM are there - another issue where I had no idea for the context or meaning, but at least that had a B-plot that was pretty fun. Avengers World had nothing, fuck that book.
Sorry
Also, someone needs to post the Forever Evil spoilers so you lot can quit being oblique. I take it something happens other than Lex and Batman tensing their neck muscles at each other?
okay, don't read if you can wait :
Nightwing is a human bomb. Heart needs to stop to diffuse the bomb. Luthor kills him. Tells Batman there is still time, to save him, afterwards.
Hooded figure : ALEXANDER FUCKING LUTHOR
Big mystery force : nope, you don't get to know in this issue
"Villains" don't fight nicely.
GrandHarrier
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Yeah grabbed a digital copy since it'll be awhile before I can get my physical.
^^^
above post will burn your eyes people.
GrandHarrier
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My thoughts on Forever Evil #6
This is going to read well, collected. I really like that we continue to get some serious consequences.
The reveal of
is expected
This is going to read well, collected. I really like that we continue to get some serious consequences.
Especially loved Captain Cold beating Johnny Quick. I don't think we're going to see the Big Bad this event and I'm OK with that. It was have been rushed at best.
Alexander Luther
(the Crime Syndicate without Alexander would have been weird) but the fact that he is Earth 3's Shazam is actually pretty awesome.
The "death" of Nightwing is interesting. I doubt it'll stick but I am curious to see where they go with it.
My enjoyment of this event went up a notch after this issue .
My enjoyment of this event went up a notch after this issue .
Jedeye Sniv
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Given that this is the sequel to another event where nothing really happened, we should be super pissed about that. It's bullshit. They've got 7 issues across half a year, tell us a full fucking story dammit. Not a middle chapter.
GrandHarrier
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Shrug. Is each part of a trilogy a full story? I think so, so I consider things like this, to be exactly the same. I've had the feeling that there wasn't going to be enough issues for both the Crime Syndicate
AND whatever it is that kicked their ass so rushing it all together at the end would be a terrible mistake. Focus on the Crime Syndicate and Luthors Legion of Doom.
I like ongoing stories. I'm the kind of guy who gets bummed when a book, show, or game ends. Part of my love for comics is the continuous narrative.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
If Johns had paced the series with any kind of urgency then there would be plenty of time to do all that and more. As it is, we got 5 issues where pretty much nothing happened so far. The JLA were 'killed' (lol not really they're in a big dream sequence guys!!), the Crime Syndicate are revealed, Lex gets a team together. For five issues.
Was it even advertised as a trilogy? I could just about cope with the Trinity War being a rather sprawling prologue but it's getting a bit silly now. Is DC going to be rolling events for the forseeable future now?
GrandHarrier
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Dunno man. You seem to have an issue with events in general. Both DC and Marvel have been rolling from one event to the next. It's kinda how superhero comics work.
But my thoughts on the pacing of Forever Evil; The first couple issues were building the sense of dread. That the bad guys had won and now the world was dealing with the fallout from that. The formation of the team was fairly organic. Lex had a few ideas but most of his team wasn't planned.
What I am really curious about, now, is what are the ramifications of this event going to be? Clearly, as we've seen, Lex and Cold are going to gain recognition and become members (how, we don't know) of the Justice League. The JLA is going to be disbanded.
What else are we going to see? Perhaps the beginnings of the Science Police?
We're also seeing a world that is now more parallel to Earth 2 than ever before, both having suffered an extra dimensional invasion. Earth Prime survived the Apokalyptian invasion mostly unscathed, but now they've been dealt a blow similar to that of Earth 2.
But my thoughts on the pacing of Forever Evil; The first couple issues were building the sense of dread. That the bad guys had won and now the world was dealing with the fallout from that. The formation of the team was fairly organic. Lex had a few ideas but most of his team wasn't planned.
What I am really curious about, now, is what are the ramifications of this event going to be? Clearly, as we've seen, Lex and Cold are going to gain recognition and become members (how, we don't know) of the Justice League. The JLA is going to be disbanded.
What else are we going to see? Perhaps the beginnings of the Science Police?
We're also seeing a world that is now more parallel to Earth 2 than ever before, both having suffered an extra dimensional invasion. Earth Prime survived the Apokalyptian invasion mostly unscathed, but now they've been dealt a blow similar to that of Earth 2.
I don't think there's supposed to be another big line wide event for another year or so, I'm not sure where Harrier is getting the trilogy stuff from.
The purpose of Trinity War and Forever Evil was to show that the League(s) are very much fallible and not gods among men. While they were too busy posturing and in fighting they were able to be infiltrated, beaten, and subsequently allow Earth to be Invaded and conquered. On the flip side, the so called villains were able to quickly assemble under Luthor's leadership and
pretty easily
I don't think the monster and the crack in the sky are meant to be anything more than a red herring and diversion.
Jedeye Sniv
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Not at all, I don't like bad and lazy storytelling. Maybe my favourite ever comic story is DC One Million, it's incredible. I loved Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis and all the attendant minis. I just re-read No Man's Land and found it held up fantastically. My second favourite Superman story is the New Krypton saga. I loved Infinity.
Events can be very good if they are good stories at their core.
edit: I hated Age of Ultron for pretty much the same reasons. I'm no company loyalist, and probably 80% of the books I've bought in my life have been DC books.
I got the sense of dread perfectly well from the end of the Trinity War though. And we as comics readers KNOW 100% that the bad guys will lose - the story is about how they'll lose, not if they will. Lex could have built his team by #2 no problem.
This feels a lot like the status quo at the start of Infinite Crisis tbh. JLA disbanded, villains in a massive position of power,
Alex Luthor
The Earth 1/2 crossover could be the next event even. Universes teaming up to beat Superboy Prime or Eclipso or the Anti-Monitor or whatever Johns is going to pull out the nostalgia bag.
GrandHarrier
Member
By Trilogy I meant one event leading into the next. Each event can be read separately and solo but together they create a cohesive narrative.
Jedeye Sniv
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I pity the sucker that gets Forever Evil standalone. Take some of our less continuity minded community members here. Would they be able to follow it? Would they care? And how would they feel, upon getting to the end, to find very little resolution?
if you were making the point that these books are targeted towards weekly readers in the soap opera vein I could perhaps agree, but these are not standalone stories at all. They're an episode in a soap opera, their value comes from the plot points contained within, not the story in itself as a piece of art.
Hah, who knows. Rafa has been talking about this series since before it launched, so I guess that's what stuck with me.
rasberryjam
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Comic GAF, I need lovely super ladies in my life and I'm torn between the '04-'05 run of She-Hulk or the '12 run of Captain Marvel. Which one? Or maybe something else?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Dan Slott She-hulk never a bad decision
GrandHarrier
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I'd say She-Hulk. The last five issues of Captain Marvel are parts of two different crossovers, so its not a self contained run.
Gail Simone's initial Birds of Prey run is great stuff and worth reading. The first 11 issues of Gotham City Sirens were really good. The entirety of the 2010-2011 Zatanna series was a lot of fun.
rasberryjam
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She-Hulk it is! Thanks guys, I'll definitely look into those other recommendations, too.
Justice_dp
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Wow, Forever Evil 6.
That is one way of putting it
Whoever the true big bad is - it will not matter anyhow because he will only be used as setup for the next event or get crushed 2 pages after his splash page introduction. And after they completly destroyed Nightwing I want to nerd rage, but I don't believe this to be the end and the last month were so bad that it does not even matter anymore to me. Alexander Luther as Mazahs was nice, but there are too many moving parts that need to be adressed in the finale after the story did not move anywhere over the last 8 month
Let's sum up FE 6:
Not moving the plot forward in any meaningful way since issue 1?
Useless gore and violence?
Continue to job established characters?
Continue to pander pet characters of the writer?
One reveal was great but since the nice but how the hell could this happen? This is nearly as bad as Blackest Night.
Sir Garbageman
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My vote as well. Beautifully drawn fun comics.
slightconfuse
Banned
Ok who here is getting Starlight #1. Someone has to take the hit.
Spike Spiegel
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I was planning on checking out #1; the artwork is lovely and the Flash Gordon vibe is interesting to me.
This is the correct choice
Forever Evil 6 was great. I like
I've had no problems with Forever Evil's pacing, especially since I've been reading it with the Justice League Dark stuff. I've found it consistently entertaining. Blackest Night, First Lantern, Age of Ultron, Battle of the Atom....all those had real problems with pacing and I found myself losing interest. I don't get that at all with Forever Evil. Considering some of the stuff I mentioned, I think it's one of the better 'events' DC has done in a while.
the juxtaposition of seeing how 'villains' like Cold and Manta handle the 'bad guys'. And of course the reveals were fun.
I've had no problems with Forever Evil's pacing, especially since I've been reading it with the Justice League Dark stuff. I've found it consistently entertaining. Blackest Night, First Lantern, Age of Ultron, Battle of the Atom....all those had real problems with pacing and I found myself losing interest. I don't get that at all with Forever Evil. Considering some of the stuff I mentioned, I think it's one of the better 'events' DC has done in a while.
Ephemeris
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Forever Evil 6:
I know they technically "killed" Nightwing, but he doesn't feel dead. :/ Because of that, I'm a little let down by the issue. Supposed to find out what his fate is in 6, but it looks like I have to wait until 7. Also, didn't see Alex-shazam coming. Not in the least
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
If Frank Quitely couldn't convince me to pick up that Mark Millar's awful horseshit, then nobody can.
Book looks stunning though, aside from the words and inevitably awful story.
KoruptData
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After starting Planetary last night, I fell to the hype and bought Moon Knight today.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
WatXM - felt good. I miss the wacky Aaron angle, but I know some people thought that was too much. I can only hope it doesn't get event'd, but then theres always going to be whatever the fuck Marvel thinks its doing with Wolverine as of late. He should only exist in WatXM and Amazing X-Men because its clear nobody else can be arsed writing him properly, even Remender.
Magneto Speaking of regressive X-character development, I see Magneto is just killing random people now? I guess it was an alright comic, but have I missed some event in Uncanny that turned him from good guy into sociopath again? I did read the brief issue he was in unmasking Mystique's plans which he chose to... just not tell any other mutants about I guess? God the X-books are such a mess away from the Jean Grey school.
Magneto Speaking of regressive X-character development, I see Magneto is just killing random people now? I guess it was an alright comic, but have I missed some event in Uncanny that turned him from good guy into sociopath again? I did read the brief issue he was in unmasking Mystique's plans which he chose to... just not tell any other mutants about I guess? God the X-books are such a mess away from the Jean Grey school.
JetBlackPanda
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comic shop opens in 40 minutes! She Hulk, Moon Knight and Wolverine and the X-men will be mine!
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