Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Yeah, I mean, there's even an Argentinian dude mimicking Mexican culture from 90s movies "writing" Ghost Rider!
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Yeah, I mean, there's even an Argentinian dude mimicking Mexican culture from 90s movies "writing" Ghost Rider!
I should play more Arkham games someday. I really enjoyed Arkham Asylum. I played an hour or two of City but eh.
Hey hey, kd-z. You been reading any comics?
Hey hey, kd-z. You been reading any comics?
Shin Johnpv
Member
That is a damn good questions, same with Azrael. I would imagine both have to make some kind of appearance, even if its small like their ones in City.
my name is ed
Banned
Haha
you joke but I found out one of my comics friends sincerely believes white people should only write about their experiences. apparently, other cultures and subcultures are beyond the empathic abilities of white writers.
This person has a webcomic with a decently sized following. The comic is not about being a white girl in Texas.
Edit: whoops fixed some odd typos. Don't post from your phones people
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Uh oh. Someone should let Rucka know he's really not a woman.
I don't know, Zombine. Each trailer I've seen of MKX have steadily hyped me up, including new the characters I thought I wouldn't give a shit about playing. Now with the Predator on board, I'm sold.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I know it makes financial sense to wait but I pre ordered MKX. And if I like it I'll probably get the extra characters. Their marketing push so far has been winning me over. Im part of the problem!
Tyrant Rave
Banned
That looks really great, Messi. I'm sure you're thrilled to own it!
And on MKX since you guys are talking about it, I feel like I'm the only person who isn't getting it. Something about NRS games just feel off to me, they all feel super stiff. I love fighters and I've played everything from Melty Blood to games like Gundam Extreme VS, but I just can't deal with those games. I had a hard time even getting into Injustice when that came out. Glad they're supporting PS3 controllers/sticks on the PS4 version of MKX though, they deserve props for that.
On the one hand I get what she's saying, but on the other you nailed it: if you're gonna talk about lived experiences that aren't yours, you need empathy, and possibly getting people who know what it's like to tell you if you're full of shit, otherwise you're just bound to fuck up in incredibly stupid and insentive ways.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I feel bad for her, because that's a completely ass-backwards and sad way of writing. So do all of her comics solely contain white characters?
A Comics Creator Harassed Me On Twitter and I Dont Want to Say His Name
can I just say: fuck this industry for harboring creeps and sexist assholes?
fuck this industry for harboring creeps and sexist assholes
can I just say: fuck this industry for harboring creeps and sexist assholes?
fuck this industry for harboring creeps and sexist assholes
my name is ed
Banned
When writing about characters from different backgrounds than yours, you simply need to do the same thing when you're trying to write any character well. Empathy, some imagination and research (epecially about POC stereotypes in fiction). Maybe you get something wrong but I think never trying is a failure within itself. Can you imagine how long it would have taken us to get black superheroes if only black authors created them? Oh boy
No, actually! Her comic is set in fictional magical western Europe small town. She's had a couple black background characters. I haven't read all of it, so its possible they have a bigger presence in the comic than I am saying. When this was brought up to her, she said its different because its a make believe world. You make of that what you will. I certainly have my opinion.
We need to make a list of creep creators.
Brian Wood
Yale Stewart
Chris Sims (I think that would depend on how much value you place on his apology)
Erik Larsen
Spike Spiegel
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Devin Grayson
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Finally read that comic Ron Wimberly did about that one character's skin tone in Wolverine and the X-Men and damn, he did a killer job on that. Very well done. I've got a lot of respect for him for not changing the skin color. Good on him.
So, I got around to reading Longshot Saves the Marvel Universe last night. And it was really fun, glad I picked it up a while back. The Dr McNinja guy can definitely write. It's not perfect (in particular his Mr Fantastic and Iron Man felt a bit off/not quite right, though they weren't very important in the story), but it's really fun and legitimately funny a good bit of the time. And he really nailed the whole "luck powers" thing, which is cool since that can be a kind of weird thing to pull off. Not 100% sure about the recurring music thing, though. Kind of eh for me. Oh, and even if it was just a tiny little part of the "lets throw out a ton of random mashup things and have fun with it" stuff, there's something especially amazing to me about
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Definitely think I'll keep the Fear Itself: Deadpool trade in mind for the future now, since that's the other one I know he worked on for Marvel...
Kraven Phoenix
Definitely think I'll keep the Fear Itself: Deadpool trade in mind for the future now, since that's the other one I know he worked on for Marvel...
Scott Lobdell
John Byrne
I kinda sorta wanna put Claremont up there but he's just writing about his fetishes? I dunno
crimsonspider89
Banned
Yeah this boys club mentality needs to die. Not the 70s anymore.
ThyMusicMan
Member
Yeah I thought that was pretty interesting too.
Ehhh, while Claremont certainly has some...unique...topics he covers in his comics, I'm pretty sure he never harassed anyone liked the others you listed did.
Also, what did Brian Wood, Yale Stewart, and John Byrne do to earn them creeper status?
A wish she would have outed him so people could make a conscious choice to not buy his comics and stop putting money in his pocket.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Wood tried to use his position for sex at a con and when turned down threatened the female creator with blacklisting her.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I think Yale Stewart sent out dick pics to girls or something
my name is ed
Banned
Brian Wood is a dick
Yale Stewart has sent out unsolicited dick picks
I dont know about John Byrne, but the guy does not seem to have any friends in the industry.
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Builders, Alephs, Sidera Mhariasihaishs, and Mapmakers all look the same to me.
also, they say Mapmakers drain the old Earth of its resources etc, but how do they do this and what do they do with the resources and where do they hang out while their minions find the next earth to chew after incursion?
also, they say Mapmakers drain the old Earth of its resources etc, but how do they do this and what do they do with the resources and where do they hang out while their minions find the next earth to chew after incursion?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Lol Chris is not a creep. He said something dumb ten years ago to someone he considered a jerk. I can assure you he is not a creep to women.
I guess it would depend on how much value you put on the Internet over someone who's actually spent collectively months of time with him in person and seen him interact with people of all genders.
Up to you I guess. But a good rule of thumb is if Rich Johnston is pushing for something, it's probably wrong.
It's so sad that Ditko is insane, if the man was nicer we could have gotten more Spider-Man from him.
It's so sad that Ditko is insane, if the man was nicer we could have gotten more Spider-Man from him.
One of them is the Creep. The other is The Creeper.
What if we're all creeps and we don't even know it? What if Ben standing up for a creep makes him a creep? What if I'm a creep for calling Ben out for defending a creep who may or may not be a creep?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I find the less we know about the artists and creators the better off we are. Sure it's swell to have our actors, artists, musicians, writers, athletes be great people and produce great entertainment but I don't want to do full background checks on everyone before I decide if I like their work. Sure there are extreme cases but with Id rather not turn over every rock (especially with everyone's ever growing Internet footprint) and then devise some system of who I do and don't support. They're not my friends, they're not people I interact with on a daily basis and we really don't know them. If others want to do that fine but I'm sure everyone has some big regrets here or there.
my name is ed
Banned
haha true at the bolded
Alright, I believe you when you say he is not a creep. Harassment is not a one time thing though. By his own admission, he crossed a line. I don't think I've seen anything about how Val DOrazio was a jerk to him, so maybe we've given a limited account of it.
If the ComicsAlliance editors can make a case for him as a different guy, then I suppose we can accept it while acknowledging it happened although not all will be OK with that. Ten years is certainly long enough to change.
If you were to go back not even ten years ago in my college days, you would see some comics with mysogynist undertones. Not until I had dissassociated myself from some people and befriended some others who were active feminists did I see those undertones in my work and then worked to never repeat them.
Which kind of raises a question, is there a statue of limitations on stupid shit a creator has said or done in the past? And how do we weigh current actions/attitudes of the creators vs previous behavior? If Orson Scott Card decided to change his attitudes, would the majority of us who decided to not support his work be open to his future work? Honestly, I don't know if I would.
Serpentine
Banned
Read issues #1 to #11 of Black Science finally. Really good stuff and I'm looking forward to the next arc.
Also read the first Deadly Class TPB. Interesting, but I'll want to read more before I get too excited.
I started Harley Quinn. I'm only three issues in, so maybe I'm missing the brilliance so far.
I have Trees and Low lined up, along with Spider-Gwen.
Also read the first Deadly Class TPB. Interesting, but I'll want to read more before I get too excited.
I started Harley Quinn. I'm only three issues in, so maybe I'm missing the brilliance so far.
I have Trees and Low lined up, along with Spider-Gwen.
What if I am a creep for believing someone is a creep, who is being defended by a creep?
Lol just kidding Ben.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
That's about where I stopped with harley. I like the character but I guess I only enjoy her when she's written by Paul Dini. Other writers either take her too grim or into a female deadpool
Freezasaurus
Member
If you dig Spider-Gwen, be sure to check out Silk as well. Some of us like that one a bit more than Gwen.
Trees is one of those books where issue #1 didn't leave a single hook in me, so I just moved on. Low on the other hand establishes its voice from the first issue, and the 5 or so after it have done a great job at moving readers from point A to point B without it feeling tedious. You can tell that Remender mapped out this world very meticulously (unlike Saga), and each issue gives you a bit more information on why it's such a fucked up cesspool of water people.
Freezasaurus
Member
I actually like Trees, though Ellis did make some strange storytelling choices later on in the run. Decisions we're still waiting to see the aftermath of.
If you don't like Harley by issue 3 then it's likely not for you. Some people really don't like the book and that is ok. It can't really be for everyone. You have to enjoy that kind of slapstick comedy.
I am re-reading Bandette as I bought the physical hardcover. Just a beautiful, hilarious book. It's exactly the kind of thing I like.
my name is ed
Banned
Feel free to switch out creep for mysognist or jerk.
Also, where is that gif from?
I've never got the impression Harley Quinn was brilliant. Just fun and liked by many.
Black Science is great. I want an OHC of it. No clue if its coming but I hope so.
Freezasaurus
Member
Haha. A terrible old Angelina Jolie movie called Hackers. Well worth a watch for laughs.