ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So did Batgirl retconned TKJ?
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COMICS! |OT| March 2016. It's your job to be great.
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GrandHarrier
Member
Show us where the shared universes touched you.
Batgirl was paralyzed by the Joker but got better. So some form of TKJ happened.
No. Reread that page, because the layout on it is beautiful and crystal clear.
Concentric circles from the top are the implanted memories, concentric circles from the bottom are the real ones. They merge in the middle.
I always smile when this comes up. Which story is this? Need to read this.that All Star Superman thread remidned me of the real GOAT page
Personally I've read Avengers Standoff: Assault on Pleasant Hill, which wasn't bad. Nice first issue.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Issue #49 might say otherwise.
Really? Cuz Batgirl fans are celebrating right now on twitter saying they did it. Although Babs and Fletcher are being very cryptic as to whether it's official.
whatsinaname
Member
Rat Queens #6 - #10: I enjoyed this more than the first five issues. Better pacing and some nice insight into the main character's back stories.
Wayward #1 - #5: This was pretty good. Nice world building to begin with and no exposition dump (yet). Some nice artwork during the action sequences and good plot pacing. Only problem was, there were pages where the writing suddenly felt very amateurish. Mainly where the writer inserted some rather standard teenage insecurities for the main character
Wayward #1 - #5: This was pretty good. Nice world building to begin with and no exposition dump (yet). Some nice artwork during the action sequences and good plot pacing. Only problem was, there were pages where the writing suddenly felt very amateurish. Mainly where the writer inserted some rather standard teenage insecurities for the main character
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Batman Inc. Vol 2
I think they said the Apocalypse Wars events are self contained.
Like All New X-Men is dealing with Evan and stuff, while Extraordinary is dealing with En Sabah Nur.
This review is what kicked off the TKJ being removed from Batgirl's past - http://www.comicosity.com/review-batgirl-49/
whatsinaname
Member
I'm SO excited to read Superman: American Alien when it comes in collected format. Looking through the each issue's previews, all of them have incredible art despite all being from different artists. And then #5 is from Manapul who is one of my absolute favorite artists, and Jock is seemingly working on one (probably #6), which is just awesome.
Oh I didn't even see that.
BKatastrophe
Member
How could they pull that off without pissing everyone off? It'd just be cruel to do that at this point
Let the fans suffer. That or let's get rid of One More Day too.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
BKatastrophe
Member
I'm game
Hoooly shit I would pay twice as much money for that
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That's not gonna happen so long as Fletcher still has control of her.
Dinah got the whole goth thing on lock, so unless Ollie gets wayyy hipster it can't work out
Poodlestrike
Banned
so I GUESS Jim Lee just announced he's doing Suicide Squad with Rob Williams
apparently, it's a thing
that's one hell of an upgrade from Martian Manhunter
e: put a link in, it's confirmed
apparently, it's a thing
that's one hell of an upgrade from Martian Manhunter
e: put a link in, it's confirmed
Poodlestrike
Banned
I can dig it. Dude's done great work on MM.
TetraxShards
Member
How long until delays? I'll say five issues.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I don't think so but Fletcher has a very specific vision for his target demographic and rarely does that include revisiting old continuity.
Isn't the whole point of Rebirth to bring back some of the old continuity?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I miss the Clark/Lois marriage. At least I have my spinoff book now
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
There bringing back Birds of Prey but I think that's where it'll end in terms of bringing back old continuity for Black Canary. Rebirth looks like it's heavily focused on fixing Superman, Wonder Woman, Teen Titans, and Green Lantern. I don't know, maybe DC will pressure Fletcher to do it.
Freezasaurus
Member
That's what ended up happening to me. I like the character, but the book just couldn't hold my attention. It was pretty average overall. And Freeza ain't got time for average.
Ruh-roh. Wonder if it's something fans will take well or not.
A new Batgirl for the Trump era. Holy shit, though. People would be fucking furious if DC retconned Barbara being out of the wheelchair. Though I still think Oracle was a great character.
oh, so that thing Messi was refusing to believe actually turned out to be true. HMMMM.
My guess is that the entire point of Rebirth is to boost sales. :|
Poodlestrike
Banned
Po-ta-to, po-tah-to.
Nobody says potahto.
On Batgirl, I think they're probably going to undo Killing Joke for good. It wasn't supposed to be canon in the first place, and it really doesn't at all fit with where the character is. They might go through some vents that leads to Barbra resuming her role as Oracle, but I doubt she'll be wheelchair bound.
Freezasaurus
Member
Even for a Batman story, Killing Joke was surprisingly dark. I know they would never go through with a story like that today where a lot of people are extremely sensitive about a lot of things.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I hate to say it but Oracle is just a name now at this point. What the character meant a long time ago is gone.
Freezasaurus
Member
She still exists in the Arkham game universe!
Honestly, in the comic, Frankie seems to be taking over that role.
TetraxShards
Member
The discussion when the animated movie releases is going to be....really something.
Freezasaurus
Member
They're going to edit the shit out of that story.
TetraxShards
Member
They might, but it won't be cut to ribbons or anything. They released The Flashpoint Paradox and Gods & Monsters after all.
i mean to be fair it was printed on bleeding cool
Freezasaurus
Member
I know, but it doesn't mean everything posted there is blatantly false. Johnston is just too quick to post some things without confirmation in the hopes that it's true in order to have broken a story first.
Poodlestrike
Banned
So, here's a thought, what if they finally give Barbra a Nightwing-style upgrade? Have her move past being Batgirl, but not past being a costumed hero.
Freezasaurus
Member
I would start reading her book again.
KoruptData
Member
Batgirl, Batwoman. Just copped a name. No bat broke through their window, didn't fall into a cave full of bats.
Freezasaurus
Member
They just added onto the existing brand. They aren't the same as the mentally unhealthy guy who patterns himself after bats.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I miss oracle babs. But that character and personality is long long gone. I think she was way more interesting and had a much more powerful message but the current regime and fans disagree. At least I have my pre 52 comics!
To play devil's advocate, you're assuming that Fletcher is writing Birds of Prey. They could also keep the focus on solo Dinah in Birds and then bring back her and Ollie's relationship in the Green Arrow comic. They can have them back together without it being the focal point of both books.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
A lot of new fans think she's too good for Ollie.
