Supermanisdead
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I agree, Slott is the worst ever.
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COMICS! |OT| May 2013. Nothing says "love you Mom" like a thick Man-Thing... Omnibus.
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Agreed I cannot stand Slott's Spider-man.
To call the writing middling, would be an understatement.
People seem to love it though. I cannot fathom why.
Is this still on comixology? I remember seeing it as one of the recommended ones whenever you look at a similar comic but now I can't find it when I search for it by name or writer.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Word so I grabbed Journey Into Mystery #646, 647 and 649. My LCS didn't have any 648 in atm. So when I go out later I'll drive to the other side of town to grab 648. Finished off 646 and 647 and I'm really loving it. I like Immonen's writing on this, would be awesome to see Stuart draw an issue somewhere in the future. Definitely adding this to my list.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Not my problem you don't live in Coolsville USA.
Yeah, made-up/extrapolated science is fine but there's no excuse to use flat-out wrong information these days when you can do a quick search on the internet with the same device you use for typing your work. I haven't read that issue yet and I don't mind Slott, but imo it's not nitpicking to expect a modicum of research from writers.
Supermanisdead
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Finally read last week's ANXM and omg.... HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE. Best book from Marvel right now. Stepford Cuckoos I FUCKEN LOVE YOU CRAZY BITCHES. Bendis is a comics god.
It was good right up until Spider-Island. Then that shit fell off hard.
Supermanisdead
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#teamcuckoos
All day, every day. Morrison's greatest creations.
All day, every day. Morrison's greatest creations.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
That gave us the new Scarlet Spider, though, so it was worth it.
Angelus Errare
Banned
True
True.
I loved SI and if Slott had left the book there, it'd be perfect. But he just never reached that height again. :/
ViewtifulJC
Banned
ya'll still reading ANXM? I had to drop that after one too many shitty Wolverine scenes. I think I'm done with Bendis. Like, permanently.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Hell yeah. Immonen and Garcia on colors redefining superhero comics for a new generation.
From the lawn fights to the basketball courts, shit is pure comics.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I can't read books just because of good artwork anymore. I tried reading that new Millar book for Quitely, or that new Cornell Wolverine book for Alan Davis, both were drier than KFC.
It's just aint in me no more.
It's just aint in me no more.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I don't think it's just good artwork. I love the way he's working the First Five and Professor P is the character find of the decade.
Supermanisdead
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You ever want to see the Stepford Cuckoos lay into that manipulative bitch jean grey?
Between Aoa, ultimate and regular universe, is jean grey just the worst person ever? I'm starting to think the anti jean agenda is real?
Considering Bendis has written Wolverine like that for 7-8 years, I knew what I was getting. The rest has been pretty enjoyable. I'm hoping the plot progresses a bit faster going forward though. I'm ready for the book to move beyond the build up phase.
Angelus Errare
Banned
A cyclops fan who hates Jean? Man I've seen it all now. :3
Supermanisdead
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She sucked the life out of him for 40 years. Cyclops has been living it up since Planet X. God bless Magneto.
Emma Frost is my favorite X-man er woman.
So yeah I think I'd like that.
Never been a huge fan of Jean Grey.
Just like Gwen Stacy, she's one character who became more relevant after she died.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Emma > Jean. Emma deserves better from all aspects. She deserves to be better written, better drawn, a better significant other and a better uniform among other things.
Gwen > MJ
I seriously got tired of MJ years ago.
Supermanisdead
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Also, if you guys aren't reading Ultimate Xmen, you are fucking up big time. Wood is knocking out of the park. It's like Mean Girls meets Braveheart.
Hear hear!
Emma is a thousand times more entertaining a character than Jean ever was.
I think its maybe because I'm British, but I appreciate her dry wit.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I do too. Scott and Emma are a perfect match. The only relationship in comics I even vaguely care about.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I have to disagree on perfect. Scott always undermines her and cuts her short whenever he gets the chance, they've been together for lord knows how long but barely acknowledges that they're a couple. I think AvX pretty much sums up how I see Scott and Emma's relationship in picture form. He treats her like shit and she puts up with it...not sure why exactly. Love I guess.
Jean on the other hand? Man Scott would suck beast off if it mean saving or helping Jean.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm just waiting for Wood/Coipel X-Men. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that damn thing
Agreed. She was set up as this amazing woman we should all desire. Then there was the rivalry. Now that she's gone,(and back), it's all so silly now. If she had even a hint of a tinge for Wolvie, Scotty should have done a standing lap drop, and let her get to stepping.
He seems so much more interesting these days. The dynamic between he and Emma...well...she's a good/bad person. They don't trust each other. But I guess they love each other, both in their own way.
Spike Spiegel
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All this hate for a character held back just as much, if not more, by her monocular love interest...
Supermanisdead
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Scott and Emma are both too strong for most writers to create a believable relationship. With shitty writers like Yost and Fraction, Scott just steamrolls her and she's often crying (Yost loves to write her as a sniveling weakling for some reason). In Second Coming, Fraction had Scott interrupt Emma with a curt "Emma shut up" and she weakly backed off and it made me sick. Bendis hasn't written them too well, but I enjoyed his Emma back when he was writing her in the Dark Reign era. But if you get a good writer, Ellis, Carey, Gillen etc. they are one of the best relationships in comics.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
Just read about the preview of Thanos' Infinity General team.
... Imagine If Richard Rider was one of them, and Thanos halved worldmind so that there'd a good side that goes to Sam, and a bad side that stays with Richie?
SO GODLIKE.
... Imagine If Richard Rider was one of them, and Thanos halved worldmind so that there'd a good side that goes to Sam, and a bad side that stays with Richie?
SO GODLIKE.
I'm setting my self up for disappointment.. eh.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Would have been a better character if she went with Wolverine. But that went against the Disney-esque happy couple that Marvel shoved down our collective throats. Their dependency on one another made me want to puke. Like what real world couple do you know acted like Scott and Jean? Shit was depressing to read.
They were like Cloak and Dagger if that couple was written by a 5 year old girl who's parents just explained to her how "magical" marriage is.
Honestly I don't even like Ellis' portrayal of them, Scott treats the one person who actually believes in him 100% like complete shit, he's also treating the one person who if ever scorned can and has no problems mindwiping him (pre Phoenix Force obviously). Scott's not really a good relationship type character.
Like I stated, Emma deserves better.
Scott was always full of guilt and afraid of Jean's judgement, but when Emma "liberated" him he went a notch too far. It's like he still isn't sure of what to do in the relationship department but in the opposite direction. It can be interesting when done right.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Scott should hook up with Shuri. Someone who will stand by him, but wouldn't hesitate to physically put him in his place should he step outta line.
Shit would be hilarious.
Scott - "Shuri...shut up"
*Shuri punches the shit outta Scott*
Shuri - "Scott I love you, but I'm not Emma, you will not sweep me aside like an ornament."
*Everyone looks away quietly*
*Shuri helps Scott up*
Shit would be hilarious.
Scott - "Shuri...shut up"
*Shuri punches the shit outta Scott*
Shuri - "Scott I love you, but I'm not Emma, you will not sweep me aside like an ornament."
*Everyone looks away quietly*
*Shuri helps Scott up*
They didn't want to see wolverine ruined like Scott. Red head takes the wild out of their billion dollar wild man? He's useless then.
I'm gonna stop all of y'all hating on Jean Grey right the fuck there, because you fuckers need to get SCHOOLED.
There aren't many X-Folk you know the full name of. Like, there's A Number of them you know because you're a fucking nerd, but mostly it's the big flashy pseudonyms. The Beasts and the Cyclops and the Magnetos and all that. Jean Grey is the exact opposite. Ask anyone about Marvel Girl and they'll tell you "Who the fuck is that, and also, why are you talking to me you gross dweeb?". There's a reason for that. And it's because Jean Grey is one of the most powerful, and therefore most relatable characters in the X-Men franchise, and that's because she's one of its most tragic figures.
Let's take it to the metaphor : she's able to read minds. She knows how people feel. Her whole fucking deal's all about empathy and compassion. All the misery, all the hate, all the fear, all the pain that her fellow X-Men go through, she feels it. And yet she soldiers on, being one of the most valuable assets of the team. And when she can't do it anymore, her love allows her to reach her full potential. In fact, thinking about the love triangle she has with Cyclops and Wolverine is bullshit, because a good writer will tell you that deep down inside, she loves them both.
Because the fact is, she loves everyone.
And that's fucking beautiful, so SHUT UP.
There aren't many X-Folk you know the full name of. Like, there's A Number of them you know because you're a fucking nerd, but mostly it's the big flashy pseudonyms. The Beasts and the Cyclops and the Magnetos and all that. Jean Grey is the exact opposite. Ask anyone about Marvel Girl and they'll tell you "Who the fuck is that, and also, why are you talking to me you gross dweeb?". There's a reason for that. And it's because Jean Grey is one of the most powerful, and therefore most relatable characters in the X-Men franchise, and that's because she's one of its most tragic figures.
Let's take it to the metaphor : she's able to read minds. She knows how people feel. Her whole fucking deal's all about empathy and compassion. All the misery, all the hate, all the fear, all the pain that her fellow X-Men go through, she feels it. And yet she soldiers on, being one of the most valuable assets of the team. And when she can't do it anymore, her love allows her to reach her full potential. In fact, thinking about the love triangle she has with Cyclops and Wolverine is bullshit, because a good writer will tell you that deep down inside, she loves them both.
Because the fact is, she loves everyone.
And that's fucking beautiful, so SHUT UP.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Did Great Pacific ever get good, the first issue was pretty blah?
BenjaminBirdie
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Tizoc
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Morrison wrote the character spectacularly in his X-Men run.
While this is true (and I like Jean), people know Jean Grey by name because that's how she was introduced in the 90s cartoon, and later the X-Men movies. It has nothing to do with how relatable she is. My guess is that she was Jean Grey in the cartoon because they hadn't dealt with the whole Pheonix thing yet, and she hadn't used the Marvel Girl name in a billion years.
Angelus Errare
Banned
While I'm sure you're quite serious, I burst out laughing. I just imagine someone typing this full of anger with Jean posters everywhere. :3
if this was on comixology it would be an instant purchase for $1, but i truly hate having to go through everyone's personal sites. Same with movie streaming and studios taking their content out of netflix so tehy can each do there horrible streaming themselves. I'll do it eventually today and fight my ipad to get the pdf to load in ibooks because Private Eye #1 was really good, but this is not something i'm willing to do for other books.
I'm sorry, that's a weird fucking way to spell "If you knew how you are loved, not one of you would raise a hand in rage again".
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I just wish it was in print, man.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
RIP Hitman
For a guy who hates superheroes, Ennis is pretty good at writing Superman
For a guy who hates superheroes, Ennis is pretty good at writing Superman
Morrison's X-men run was probably one of the best ever written.
He did so much with so many characters, Marvel pussied out and backpeddled half of it.
He did introduce one of the greatest X characters of the modern era though.
Fantomex!
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