Supermanisdead
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Iceman has been a punchline for literally 50 years. Biggest joke character in all of fiction.
They won't even let him come out of the closet.
They won't even let him come out of the closet.
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COMICS! |OT| November 2013. Truly, tofurkey is the offspring of some Black Science.
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Freezasaurus
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I've been enjoying it, though it's certainly not what I expected, considering there's so much focus on the X-Wing combat. But it's given me something of an appreciation for it, which I never enjoyed before. I do hope they get into something more traditional, though.
As for Wood's writing, I wouldn't say he isn't a compelling writer, he is. He just excels at things of the non-superhero nature. The new X-Men book for example, is a solid book. But his writing there doesn't compare IMO to the work he did on other books like Local, DMZ, or Northlanders. I think he works better on books that he can guide, like The Massive. Where there's no pre-existing franchise and a company telling him what he can and can't do with the book. That's an issue he runs into with X-Men and Star Wars, I'm sure.
La Maquinon
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His, um.. The Iceman solo mini from the early eighties was, uh, it was really good, actually.
.. I'll see myself out.
BuddyJoeHooker
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The only character that is a bigger joke than Iceman is Cyclops.
He gave Uncanny X-Force unto us. He gets an infinity+1 pass on all other works.
Supermanisdead
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Iceman's hall of fame:
Reforming himself out of Havok's piss
Former friend of Spiderman
ALMOST had the guts to admit he's gay back in the 90s
Was actually Emma Frost for some time
Popular with casuals who do nothing but argue about his "epic omega level skillz"
Reforming himself out of Havok's piss
Former friend of Spiderman
ALMOST had the guts to admit he's gay back in the 90s
Was actually Emma Frost for some time
Popular with casuals who do nothing but argue about his "epic omega level skillz"
Freezasaurus
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A pass? Remender doesn't need a pass. He's fucking REMENDER! He wrote Fear Agent! And Strange Girl!
I do not know what either of those things are, but I think I may look into them...
His Uncanny X-Force run is what got me into comics.
May the bastard that lent me the books rot in hell.
Dude.....you haven't read Remender's two best works? C'mon son.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
He also wrote Bulletstorm, which past all the dick jokes, has a surprisingly good narrative that fits in right with his Uncanny X-Force and Fear Agent stories, all about living with failure and seeking redemptions for the awful mistakes in our past.
I've never read either of them, either. Uncanny Avengers was the only Remender book I've ether read.
...I'll see myself out. :c
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
my man.
who among the original 5 hasnt almost come out to be gay? jean and scott?
Serpentine
Banned
It was so boring, I'm surprised I was able to finish it. Yet for some reason I picked up #2 (probably Cruz D'anda) but I actually liked it OK. But seriously, boring-ass #1.
Supermanisdead
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Anyone doubting Wood needs to read his fantastic run on Ultimate X-Men.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read, and I've read 90's comics and Saga
Top 5 Xmen (From someone who has read X-books here and there)
1. Rogue (How do you like them apples ElNarez?)
2. Wolverine (yeah, yeah, but he helped out Punisher in War Zone so he's a bro in my book, especially when written well)
3. Nightcrawler
4.Gambit
5. Emma Frost
What? Fear Agent is great (so far, currently reading through), his Cap run is up there with Bru's and he's writing a freakin' Winter Soldier mini. Not to mention Uncanny X-Force.
I'll admit Uncanny Avengers can be mediocre to bad though (some great character moments but the plot can be tiresome and there's stupid stuff like Scarlet Witch and Wonder Man having sex while going on about being mutant saviors...groan).
1. Rogue (How do you like them apples ElNarez?)
2. Wolverine (yeah, yeah, but he helped out Punisher in War Zone so he's a bro in my book, especially when written well)
3. Nightcrawler
4.Gambit
5. Emma Frost
What? Fear Agent is great (so far, currently reading through), his Cap run is up there with Bru's and he's writing a freakin' Winter Soldier mini. Not to mention Uncanny X-Force.
I'll admit Uncanny Avengers can be mediocre to bad though (some great character moments but the plot can be tiresome and there's stupid stuff like Scarlet Witch and Wonder Man having sex while going on about being mutant saviors...groan).
What's wrong with him not liking Saga? BKV's writing is very mixed with people, I can see why a lot people might stay away.
I really am liking the series myself though (but it needs to pick up again).
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
Am I doing it right?
You have excellent taste good sir. Buuuuuttt...
1.) Gambit
2.) Cyclops
3.) Storm
4.) Nightcrawler
5.) Emma Frost
Also Wood's Ulti X-Men was good. The ending felt really rushed though :\
GrandHarrier
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Saga has turned into Seinfeld at the booth in the diner, only all the time, and less interesting. It really needs to pick up.
Y: The Last Man had better pacing, imo.
Also, best X-men
1) Sentinel Mk II
2) Sentinel Mk V
3) Wild Sentinel
4) Nimrod
5) Master Mold
Y: The Last Man had better pacing, imo.
Also, best X-men
1) Sentinel Mk II
2) Sentinel Mk V
3) Wild Sentinel
4) Nimrod
5) Master Mold
Cpt.Underpants
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Top 5 X-Men
1. Wolverine
2. Nightcrawler
3. Kitty Pryde
4. Storm
5. Jubilee
1. Wolverine
2. Nightcrawler
3. Kitty Pryde
4. Storm
5. Jubilee
GrandHarrier
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GrandHarrier pls
Stop reading Catwoman and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say about Saga
First 6-8 issues were bombastic. The recent 6 or so have been less so. So sorry for the real talk.
And don't tease me bro. Don't make me think I could earn your acceptance by something so simple. </3 ;(
I haven't read Catwoman in like 6 issues. I just buy it because I find beauty in filth.
wouhouh
another Didio's great idea :
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?disp=img&pid=1383684514
can't wait. New New 52
another Didio's great idea :
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?disp=img&pid=1383684514
can't wait. New New 52
GrandHarrier
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I read 90s Marvel.
List reinstated.
And why you hating on Sentinels? I'm serious in my love for them. I have like 6 of the foot tall colossal Heroclix versions of the Mk IIs and Mk Vs and a Master Mold.
The only bad thing about TMNT's City Fall storyline is that it gave us such a bad-ass version of Leonardo that when they eventually take him back to normal it's not going to be as awesome to see him like that anymore. Dat
black bandana
Arg. You're right. They're just two of my favourite books right now so it's why they came to mind. I've also dug FF, Avengers Arena, Superior Spider-Man (and Team-Up and Foes), All-New X-Men (and through that have started reading Uncanny X-Men and regular X-Men too), I read a bunch of Indestructable Hulk and Deadpool's got really good recently too. Before all this I'd basically stuck to mostly things like Y: The Last Man, Sandman, Ex-Machina, Fables, The Unwritten and so on, so it's really helped me get back into 'capes'.
The one thing I didn't like about City Fall so far is that
Dark Leo came about through brainwashing. I was expecting a straight up face heel turn, and what I got just felt like a bit of a copout.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
This just arrived in the mail today. It's freakin' HUGE!!!
1) wtf is up with Superman 1mil's hair in that image?
2) even though I have all the issues and I think that onmnibuses are the worst thing to happen to comics since Lobdell, I still want this.
3) get ready for the greatest superhero story you'll ever read. Seriously, I was explaining to my wife (again) what happens at the end of the story and I teared up. Teared up describing a stupid comic book! But it has the greatest ending ever.
Everyone that's reading it, post impressions. I want to live vicariously.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
crap, I want to get it but I also want to get the Frank Miller Daredevil one
Shin Johnpv
Member
Best X-Men list of the forever time
1. Jean Grey (seconding Phoenix/Claremont Era)
2. Colossus/Wolverine
3. Wolverine/Colossus (I can't decide here)
4. Forge (that's right Forge motherfuckers, come at me)
5. Kitty/Nightcrawler tie
1. Jean Grey (seconding Phoenix/Claremont Era)
2. Colossus/Wolverine
3. Wolverine/Colossus (I can't decide here)
4. Forge (that's right Forge motherfuckers, come at me)
5. Kitty/Nightcrawler tie
doniewhalberg
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what do I win if I do a list made up of Cable, X-Man, Bishop, Dark Beast and uh, Vulcan?
Supermanisdead
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omg an x-23 fan who also hates saga. i've found my nemesis.
comics gambit is still pretty awesome. the 90s x-men show is the best comic cartoon next to batman: tas.
Batman TAS gave us Harley and for that it will never be dethroned.
doniewhalberg
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Best X-men:
Wolverine.
Worst X-men:
Wolverine.
Seriously the guy is all over the place. Marvel don't know what to do with him. Bendis should be punched in the face every time he writes a Wolverine scene. Aaron's heart is in the right place (I like professor Logan) and he understands the character, but even him has been hit or miss. Wood's run on his main title is far from his best work IMO. How many times has Logan been without his healing factor? Why he is so insecure about it? That shit used to happen almost once a month a couple years back.
I still can't believe they made Logan remember his past and done absolutely nothing worthwhile with it. Fuck Daniel Way.
Wolverine.
Worst X-men:
Wolverine.
Seriously the guy is all over the place. Marvel don't know what to do with him. Bendis should be punched in the face every time he writes a Wolverine scene. Aaron's heart is in the right place (I like professor Logan) and he understands the character, but even him has been hit or miss. Wood's run on his main title is far from his best work IMO. How many times has Logan been without his healing factor? Why he is so insecure about it? That shit used to happen almost once a month a couple years back.
I still can't believe they made Logan remember his past and done absolutely nothing worthwhile with it. Fuck Daniel Way.
Supermanisdead
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^ i agree. wolverine's healing factor never used to be this instant "re-form yourself from a drop of blood" bullshit. he used to get fucked up and have to take days to recover. then he became cheat-enabled and every writer turned him into the punching bag when the new villain had to show how awesome he was.
and even when his healing factor is gone, he gets stabbed in the stomach and conveniently a passing x-man will magically heal him 9____9 fucking wolverine
and even when his healing factor is gone, he gets stabbed in the stomach and conveniently a passing x-man will magically heal him 9____9 fucking wolverine
doniewhalberg
Member
I really can't wait to read it, the previews look so good. I've been trying to keep away from them since I know I'll be buying the series anyway, but I had a look at the year zero preview, looks awesome. The more I watch the show, the more I'm excited for the comic haha.
Just sat and read the first issue of DoTF, with the Arkham Origins soundtrack on in the background. Glorious.
Also, just wondered in to find my girlfriend reorganising our graphic novel collection in a nice order for the first time in ageees, and I thought I might share.I absolutely swear by these books and heartily recommend them all pretty much
We've pruned off about two shelves worth of stuff in the last few months so everything left is something at least one of us loves.Shelf 1
Shelf 2
Shelf 3
And the rest.
slightconfuse
Banned
Gambit is like bottom 5 x-men .
X-23 hate is cray
X-23 hate is cray
slightconfuse
Banned
Rich reads GAF confirmed
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/06/when-did-iceman-become-the-big-heterosexual-on-campus/
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/06/when-did-iceman-become-the-big-heterosexual-on-campus/
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