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[Freezasaurus]

Man fuck the Inhumans. Trash property all around. Marvel should just retcon them out of existence. Terrible garbage.

Oh man, such a racist post. Next you'll be calling them gene-trash.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Reading X-Factor really hammers home how poorly the done "mutie hate" in Lemire's UXM really is. I mean it seemed pretty bad at the time but now looking back it's almost comical.

Lemire's doing Extraordinary X-Men, and he's not really dealing with racial issues so much as interdimensional apocalypses. He was dealing with some of the race stuff at the beginning, but that was mostly just to establish the current status quo.

Oh man, such a racist post. Next you'll be calling them gene-trash.

Absolutely. Failed experiments. Abominations of the evolutionary chain.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Seriously though, my first Inhumans book a ways back was Young Inhumans. It's actually pretty good.

 

[Sandfox]

Lockjaw needs to get the Pet Avengers back together.

 

[jurgen]

Absolutely. Failed experiments. Abominations of the evolutionary chain.

They need to go back to the moon where they came from! Moving Attilan to Earth... Taking our jobs...

 

[BKatastrophe]

Seriously though, my first Inhumans book a ways back was Young Inhumans. It's actually pretty good.

What a mistake. Shit tier book. Like all of them.

 

[Sandfox]

They need to go back to the moon where they came from! Moving Attilan to Earth... Taking our jobs...

The wall will fix that.

 

[BKatastrophe]

They need to go back to the moon where they came from! Moving Attilan to Earth... Taking our jobs...

HERE HERE

 

[Tyrant Rave]

ah yes the inhumans, my favorite intellectual property that I always liked

big fan of them

this is good

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Hope that doesn't happen. They are right where they should be.

Space-Cloude-Guy, Annihilus and the Silver Surfer would be cool for a Guardians of the Galaxy movie.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Lemire's doing Extraordinary X-Men, and he's not really dealing with racial issues so much as interdimensional apocalypses. He was dealing with some of the race stuff at the beginning, but that was mostly just to establish the current status quo.


Absolutely. Failed experiments. Abominations of the evolutionary chain.

I meant EXM my bad. I'm still used to UXM being the main title.

And the first arc is all I read it was so bad.

 

[ElNarez]

this is good

I like the characters in the Inhuman family of intellectual properties, and their powers. I'm looking forward for their television show, which is going to be on the ABC network.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I meant EXM my bad. I'm still used to UXM being the main title.

And the first arc is all I read it was so bad.

First arc wasn't that bad. EXM is decent.

I like the characters in the Inhuman family of intellectual properties, and their powers. I'm looking forward for their television show, which is going to be on the ABC network.

Liar

 

[Brian Fellows]

First arc wasn't that bad. EXM is decent.

Whatever floats your boat. I hated everything about it.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Whatever floats your boat. I hated everything about it.

I'm not gonna lie here. It's not that strong of a book, and it has a shaky start, but it gets much better as it goes.

 

[Village]

Not exactly. They worked out some kind of deal. Like what they did with Sony for Spidey.

..Are ... are you serious?... When did this happen?


Can we... Can we get an FF deal.

I will trade half the xmen for DOOM

 

[GAMEPROFF]

..Are ... are you serious?... When did this happen?

Nothing we heard from yet. Most likely he talks about the Legion TV show but I dont think even that has to mean that something fundamently changed.

 

[echoshifting]

The Legion TV show is the only thing we know about. There is no movie deal for X-Men. I think that's probably decades away.

TV is a totally different beast since Kevin and Ike got divorced

 

[LordOfLore]

The Cloak & Dagger show was also pushed back it seems.

Btw, did Slott delete his twitter?

 

[Sandfox]

The Cloak & Dagger show was also pushed back it seems.

Btw, did Slott delete his twitter?

Slott tweeted that he was going to take a break from twitter.

 

[deleted]

No bother dude, if you have any other questions about the other books etc., just ask. I just happened to be on and we got talking about this stuff, but there's a whole bunch of folks in here that love the books and are super knowledgeable.

Also, I got this on hand beside me for reference material :L

Just saw your post - will absolutely do, but I have my money on some other books first

 

[UnluckyKate]

I don't read much comic book and I didn't want to make a new thread but I always dig the art of Alex Ross I mean look at this art this guy is a god.

Anyway, my local library has Kingdom Come, people recommanded it, it has a great name and dear god the art is amazing.

So VERY LTTP, I dig in.

HOLY SHIT this is good

 

[jurgen]

Not exactly. They worked out some kind of deal. Like what they did with Sony for Spidey.

Not at all. Marvel Comics is collaborating more with Fox on television efforts now because they're slightly at odds with Marvel Studios (due to Perlmutter losing authority over Feige in a pissing match). It's more of an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" type of deal. Spidey was worked out between Sony and Disney.

Marvel Comics only has influence over television properties since the Feige split last year. They're playing ball with Fox and the X-men as a power play. They probably won't do much of anything to collaborate on a film though.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I don't read much comic book and I didn't want to make a new thread but I always dig the art of Alex Ross I mean look at this art this guy is a god.

Anyway, my local library has Kingdom Come, people recommanded it, it has a great name and dear god the art is amazing.

So VERY LTTP, I dig in.

HOLY SHIT this is good

Kingdom Come is one of my favorite stories ever. It's amazing.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Well it's a good thing that hasn't happened.

Even during the current run, the X-Men are feared by normal people because they are afraid of the M-Pox and we have mutants dealing with having contracted the disease.

Here's why that's ridiculous:

Mutants were hated and feared by normal people because they were fundamentally better, further down the evolutionary chain, they were walking billboards that told everyone else they would be replaced.

They were not things that could kill you if they fucking coughed on you.

I can understand if X-Men comics are still your thing, that's fine, read what you want, but don't play like they still represent the core conceit of the original property. That's just no longer objectively accurate.

 

[LordOfLore]

Which of the collections in the Deadpool CMX sale are worth it?

 

[Coriolanus]

I will trade half the xmen for DOOM

That gets your a choice of Hobo Doom or Goat Doom. Will have to do quite a bit better for 616.

 

[kmfdmpig]

I don't read much comic book and I didn't want to make a new thread but I always dig the art of Alex Ross I mean look at this art this guy is a god.

Anyway, my local library has Kingdom Come, people recommanded it, it has a great name and dear god the art is amazing.

So VERY LTTP, I dig in.

HOLY SHIT this is good

It's great. If you want to keep going with Alex Ross stuff then the single character books he did with Dini (Batman War on Crime, Wonder Woman Spirit of Truth, Superman Peace on Earth, Shazam Power of Hope) are all fairly good. Justice! was good as well.

On the Marvel side if you haven't read Marvels then that's quite good (although not quite as good as Kingdom Come to me).

 

[TetraxShards]

I don't read much comic book and I didn't want to make a new thread but I always dig the art of Alex Ross I mean look at this art this guy is a god.

Anyway, my local library has Kingdom Come, people recommanded it, it has a great name and dear god the art is amazing.

So VERY LTTP, I dig in.

HOLY SHIT this is good

"According to the word of God, the meek would someday inherit the earth. Someday. But God never accounted for the mighty."

 

[Mindwipe]

Finished The Fuse volume 3 today. It was legit excellent.

 

[Lashley]

https://twitter.com/marvel/status/798318228116217856

Inhumans TV show

 

[Brian Fellows]

Finished The Fuse volume 3 today. It was legit excellent.

Cool.

It's next in line for a shot next Image sale.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

omg

doom patrol 3

historic

 

[LordOfLore]

Donnie will probably want this.

Speaking of Alex Ross covers, this is out today:

Simone is out of control. The fact both Lego and TT love her and invite her to events and demos is funny.

Small Inhumans CMX sale.

 

[Sandfox]

Here's why that's ridiculous:

Mutants were hated and feared by normal people because they were fundamentally better, further down the evolutionary chain, they were walking billboards that told everyone else they would be replaced.

They were not things that could kill you if they fucking coughed on you.

I can understand if X-Men comics are still your thing, that's fine, read what you want, but don't play like they still represent the core conceit of the original property. That's just no longer objectively accurate.

We were discussing whether they were still relevant as a stand in for minority groups and they obviously are so I don't get this response.

You're basically arguing that they aren't relevant because the writers have been going at it differently compared to the older stories. This isn't even the first time they've gone the disease route.

 

[Vyer]

Wait, I haven't read in a while.... the current X-Men stuff has people scared of them because they have a virus?

 

[Sandfox]

Wait, I haven't read in a while.... the current X-Men stuff has people scared of them because they have a virus?

Yeah, and it's pretty played out at this point. Thankfully they're ditching that idea for the classic approach.

 

[Vyer]

Yeah, and it's pretty played out at this point. Thankfully they're ditching that idea for the classic approach.

Well...then that's pretty terrible as a stand in for minority groups. I'd have to say Birdie has a point there.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

We were discussing whether they were still relevant as a stand in for minority groups and they obviously are so I don't get this response.

You're basically arguing that they aren't relevant because the writers have been going at it differently compared to the older stories. This isn't even the first time they've gone the disease route.

How does the Terrigen Mist story create a relevant stand in for changing demographics and an evolving society? It's literally a direct opposite of that. It's staunching the progress of a demographic (mutants) and forcing a reversal of evolution (fewer mutants).

Is your POV that it's fine because now Inhumans are taking the place of Mutants in this metaphor?

 

[choaffable]

We were discussing whether they were still relevant as a stand in for minority groups and they obviously are so I don't get this response.

The frustrating thing is that the X-men as minority struggle metaphor hasn't changed since the 80s. Since then, civil rights and minority issues have changed and mutated (*high-five*) so much. At a time of #blacklivesmatters, Hamilton, issues of representation in media and the smearing of immigrants around the world, why bother with an analogy? There are real world minorities being feared and hated right now. Explore that, bring those issues in. Stay relevant.

I wish Marvel would throw the X-men franchise to a writer like David F Walker or Gene Luen Yang, people who have written about racial tensions and immigrant experiences. If the X-men want to remain a potent metaphor, it needs to start representing minority struggles and anxieties on the page. Otherwise, burn it all down and stick with the boring ass Inhumans.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

The frustrating thing is that the X-men as minority struggle metaphor hasn't changed since the 80s. Since then, civil rights and minority issues have changed and mutated (*high-five*) so much. At a time of #blacklivesmatters, Hamilton, issues of representation in media and the smearing of immigrants around the world, why bother with an analogy? There are real world minorities being feared and hated right now. Explore that, bring those issues in. Stay relevant.

I wish Marvel would throw the X-men franchise to a writer like David F Walker or Gene Luen Yang, people who have written about racial tensions and immigrant experiences. If the X-men want to remain a potent metaphor, it needs to start representing minority struggles and anxieties on the page. Otherwise, burn it all down and stick with the boring ass Inhumans.

Can't argue with this. Give it to Coates.

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Donnie will probably want this.

Haha this looks like fun! I really like that cover.

 

[TheFlow]

Can't argue with this. Give it to Coates.

Coates really could write a decent x-men.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Coates really could write a decent x-men.

I feel like it would come out having too much political commentary embedded in it for an X-men book.

 

[TheFlow]

I feel like it would come out having too much political commentary embedded in it for an X-men book.

doubt it.

 

[Freezasaurus]

doubt it.

I don't. Not after how politically heavy BP is.

 

[Sandfox]

Well...then that's pretty terrible as a stand in for minority groups. I'd have to say Birdie has a point there.

Well I'm not saying it's good, just that it exists lol. M-Pox is basically Legacy Virus 2.0 and is being used

How does the Terrigen Mist story create a relevant stand in for changing demographics and an evolving society? It's literally a direct opposite of that. It's staunching the progress of a demographic (mutants) and forcing a reversal of evolution (fewer mutants).

Is your POV that it's fine because now Inhumans are taking the place of Mutants in this metaphor?

The Terrigen Mist is trying to juggle the extinction storyline and fear/hate thing at same time, but isn't working. As long as the mutants are hated by normal people and are working to improve that I will see them as a relevant stand in for minorities to some degree, which was the point behind my original post.The issue now is that the X-Men have been facing extinction for far too long and there are better issues they could focusing on from the past year or so.

The frustrating thing is that the X-men as minority struggle metaphor hasn't changed since the 80s. Since then, civil rights and minority issues have changed and mutated (*high-five*) so much. At a time of #blacklivesmatters, Hamilton, issues of representation in media and the smearing of immigrants around the world, why bother with an analogy? There are real world minorities being feared and hated right now. Explore that, bring those issues in. Stay relevant.

I wish Marvel would throw the X-men franchise to a writer like David F Walker or Gene Luen Yang, people who have written about racial tensions and immigrant experiences. If the X-men want to remain a potent metaphor, it needs to start representing minority struggles and anxieties on the page. Otherwise, burn it all down and stick with the boring ass Inhumans.

I was just going to post that I wanted to X-Men to focus more on social issues and Walker is a guy I have wanted to see on an X-book.

 

[Rhaknar]

oh lol The Inhumans will be a abc show >_>

guess the movie really is dead

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I feel like it would come out having too much political commentary embedded in it for an X-men book.

I think X-Men is at its best when it's reflecting the politics of the day.

 

[Sandfox]

oh lol The Inhumans will be a abc show >_>

guess the movie really is dead

I can't wait for Lockjaw: