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Have you read stray bullets along with the sequels?
No then get to it.
Yes? Then stop you have now read the greatest crime/noir book in the game.
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COMICS! |OT| October 2016. Capes, Crime, Bondage, and sometimes Overwatch.
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Have you read stray bullets along with the sequels?
No then get to it.
Yes? Then stop you have now read the greatest crime/noir book in the game.
RepairmanJack
Member
Eh, I think you're applying the problems to a character but the story as a whole just had nothing to do. It was entirely pointless. No one in the book had anything to do. They had to make up an entire hurricane that did nothing just to get Orphan and Spoiler in a cave with people just to give them something to do, and Clayface something to do by evacuating people. Duke is just in it to get yelled at then disappears. Gotham Girl just gets turned into a monster then disappears. Kate and Batman spend the entire story on motorcycles that do everything.
This whole story to me just felt like nothing. It felt like filler to give the teams a break from the bi-weekly schedule before their next arcs.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Don't know how I forgot but the Parker adaptations by Darwyn Cooke too, for crime noir.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Yea it landed at the bottom of.last page but I mentioned Criminal & Gotham Central as well as some others
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
Just did some reading, how in the world can we get Waid and Samnee to take over Amazing Spider-Man. I NEED IT.
good man
still salty they didn't collect the original run in a HC format.
been telling everyone your transformers guide needs to be in the next ot
Tizoc
Member
Mignolaverse or at least hellboy is next
I beleive Donnie has you beat to that. There are fanboys and then are Fanatics. Donnie is the latter.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
That sounds like a good plan dude. Mignolaversity on multiversity comics is really helpful if you need quick reference stuff, the hellnotes articles are great, as well as their reading order.
Lol I'd be happy to see what Tiz cooks up though, his transformers thread is great. I wouldn't mind doing or helping out with a larger mignola verse thing at some point though.
Plus I sound fanatical while I'm doing this reread. The Hellboy universe is my favourite thing in comics but ill speak of it less once I'm done, I know the majority of folks aren't that fussed here in the thread. I've got some sweet stuff stacked up to read and probably write about when I'm done, namely harrow county and the turtles books.
I try not to hold that against them. Isn't it basically a small miracle that the book got collected at all? I've read that Stray Bullets is DIY to the core.
Edit: ComicGAF LOVES Mignolaverse. We've just all experienced it over different months over the years.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha I meant more my rambling & reviews as part of #hellboctober XD I know there some big fans in here though, I've read a bunch of great insightful stuff and seen alot of Birdies teasing spoiler tags. How I want to click...
LordOfLore
Banned
WW 75th anniversary sale on CMX!
Edit: And Incal.
Edit: And Incal.
so this Transformers shit is pretty fucking good. I assume that last year's humble bundle coverede the stuff before this Robots in Disguise / More than Meets the Eyes stuff? Kinda kicking myself for not getting it now
Poodlestrike
Banned
Keeping in mind that I have no actual position of my own re: post Secret Wars Marvel (just trying to explain the other argument), half-boot measures in general like the N52 are sort of the worst of both worlds. They get rid of heaping piles of continuity that long-time readers cherish, and they don't REALLY set anything back to the beginning, so new readers still feel locked out.
No, to be honest most of it is included here except for Dark Cybertron.
The one before that in 2014 was the earlier books.
well they keep mentioning stuff that happened in previous volumes so thats why im wondering
echoshifting
Banned
Ah, I gotcha. Mistook your meaning.
Tizoc
Member
Comixology unlimited appears to have the majority of the post 2012 idw comics for 'free' as part of that service :x
BKatastrophe
Member
That all feeds into my point though: it's a Batman storyline, not a crossover storyline. There's some development with Gotham Girl and Duke gets a good amount of page (almost typed "screen") time by being Bats' go to, but they mostly are just there to get yelled at and messed up. Everyone else (Detective Comics and Nightwing) is just there to help Batman further his book's storyline. This effectively means that there was no reason for anyone who wasn't reading Batman (me) to read it.
LordOfLore
Banned
Reminds me of Standoff in a way. If you weren't reading Captain America books you had no real reason to read the event unless you were excited for Thunderbolts. NotMM doesn't even have a book spinning out of it.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Does NotMM not set up
the "monster town" district and the impetus for Batwoman's solo?
I read that in solicits and I know some folks don't read em so I'll keep that tagged haha
Yes it does.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Did you go after any of those crime books? I must confess I've never read Stray Bullets, although everyone seems to love it around here. I think the only time I looked at a Lapham book was the strain adaptations. Must put it on the list.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Holy moly, Rise of the Black Flame should NOT be this good. Leave it to the Mignolaverse...
Donniewahlberg
Banned
haha there it is *gnaws nails* you hyped for the visitor man?
RepairmanJack
Member
Yeah, I just feel it wasn't even necessary for Batman readers to read it because it gave us nothing. We already knew Bane was the next step and behind it all. This was just needless filler to tie up a loose end that really meant nothing because he was just a red herring middle man.
It was just a dumb story that felt like filler that no one needed to read.
LordOfLore
Banned
It's launching after the next 'Tec arc IIRC.
how far along are you?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
just read More Than Meets the Eye Volume 1 (so Death of Optimus Prime + MTMTE #1-3) and im reading Robots in Disguise Volume 1 now (read issues #1-4).
was trying to look at a reading order tho and according to this, some of the stuff on the humble bundle is before all this so ive already fucked up. Infiltration and Devastation are before, and I dont even know where Combiner Wars fits in, its not on the list. I think its after all this tho since it seems tied to Windblade.
edit: Infiltration is apparently on Earth too, so thats a change
BKatastrophe
Member
That's not totally true. Most of the books had major story events occurring as part of it. Howling Commandos, for example, had the Standoff issue as its final issue. But you're on point in saying that only Captain America was essential event reading.
That's true. I had forgotten about that, but that set-up is mostly occurring through Detective Comics' next arc. And if there weren't solicits for it, I would have no idea.
While Infiltration and Devastation are set before, I think you've started reading at the right place. Go back to them for background later. There's too much stuff in the middle not included that it will add greatly to your understanding of MTMTE or RID anyway. And a lot of that stuff wasn't great.
Combiner Wars is effectively volume 7.5 of RID. Windblade is set during Volume 6 of RID. Windblade Distant Stars is set during volume 9 of RID IIRC.
(Note that RID got renamed to just "Transformers" from volume 8. Don't worry about it, it was a trademark thing).
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Hahah, oh yeaaa. Although, on a general note, I always find it weird when they do trailers for comics, just using the sequential art. So strange. I like it more when they do a special page length teaser, like some of Bru's books have had and so on. Still, super exciting.
Haha okay, that's cool. I'm going to buy all that shiz when it comes out in trade anyway so I'm gonna be right on there (4-6 months late).
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I don't have MU at the moment and honestly, I just don't see myself going back to this. I gave it five full issues to grab me so it's not like I read one and quit. I probably gave it more chances than I do for most books.
Yep, near the beginning of Hell on Earth-- I'm way behind there.
I bought regular Hellboy and BPRD from Plague of Frogs through 1948 physically, along with a handful of trades. After that I just went digital. Figured for Hellboy in Hell I'd want to wait for the inevitable Library Edition and it was a short run so I just read it monthly near the end. BPRD, I just didn't want to deal with all of the trades plus it went on sale so it was a lot cheaper digitally. If they do big hardcovers I might double dip though. The ones they put out are probably the nicest hardcovers I own.
My collection of Mignola books is starting to dwarf my other comics as it is LOL. I think the only series that compare are like, Doom Patrol, Batman, and Spider-Man.
Tizoc
Member
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I think I know the answer to this, I went back through some of the summer threads and even at the time only Echo ever mentioned (and I believe he dropped it), but no one is reading Dept. H by Kindt? I'm kind of interested in that.
RepairmanJack
Member
Reading Gwenpool? It's surprisingly really good.
echoshifting
Banned
Yeah I only made it two issues into that one. The art really did not work for me. Kindt makes a valiant effort to combine a number of disparate genres but they don't come together successfully.
I kinda think it might be up your alley though? So maybe don't listen to me, ha ha. It's fairly ambitious and I know you like Dark Horse books. If you can get the first issue for a couple of bucks it might be worth trying, but I can't give a thumbs up on the trade, which is how I believe you prefer to read your books.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Batgirl by Bryan Q. Miller seems like a perfect choice if you haven't read it already
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Squirrel Girl might possibly be too funny, but that and Howard The Duck are masterpieces.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Awesome. They're definitely going to do a library edition for In Hell, and Omnibus of the Hell On Earth stuff, & Abe Sapien: Dark & The Terrible, but sadly not the library sized editions like Hellboy. I just have the 4 Plague of Frogs Omnibus & then regular trades for all the rest but I'm starting to consider buying the library editions of HB too. I don't even like huge books usually but just...because haha.
Yea, I think the only thing I have that really compare sis my Batman stuff but it's obviously not as consistent/one run. I may provide some shelfporn of my Mig shelf soon haha, it'll probably be the last time I can take a picture of them all decently close up in one shot.
Yea that's right man, it would be the trade in Jan. Also, it's kinda expensive, DH do not sell their HCs cheap and Kindt has some sort of thing, Mind MGMT only got put out in HC too. His art is definitely interesting and not entirely appealing off the bat, but I grew to love Lemire's art so I don't know. I REALLY like the colours in the previews, they seem to add a lot to his stuff on this project ( I think it's his wife), much more visually appealing. Nah, I'll definitely take that onboard man, I value your opinion. At least if I get it and don't like i, you can tell me I told you so ha! Yea I do seem to like Dark Horse a good bit..it's not conscious as well. I really do just try and follow writers I like, regardless of publisher, but they seem to give stuff a shot that interests me, books with a weird/horror bent to them. LIKE HOUSE OF PENANCE. I can't wait for that.
Freezasaurus
Member
#NothingButTrash
echoshifting
Banned
-Doctor Strange often employs a dry, dark humor that I love. Some issues are grim so it is a mixed bag for humor.
-Sounds like Great Lakes Avengers might be worth trying. I haven't gotten to it yet my daughter RAVED about it.
-Gwenpool Gwenpool Gwenpool
-Mockingbird, though it is on its last legs
-Believe it or not, New Avengers is often funny and tonally similar to New Super-Man
-Power Man and Iron Fist
-Silver Surfer
-The tie-in issues of Spider-Man have been an emotional rollercoaster but in general the book can be very funny
-Spider-Woman
-I'm sure you already have an opinion on Squirrel Girl
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Weapon X
hahaaa
I really don't like the teasing the book characters/property first and not the talent first. Get folk hyped on the team first Marvel!
- Charles Soule, Ray Fawkes. weekly.
I really don't like the teasing the book characters/property first and not the talent first. Get folk hyped on the team first Marvel!
Freezasaurus
Member
Marvel has to get people anticipating the big announcement so they can drop the Greg Land bombshell.