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COMICS |OT| September 2016. Comics Should Be Good.
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Freezasaurus
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Possible. She just started showing up in Bombshells.
I'm not really a fan of those charts anyways, but people are basically drawing the wrong conclusion from them due to Rebirth and the double shipping stuff pushing other things down.
Freezasaurus
Member
I'm still reading it. It's not bad as Marvel events go.
CW2 is clearly a weak selling event now riddled with delays. IMO too many books tied into the event, but it did provide a little boost so eh.
I'm curious to see what Marvel does by next Summer-Fall.
And yet in 2 years Marvel will give Bendis ANOTHER EVENT.
Freezasaurus
Member
Ha ha. You think it'll take them that long? That's a bunch of Fiddle-Faddle.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I'd love it if this would be the quote they use on the trade paper back
TropicalFish
Member
Omg really? Lemme start catching up asap.
Bombshells is a fantastic book.
Sheriff of Babylon.
I've only read Omega Men, but it was just incredible. I'm waiting for an absolute edition now.
Hoping for a OHC for Vision, too. If I don't see one solicited within the end of the year or so I'll probably buy the trades.
Freezasaurus
Member
Vision
Sheriff of Babylon
Omega Men
In that order.
Civil War II - It's not complete dog shit.
Yeah, her design is pretty solid. And it seems she'll be getting a statue too.
Doom Patrol makes no goddamn sense, but Terry None is super appealing so there's that. The DCU Rebirth issue makes the various Rebirth reboots make a hell of a lot more sense. I mean, I'm not wholly lost anymore so that's a plus. Why is this Shade comic looking so appealing?
I want Prez back. How is it not a hit with this political climate?
I want Prez back. How is it not a hit with this political climate?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Grayson
BKatastrophe
Member
I changed it just in case. You have a fair point.
New cartoon?
I can't think of anyone who was truly excited for it. Everyone was pretty tepid on it all around, myself included. That said, I'm actually enjoying it quite a bit.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Grayson
Poodlestrike
Banned
Tough one.
I think I'd have to go with Omega Men, simply for making best use of the medium. It's damn close though.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
List!
CHEW #58
I HATE FAIRYLAND #9
MANIFEST DESTINY #23
RUMBLE #14
SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1
WICKED & DIVINE 1831
BRITANNIA #1
CHEW #58
I HATE FAIRYLAND #9
MANIFEST DESTINY #23
RUMBLE #14
SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1
WICKED & DIVINE 1831
BRITANNIA #1
Serpentine
Banned
despite having reservations about this year's Long Beach Comic-Con for featuring Greg Land, Brett Booth, and Nick Spencer
as some of the top special guests, and the sloppy handling of ticket pickups, I had a good time. Found some cool dollar bin books that have Gambit and Cable in them, a Prez one-shot from the 90s by Ed Brubaker (?!) and also this Dazzler issue with a super cool Bill Sienkiewicz cover
also got some sketches, like these by Gabriel Hardman and Joe Eisma
I talked to Hardman as he drew, cool dude (everyone was, actually!). speaking of cool artists, I learned the Joelle Jones/Mariko Tamaki Supergirl mini is 48 pages an issue, prestige format. apparently she's been working on this for a while. I think it's gonna be dope, though.
among some others
also got some sketches, like these by Gabriel Hardman and Joe Eisma
I talked to Hardman as he drew, cool dude (everyone was, actually!). speaking of cool artists, I learned the Joelle Jones/Mariko Tamaki Supergirl mini is 48 pages an issue, prestige format. apparently she's been working on this for a while. I think it's gonna be dope, though.
LordOfLore
Banned
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@UXM: Thanks, picked up a issue I missed. Did they ever collect the Eva Bell annuals?
Matt Wilson did a "small" thing before bed with some new brushes:
BKatastrophe
Member
So after I got done re-reading Bendis' UXM, I was thinking about Dark Beast's role in the story. When I read it for the very first time, I thought that it was incredibly stupid. I mean, he was sitting inside the wall of a helicarrier coughing, hacking, and giggling trying to kill the X-Men. Then he dies from a sickness that's never explained in either origin or how he contracted it, simply saying that he did it because he hates Scott Summers. Then, after reading it the second time, it didn't seem all that stupid, but I still had my same issues: it comes out of nowhere, death by completely mysterious disease, and it feels rather anti-climactic in its ending.
But then I thought about it, and it's actually really interesting. See, Dark Beast is an alternate dimension mirror version of Beast, so it would make sense that, to a degree, they are powered by similar motivations: they desire scientific advancement for their respective mutant factions. With Beast, it's mutantkind in general, as that's what the X-Men do. With Dark Beast, it's specifically the Apocalypse agenda. But in this case, Dark Beast is specifically targeting Scott Summers. No longer about advancing the Apocalypse agenda or doing some nasty science experiments; it's all about outright murder.
Now everyone already knows this. It's nothing new. So why bother bringing it up? What makes it interesting? Because it's an exact reflection of Beast's ongoing arc at the same time: his overwhelming hatred for Scott Summers. Over the course of both All-New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, Beast has constantly blamed Scott for everything. It's why he broke all space and time ethics to bring the O5 to the present, after all. But it really comes around in UXM #600. As everyone is confronting Beast for his intervention, he frequently deflects by saying that his experimentations would take forever to explain to everyone else, if they could be explained at all. That it's not worth it, something that Dark Beast mirrors as well by simply hiding and making deadly weapons. Not bothering to explain what he was really doing.
Continuing on that line, as his friends are continuing to point out what he's done and why he needs to stop, ol' Hank McCoy continuously deflects in another manner: by pointing out what Scott's done. And everyone responds in kind by pointing this out. How he constantly points out Scott and everything he's doing. Blaming him for everything. Granted, Hank's anti-Scott stance has been around since the days of Second Coming where he decided that, instead of grieving over Nightcrawler's death with everyone else, that he should instead use it to grandstand against Scott. Asshole, but that's beyond the point. See, this is truly where it comes into play: Dark Beast dies severely sick, with no explanation as to how he got this way. All he can say is how much he hates Scott Summers, and it makes sense. The X-Men have been an enemy of his for years, foiling him at every turn, and Scott has always been a major leader and figurehead in some form or another. But why focus on Scott's little movement? Why not pull a Cassandra Nova and full on bomb the main mutant refuge that is Krakoa? I mean, he's practically pulling her MO already with Sentinels both big and small.
It's because he specifically targeting Scott. Much like ol' 616 Hank, he has come to hate Scott Summers that it's his big motivation. He's had Scott as the big focus in his mind like a laser. Dark Beast is a vision of what his future could be: he hates Scott so damn much that he gets physically sick from it and with his dying breaths, he viciously attacks Scott with everything he can. It's a future vision of what Hank could become if he keeps going down this road, and to be honest he shows no signs of backing out. Look what happens at the end of the run: he hates Scott so much that even when quite possible one of the best things that mutants have accomplished in a long time is engineered by Scott (and Alex), he absolutely hates him for it. That Scott could dare get away with doing such a good thing. That Hank could begin to hate Scott so much that he becomes deathly ill isn't out of the realm of possibility. Coupled with his continued scientific experimentations, it's not really out of the realm of possibility that Dark Beast is certainly in his future.
A bit lengthy, but it's something I thought of and I wanted to throw it out there.
Also:
But then I thought about it, and it's actually really interesting. See, Dark Beast is an alternate dimension mirror version of Beast, so it would make sense that, to a degree, they are powered by similar motivations: they desire scientific advancement for their respective mutant factions. With Beast, it's mutantkind in general, as that's what the X-Men do. With Dark Beast, it's specifically the Apocalypse agenda. But in this case, Dark Beast is specifically targeting Scott Summers. No longer about advancing the Apocalypse agenda or doing some nasty science experiments; it's all about outright murder.
Now everyone already knows this. It's nothing new. So why bother bringing it up? What makes it interesting? Because it's an exact reflection of Beast's ongoing arc at the same time: his overwhelming hatred for Scott Summers. Over the course of both All-New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, Beast has constantly blamed Scott for everything. It's why he broke all space and time ethics to bring the O5 to the present, after all. But it really comes around in UXM #600. As everyone is confronting Beast for his intervention, he frequently deflects by saying that his experimentations would take forever to explain to everyone else, if they could be explained at all. That it's not worth it, something that Dark Beast mirrors as well by simply hiding and making deadly weapons. Not bothering to explain what he was really doing.
Continuing on that line, as his friends are continuing to point out what he's done and why he needs to stop, ol' Hank McCoy continuously deflects in another manner: by pointing out what Scott's done. And everyone responds in kind by pointing this out. How he constantly points out Scott and everything he's doing. Blaming him for everything. Granted, Hank's anti-Scott stance has been around since the days of Second Coming where he decided that, instead of grieving over Nightcrawler's death with everyone else, that he should instead use it to grandstand against Scott. Asshole, but that's beyond the point. See, this is truly where it comes into play: Dark Beast dies severely sick, with no explanation as to how he got this way. All he can say is how much he hates Scott Summers, and it makes sense. The X-Men have been an enemy of his for years, foiling him at every turn, and Scott has always been a major leader and figurehead in some form or another. But why focus on Scott's little movement? Why not pull a Cassandra Nova and full on bomb the main mutant refuge that is Krakoa? I mean, he's practically pulling her MO already with Sentinels both big and small.
It's because he specifically targeting Scott. Much like ol' 616 Hank, he has come to hate Scott Summers that it's his big motivation. He's had Scott as the big focus in his mind like a laser. Dark Beast is a vision of what his future could be: he hates Scott so damn much that he gets physically sick from it and with his dying breaths, he viciously attacks Scott with everything he can. It's a future vision of what Hank could become if he keeps going down this road, and to be honest he shows no signs of backing out. Look what happens at the end of the run: he hates Scott so much that even when quite possible one of the best things that mutants have accomplished in a long time is engineered by Scott (and Alex), he absolutely hates him for it. That Scott could dare get away with doing such a good thing. That Hank could begin to hate Scott so much that he becomes deathly ill isn't out of the realm of possibility. Coupled with his continued scientific experimentations, it's not really out of the realm of possibility that Dark Beast is certainly in his future.
A bit lengthy, but it's something I thought of and I wanted to throw it out there.
Also:
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Just a general thought on the upcoming books, but Young Animal in general just looks so good. Even though it's got a bit of different vibe to the original Vertigo, I do think it evokes the feel of fresh and new, and unpredictable, and it's not just that it's using some of the old properties. It opens the doors again of "well, they could really do anything here", no rules. They all look great that way, even if we haven't seen much of them yet and personally, I'm not even that familiar with the other writers onboard. It's not just doing what Morrison or Gaiman did before it, and that gives it some confidence that's appealing at a base level.
Not quite 9 months and I'll be able to say for sure!
Haven't read SoB yet, but it's a tough call. Omega Men seems better at the moment because it's actually a complete work at this point and knowing they stick the end point I am super high on it, but I really have this feeling Vision will be the better book at the end. I LOVE the writing style, the way he uses narration, language, the way the visions play with language amongst each other, it's just so well written. I enjoy a lot of comics but I don't read a lot that makes use of actual literary techniques in a real compelling way, despite seeking that stuff out. With both Omega Men & Vision it jumps off the page.
Mobile game I think!
I need to consider going back to Uncanny. I read the first twol regular volumes of each Uncanny & AN X-men, but similar to Thor, I eventually just stopped because I hate the Marvel Premiere HCs. Now they're out in OHC though, it's tempting to give em another shot. Plus Dark Beast, I mark for him, I remember him being so diabolical as a kid reading AoA
Oh wow, I really love that Hardman sketch, dude's work is really great in Invisible Republic.
LordOfLore
Banned
Man, I wish I could go to any of these:
RepairmanJack
Member
Doom Patrol was great. Not really sure what's all going on, but I really liked it. Young Animal off to a great start.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha the Glasgow stop is only half an hour away from me. Pretty tempting but I already need to go up to the city on the 29th, not sure my budget can work two trips in one week. Still, pretty rad.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
This is where I'm up to man, incredible eh, especially that issue, really intense stuff. And the ending! I love how the subplot just kind of slots in around the explanations for the other stuff in his house but then...Yea. Just great. King manages to keep you on your toes the whole way through that arc.
I love how tense it all feels. One of the few cape comics where I read one issue of and then just sort of swill it around my brain for a while.
Maybe I'll set aside some time to catch up and read #11 with everyone this Wednesday.
Yep, Miles is really coming into his own here.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
God damn you all. Second trade doesn't arrive until December. Plus I think it's one of those bizarre dates like the 26th of December. I hate that. Can't ask for it for Christmas, end up super busy over the holidays may as well wait til January with that date. I kind of want to follow Winkles lead and hang around for an OHC too. It is a great book and does engage you on a higher level than a lot of books. I know King is DC exclusive now but Marvel would do well to look at the critical success when they next diversify their line. New characters is great, but actual new tones to the books are even more valuable.
Did you.pull the trigger on the pc yet btw?
Freezasaurus
Member
I'm curious. Have you ever given a Black Panther book less than a 5/5?
You're not wrong at all. It's some next level stuff. Hype for what comes next.
The Miles book was also damn near perfect. Him, Kamala and Cho are the reasons I'm hype for Champions.
Finally time to catch up on the backlog.
Yea that scene with
them all in the plane after banners death was amazing
I am glad I started pulling spider-man again. It's like I am watching a character grow up
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha. I do like bread! Finished volume 2 of Gotham Academy. Fantastic book, Olive is a really great character, with lots of interesting foils around her with the larger cast. I would like it if they maybe did more issues from the other characters povs but with the book so good, it's hard to complain. Still my favourite DC ongoing.
Cloonan and co. have created such an interesting corner of the batman mythos and come at that world from such a different angle, it's almost like reading Gotham Central the first time you wonder why it hasn't always been there. Sadly there haven't been many police centric books since then, but hopefully Gotham Academy has a lasting legacy, it feels like an essential book for a batman, so many little nods to continuity, and it's a really fresh feeling book in comics at large. Nick Spencer wishes he wrote this book when he sat down to Morning Glories.
Bottom line: highly recommended, if there's anyone on the fence still. It made it through the dcyou purge so hopefully that means DC are behind it for as long as the creative team are.
Cloonan and co. have created such an interesting corner of the batman mythos and come at that world from such a different angle, it's almost like reading Gotham Central the first time you wonder why it hasn't always been there. Sadly there haven't been many police centric books since then, but hopefully Gotham Academy has a lasting legacy, it feels like an essential book for a batman, so many little nods to continuity, and it's a really fresh feeling book in comics at large. Nick Spencer wishes he wrote this book when he sat down to Morning Glories.
Bottom line: highly recommended, if there's anyone on the fence still. It made it through the dcyou purge so hopefully that means DC are behind it for as long as the creative team are.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Sheriff. It's not only great, it's essential.
Freezasaurus
Member
No one wants Titanfall 2. Not even Respawn.