Personally, I don't think I could've done anything else other what I did. I voted Bernie in the primary and Hilary in the general. My county and my state both went blue. Everyone in my family and all my friends were already voting for Hillary. Anyone who wasn't a Hillary fan, I made the case for HIlary and I usually got them to switch unless they were a hardcore conservative. I couldn't have done anything more. The only people who need to be introspective about this is Hilary and her team. They clearly thought Trump was a joke and everyone would vote for them regardless and didn't put in the work to get elected like they were supposed to. If they put in the work, we aren't having this discussion about who's to blame because she would've carried Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and won.
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Coming to terms: Make a cathartic admittance of mistakes you've made this election
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ginger ninja
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I believed Trump would beat out hillary in repulsiveness and I was wrong. That's that on my part. The DNC and pundits though, fucking fucked up to read the climate.
PatThePassive
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Have we come full circle in this election and are now absolving ourselves of the result?
I view the POTUS like the decisions made on an international level that I don't agree with, getting involved in certain conflicts or some of our allies.
I voted against it but I am(and we if you are a citizen of the US) responsible for trump on some level.
But it is easier to blame others so I get it.
I view the POTUS like the decisions made on an international level that I don't agree with, getting involved in certain conflicts or some of our allies.
I voted against it but I am(and we if you are a citizen of the US) responsible for trump on some level.
But it is easier to blame others so I get it.
I expected Trump to become president the moment he won the primaries with a clear margin. That was the light shone on the silent majority Trump's had for him and that's why I wasn't surprised at all that Trump became president in the end.
And yet I see NeoGAF, people were laughing and joking about him. Almost daily threads made for him, and worse, in the Hillary threads I only see posts about not needing to do anything as he is going to get walloped so hard.
It was so bad that anyone who posted that they think Trump is strong, they get mocked. That was how complacent GAF was.
The way the forum behaved, it's as if Hillary is going to win at least 70% of the votes.
For me, I thought it was going to be close to 50%-50% and it was no joking matter.
And yet I see NeoGAF, people were laughing and joking about him. Almost daily threads made for him, and worse, in the Hillary threads I only see posts about not needing to do anything as he is going to get walloped so hard.
It was so bad that anyone who posted that they think Trump is strong, they get mocked. That was how complacent GAF was.
The way the forum behaved, it's as if Hillary is going to win at least 70% of the votes.
For me, I thought it was going to be close to 50%-50% and it was no joking matter.
LifEndz
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Engaged in the echo chamber way too much. Between MSNBC (not morning Joe), Keeping it 1600 and 538, I just couldn't see him possibly winning.
Plus...I honestly thought the country had come further than this. I know there are a lot of really effed up people out there, but I never thought someone as bigoted, racist and just flat out despicable as Trump could ever win the presidency. That "grab 'em by the pussy" comment was the nail in the coffin to me. I mean, how in the hell could women vote for him after that? Boy oh boy was wrong.
Now I won't put anything past this country. Hell, David Duke could win the presidency as long as he promises jobs and "law and order" for the blacks.
Plus...I honestly thought the country had come further than this. I know there are a lot of really effed up people out there, but I never thought someone as bigoted, racist and just flat out despicable as Trump could ever win the presidency. That "grab 'em by the pussy" comment was the nail in the coffin to me. I mean, how in the hell could women vote for him after that? Boy oh boy was wrong.
Now I won't put anything past this country. Hell, David Duke could win the presidency as long as he promises jobs and "law and order" for the blacks.
the_sun_king
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Trusting the American voters. I definitely won't do that again.
Oh, and paying any attention to polls.
Oh, and paying any attention to polls.
Trigonometrize.
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I had the chance to turn one of the more powerful (in this election) and traditionally red states, Arizona, blue, but instead decided to be complacent with the liberal County ai live in and do my duty of voting Clinton. I underestimated how much her ties to scandals, the establishment, and general BS would eat away at her chances and didn't take enough time to fight that.
Polls are garbage.
Polls are garbage.
LegendofLex
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Whether they intend their vote to be at minorities' expense is not what qualifies something as upholding white supremacy.
It's whether their vote actually comes at minorities' expense.
There are two sides to white supremacy:
1) White supremacists who believe in the superiority and dominance of whites
2) All systems and patterns of behavior that contribute to the superiority and dominance of whites
2 is very, very hard to break out of, because they exist and we participate in them without us thinking about them or knowing they are there.
talisayNon
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Listened to Hillary-gaf and fell in line
Tinfoilhatsron
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Was a huge Bernie fan. And I was sad that he lost the primary. Then I was told to vote Clinton in the GE and I did. Even though I was in GA. What the fuck did I do to get Trump.
Vigilant Walrus
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On GAF:
Giving Hillary Supporters too much of a hard time. Always wanting to discuss foreign policy in a vacuum. I regret standing on my pedestal in so many threads.
I also think I brought out the worst in Hillary supporters. I always wanted to debate the technicalities. No, I cannot prove that Hillary is beholden by big money, but I feel uncomfortable.
Reflecting on back that now, how is anyone going to relate to that I have a knack or tingling feeling about something. Sometimes you need to pick your battles.
I wonder that if I had given less push back on Clinton in many threads if Clinton supporters themselves would have made more self-critical threads of Clinton. It's possible that so much heat was on Clinton, on facebook, twitter, youtube that there was just no stamina for any Clinton supporters to make that thread I wanted them to make about; Things we don't like about Clinton, and how we want her to get better.
It has bothered the shit out of me that nobody wanted to address the things I didn't like, though at a certain point (at the convention) I came to peace with Clinton. I was so happy when Bernies platform was embraced. I thought it was a major win when he had the time risked being the most hated man in the Democratic party. I saw it as a win and really liked that they respected him so much they gave him so much. For a man at his age I thought it was beautiful.
In General:
I was completely calm for the past week, and only wondered how much Clinton was gonna smoke Trump. The thought didn't occur to me at all that there was anything up. His ratings seemed like they were in the toilet. I feel pride before the fall symptoms.
Giving Hillary Supporters too much of a hard time. Always wanting to discuss foreign policy in a vacuum. I regret standing on my pedestal in so many threads.
I also think I brought out the worst in Hillary supporters. I always wanted to debate the technicalities. No, I cannot prove that Hillary is beholden by big money, but I feel uncomfortable.
Reflecting on back that now, how is anyone going to relate to that I have a knack or tingling feeling about something. Sometimes you need to pick your battles.
I wonder that if I had given less push back on Clinton in many threads if Clinton supporters themselves would have made more self-critical threads of Clinton. It's possible that so much heat was on Clinton, on facebook, twitter, youtube that there was just no stamina for any Clinton supporters to make that thread I wanted them to make about; Things we don't like about Clinton, and how we want her to get better.
It has bothered the shit out of me that nobody wanted to address the things I didn't like, though at a certain point (at the convention) I came to peace with Clinton. I was so happy when Bernies platform was embraced. I thought it was a major win when he had the time risked being the most hated man in the Democratic party. I saw it as a win and really liked that they respected him so much they gave him so much. For a man at his age I thought it was beautiful.
In General:
I was completely calm for the past week, and only wondered how much Clinton was gonna smoke Trump. The thought didn't occur to me at all that there was anything up. His ratings seemed like they were in the toilet. I feel pride before the fall symptoms.
Not even American here, so sorry to intrude.
But I hope the Democrats hold a more competitive primary next time. I don't see what's to be gained from practically appointing a candidate. The DNC and super delegates being stacked in her favour was shit too. The party seems to have decided who they thought could win, rather than letting the people choose who should represent their values. I have no doubt that other senior Democrats were politely asked not to run, or otherwise knew this was "Hillary's year" and didn't want to rock the boat.
But I hope the Democrats hold a more competitive primary next time. I don't see what's to be gained from practically appointing a candidate. The DNC and super delegates being stacked in her favour was shit too. The party seems to have decided who they thought could win, rather than letting the people choose who should represent their values. I have no doubt that other senior Democrats were politely asked not to run, or otherwise knew this was "Hillary's year" and didn't want to rock the boat.
I honestly don't think there was a single thing I could have done better, that's the most frustrating part. I was for Bernie (who won in my state), but Hillary won so I got behind her because of how much was at stake. I donated, I voted, I tried to spread awareness *shrug*. I was confident she was going to win, but that never changed how seriously I took the whole thing.
The only consolation I can give myself is that my state never goes blue anyways, and even if it did it's only 3 electoral votes. Weeeeee
The only consolation I can give myself is that my state never goes blue anyways, and even if it did it's only 3 electoral votes. Weeeeee
old manatee
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Whenever I talk about politics I'm equal parts insistent and wrong.
WaterAstro
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I overestimated the Hollywood power.
I thought celebrities and star power were extremely against Trump, and pop culture of America would sway votes to go against Trump especially with Social Media this strong.
I guess it doesn't really work. Too many older voters or maybe too many younger generation non-voters. Well, whatever.
I thought celebrities and star power were extremely against Trump, and pop culture of America would sway votes to go against Trump especially with Social Media this strong.
I guess it doesn't really work. Too many older voters or maybe too many younger generation non-voters. Well, whatever.
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