Bobby Roberts
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Conor Mcgregor mentions Rocky III "dancing monkeys"; says meant circus-like celeb gym
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Lol
Sato Koiji
Member
Floyds gon' heem sleepy!
Ninja Scooter
Member
This is like the 2nd or 3rd post I've seen in this thread taking this same stupid tone/stance. What the fuck are you people talking about? "Connor is saying racist things purposely so that people can get upset at him being racist and you guys are falling for it!" Do you mean for your opinion to sound as stupid as this?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
This entire fight is a trainwreck.
Racist vs Woman Beater in a fight that's a transparent sham for both of them to make millions of dollars that everyone is going to fall for anyway.
This could only happen in 2017
Racist vs Woman Beater in a fight that's a transparent sham for both of them to make millions of dollars that everyone is going to fall for anyway.
This could only happen in 2017
You're on a roll.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Because he specifically referred to a scene in the celebrity gym in the movie which didn't feature black people. And it didn't feature monkeys either. So we can either assume:
1) He was referring to black people as monkeys because it fits the narrative he is racist
2) He was referring to a scene which played up the celebrity aspect of Rocky and he mis-remembered as having literal monkeys
3) He was referring to the dancers / product sellers / PR people etc. in the scene as monkeys (none of which were black)
In any case, because he misremembered the specific scene he referred to it is a massive stretch to go on and then say he is referring to black people when there are plenty of other reasonable comparisons.
And yes I do think he is racist (at least evidently to South Americans) - but it is very difficult to say this is without putting a bias over the top of it. I'd also add that nearly anything racist he has said, its been to the face of the fighter to get a rise out of them. Not that it makes it forgivable, but I don't think its off the cuff racism he deals with - its more the sort of stuff that he can get his opponent burning over.
Essentially what we are dealing with is
Conor has been racist before + Conor said "dancing monkeys" with little extrapolatable context = Conor is being racist about black people
LeroyPantwether
Member
Arent their monkeys in rockey 1. Did rocky ever take dude's advice and take adrian to the zoo. Maybe thats what connor was misremembering ...?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
You're not being honest.
Mayweather is a racist, woman beating shit, McGregor is a racist shit. I'm not going to pay to see them fight but I'll check out the gif of McGregor getting knocked out later
BronsonLee
Member
Can the fight end with a double KO followed by the FBI swarming the ring and arresting everyone in the ring and the first four rows
I don't know how anyone can defend what Conor said, referring to black people as monkey's is about as racist as you get. "He didn't mean it that way"---what the fuck else does he mean?
As rumblebones pointed out on the first page, Conor has a history with this sort of racially charged behavior.
Also no one is defending Mayweather, he's a giant piece of shit too.
"IT'S A WORK!!!!" they said, as if that suddenly makes the racism ok.
As rumblebones pointed out on the first page, Conor has a history with this sort of racially charged behavior.
Also no one is defending Mayweather, he's a giant piece of shit too.
"IT'S A WORK!!!!" they said, as if that suddenly makes the racism ok.
Closer Two
Member
Everyone in this thread is so ready to accept he's a racist despite not knowing anything about how Irish people talk. Jumping on the outrage bandwagon is so fun right?
"Boy" is used here like "man" is in the US.
Sup man = Well boy.
I don't know man = No way boy.
The monkey line is him mixing up Rocky III with another film.
Mayweather is a terrible person who beats women and gets away with it because he's really good at hitting people.
McGregor is a loudmouth wannabe wrestler shit talker and a bit of asshole but If you think they're comparable you are wrong.
"Boy" is used here like "man" is in the US.
Sup man = Well boy.
I don't know man = No way boy.
The monkey line is him mixing up Rocky III with another film.
Mayweather is a terrible person who beats women and gets away with it because he's really good at hitting people.
McGregor is a loudmouth wannabe wrestler shit talker and a bit of asshole but If you think they're comparable you are wrong.
Deuce Deuce
Member
youtube linky?
Irishmantis
Member
Again nobody from inner city Dublin refers to people as boy!
Man I'm with you they both shitheads but how am I not being honest?
Velcro Fly
Member
Hey I acknowledged that both are bad and that one is worse and got jumped on for it. I also believe that because both people are pieces of shit it makes people less and not more likely to buy the fight. If someone gets knocked out gifs of it will be everywhere in no time anyway.
the_darkness
Banned
What do "cholo gangster" and "horseback favela slaughter" mean in your crazy Irish slang?
Ninja Scooter
Member
What a pathetic excuse. "You don't understand how Irish people talk! Also he probably just confused Rocky III with another movie about dancing monkeys that he wanted to compare black people to!"
ebullientprism
Member
Just saw the scene he is referring to.
Yeah that is racist as fuck!
Yeah that is racist as fuck!
ThirtyPlus
Member
Wow....this fucking thread.
RBelong2Us
Member
Um because people are saying they hope Mayweather destroys McGregor because he's a racist and ignoring that fact that Mayweather is also a giant piece of crap?
So some people are dismissing one persons shitty-ness for another .
I mean that is exactly what he wants. For people to hate him and buy the fight hoping he gets his ass beat. I thought it was obvious, but apparently not.
Mister Wolf
Member
Except you forget about his comment to Jose Aldo or you are aware and just wont bring it up because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Not in this universe, or the next.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The bias would be that he's a racist, yes?
So it's pretty not-difficult to say.
And since you think he's a racist, why would you give him the benefit of the doubt that this perceived racism is in fact just a big misunderstanding, especially since you agree he's a racist, thus sharing the exact same bias being held by those interpreting his comment as a reference to Apollo's gym?
Deuce Deuce
Member
That's different though!
johancruijff
Banned
i guess it depends how accustomed you are to reading the OP you passive aggressive fuck
PingPongvonLaserstein
Member
Whataboutism.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Who cares? What does that have to do with the discussion? And how does that equate people discussing this and condemning his racist comments as "suckers"? What you are basically saying is "he's not racist but he is saying racist things to get people upset at his racism lol haha suckers". Do you realize not only how stupid that sounds, but how irrelevant it is to the core of the conversation? As if using racism to sell a fight makes him any better/different than actually being racist.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Lol start a poll and see how many people in this thread are gonna chip in on that 100 to buy this fight.
Lemme know how much money you think this thread is making them lol
Lol
Irishmantis
Member
Can't speak for other people but from my perspective it's reverse
Nobody should supporting anybody for this shit rather than say "hey they both evened out their scumbag levels so uh.... we back on square one"
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
You think many people on Gaf are going to pay for a fight lol
RBelong2Us
Member
McGregor doesn't need to be a racist to sell this card, lol, come on .
This is why his ass couldn't hang with the likes of Stone Cold and The Rock. They'd run circles around him.
They know how to be bad asses without turning full heel.
This is why his ass couldn't hang with the likes of Stone Cold and The Rock. They'd run circles around him.
They know how to be bad asses without turning full heel.
Boy Wander
Member
Didn't Lennox Lewis call Frank Bruno an "Uncle Tom".? That's a pretty big insult from one black guy to another.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
This makes sense although I would not know what letter to pick, I had not heard Conor was a racist before today. I know he's cool with a bunch of rappers but that's a color green thing and i'm not sure it counts. WTF, I'm not buying the fight anyway so what do I care. GGG VS Canelo will be a better fight and so will most of the SummerSlam lineup.
I will say that "Boy" is to fluent a term to just through racism on it, that part I do know. Everybody of every color in Philly uses a version of that between everybody else.
I'm Irish, this dude is racist as fuck. What are you lads on about with the "it's just slang" stuff? He's said so much questionable shit I don't know why you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Even if "boy" wasn't intended to be racist, he's said so much worse stuff in the past that it's no question that he's racist (or for you pedants, somehow one says racist shit to provoke a response, which is indistinguishable from an actual fucking racist and just as harmful).
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Well
I guess I have to root for a double KO
I guess I have to root for a double KO
Welp, glad that's cleared up then!
Chuck Norris
Banned
Because he specifically referred to a part of the movie in the "celebrity gym" and the Apollo gym was hardly a celebrity gym - it was a run down street gym and is very hard to mistake as a celebrity gym.
Either way, you have to recontextualise what he has said and ASSUME he is talking about something else in the movie for the racism to even work.
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt because you have to stretch so far for it to fit into being racist.
Mammoth Jones
Member
They're both pieces of shits ans I'm not paying to watch them. Whoever wins we lose.
Also Irish.
As for "Dance for me, boy..." it's definitely racist, imo. Only Cork people generally use boy in that way. Doesn't happen in Dublin. Much more likely for a Crumlin / Lucan lad to be channeling the racist use of it picked up in American media.
As for "Dancing monkeys in the gym" having watched the applicable Rocky III scenes, it genuinely seems to me like he's either misremembering monkeys being in Rocky's circus of a celebrity gym or referring to all the morons around Rocky as monkeys. There's nothing to suggest he's referring to any group of black people in a gym.
Can't stand the guy either way. Doesn't represent me, that's for sure.
As for "Dance for me, boy..." it's definitely racist, imo. Only Cork people generally use boy in that way. Doesn't happen in Dublin. Much more likely for a Crumlin / Lucan lad to be channeling the racist use of it picked up in American media.
As for "Dancing monkeys in the gym" having watched the applicable Rocky III scenes, it genuinely seems to me like he's either misremembering monkeys being in Rocky's circus of a celebrity gym or referring to all the morons around Rocky as monkeys. There's nothing to suggest he's referring to any group of black people in a gym.
Can't stand the guy either way. Doesn't represent me, that's for sure.
The reverse is what's happening. That Conor's racism makes people love Floyd and equate his DV as being just as bad as this. You can hate Conor and still hate Floyd more.
Posts like that just bring to light how little GAF gives a fuck about domestic violence. And then the constant "it's not relevant" posts on top of that.