You are making a correlation fallacy. Mandates get implemented as a preventative measurement. You can just as easily assume that cases would have been even higher without mandates. Your data just shows associations, not causations, and doesn't have a baseline comparison.
Eh, you don't know that. That's just wishful thinking. He/she could have contracted Omicron in the hospital as part of a nosocomial outbreak and died from it.
I disagree in this case. The point of mandates is to stop the spread of COVID and decrease cases. They haven't decreased. So they haven't worked. There's no data to suggest one way or the other cases would've been even higher without mandates, especially when a lot of the COVID spikes are in strong mandate areas like NYC. But even if it were true, it's still increasing, just increasing not as much. But the purpose of the mandates is to decrease the spread. "We can't get back to normal life until there's a downward trajectory" is all I keep hearing, yet there's an upward trajectory.
This virus doesn't have to be smallpox or the plague to be dangerous. We have countless examples of society on the verge of collapse just because our healthcare system gets overwhelmed from an oversaturation of COVID19 patients. The minor inconvenience of being told to get a vaccine is vastly preferable than going back to overflowing hospitals.
"Society on the verge of collapse" is pretty hyperbolic. But that isn't going to happen with most people masking and vaccinated now. But that's part of the having to learn to live with it. If it ends up being endemic, and it still may not, but if it does, we can't do mandates and boosters forever. Nor are people going to tolerate it. People can readjust short term, but I'm telling you at some point, and that breaking point is different for everyone, but people are going to tire of the masks and monthly boosters, and people more and more are going to stop complying if they try these measures in perpetuity. At some point we're going to have to pivot to increasing hospital staff, capacities, and procedures. And just learning to deal. And then over time I think what you'll see is less deadly strains take over, as they typically do, and naturally through mutation COVID will kind of take care of itself on its own.
DUAL infection from Omicron and Delta could create a super-mutant
Dr Paul Burton, its chief medical officer, said he expected the two strains to co-exist for some time. This raised the risk of them infecting the same cell, and possibly swapping genes.www.dailymail.co.uk
Oh shit! DOUBLE COVID sounds scary as hell!
They help a bit .. but wharves the point as we get a new variant every 4 - 7 months ..No. Omicron was an incidental finding after admission.
Some real world data from the first 78,000 Omicron cases. Tl;dr - it causes less hospitalisations and vaccines work.
yup , this shit is real, what if someone already is vaccinated , has HIV, had delta , a cold and now Omnikron , jumps back to an animal , reinfects a human, they warned for these viruses more than 30 years ago , but research was stopped. … look at us now. Grasping for straws. Our leading Dutch scientist needed to start working in Germany .DUAL infection from Omicron and Delta could create a super-mutant
Dr Paul Burton, its chief medical officer, said he expected the two strains to co-exist for some time. This raised the risk of them infecting the same cell, and possibly swapping genes.
Oh shit! DOUBLE COVID sounds scary as hell!
I think you'd need a control group to prove that, which would be very difficult
No, that's only when Double SECRET COVID is detected. It's double COVID but asymptomatic.
That time has past .. 2 years ago if we did a full Wuhan lock down we could have had a better grip world wide .. now we need to life with how we made our reality.
I agree. We are never going to reach 80% vaccinations. We just aren't. Especially when soon that 80% will have to include those who've gotten the booster. Which is coming. It's inevitable you won't be considered vaccinated anymore unless you got the booster. And eventually, it'll be unless you got your 4th shot. And a 5th. Eventually it has to stop. And putting in mandates to deter people from public life to try and force it is wrong. People with vaccines can still catch and spread COVID. If they work as well as people say, then there isn't a ton to worry about. There's still some chance things can go really badly for you, but it's rare. At this point, if people want to be unvaccinated, that's their problem. Hospitals are not going to be overrun again on a wide scale. You may have a tiny hospital here or there deal with some issues, but with most people vaccinated, masks, and now pills starting to come out that treat COVID once you get it, I don't believe overrun hospitals and a strained healthcare system is much of a concern anymore.
I like your view on things , but normal is gone , also on schools , the sooner we realize this , the beter we can handle and adjust to it all . And start building a better and new world .
normal is gone in the sense that "normal" exists only your head and this is life as usual, many are just being introduced to the world of microbes ; their world that we live in...
I like war if the worlds“we earned our right to life on this planet” now we need to life with COVID.
It’s time to get back to normal. Oh boy, this will be fun to watch. Taking bets how many people will die with ‘thoughts and prayers’? Hey maybe you can build a nice, shiny memorial while chanting how the US is the greatest country in the world ?
DUAL infection from Omicron and Delta could create a super-mutant
Dr Paul Burton, its chief medical officer, said he expected the two strains to co-exist for some time. This raised the risk of them infecting the same cell, and possibly swapping genes.
Oh shit! DOUBLE COVID sounds scary as hell!
theconversation.com
Lol.
It helped them a great deal, the occasional short lock down they have .. their economy is booming .. look at us
we even buy the COVID rapid tests from China. Everything went to shit in the West, but it doesn’t matter as we can’t do this anymore because the COVID genie is out of the bottle 
This was before Omnikron, which they figured wouldn’t happen for a couple of years , its sad but scientists are also grasping for straws , it’s starting to look like cat & mouse game for the coming decade (s) with some breathing room in the hot periods (depends on which part of the world you life) and lock downs and measures throughout the year, with harsher measures in cold periods .Is COVID-19 here to stay? A team of biologists explains what it means for a virus to become endemic
Some viruses go extinct, while others stick around. The virus that causes COVID-19 seems likely to remain with us for the long term.
That’s a huge assumption on your part and more revealing of your personal biases than anything. Not sure if things normally work like this in the UK, but it’s generally the norm here for granular details not to be released to the public when it involves the health of an individual.
www.pnas.org
whats wrong with this doc?
this is photoshop, right?
www.theguardian.com
Greatest country on earth though right??? Right?We're number 1, we're number 1! American exceptionalism.
‘A terrible tragedy’: US passes 800,000 Covid deaths – highest in the world
Figure deemed doubly heartbreaking considering the widespread availability of vaccines, as WHO warns Omicron is spreading at unprecedented rate
Most freedom-loving country on God's green Earth, yet also number one in incarceration rate. That's how it's supposed to work, right?Greatest country on earth though right??? Right?
Please clap
www.theglobeandmail.com
Sadly dead’s always follow , and Omnikron spreads 3 times faster as delta .Do we know that Omicron is more dangerous, or is it just speculation so far?
COVID-19 live updates: Ontario to speed up COVID-19 booster shots for adults 18 and older as early as Friday
Ontario’s new COVID-19 restrictions also include an expansion of rapid testing in the province, including take-home tests at LCBO stores starting this week.
I mean the cases are higher here in Canada but we're not seeing the daily death count rise dramatically. It seems to me they're not even sure yet if this thing is more deadly. If it really is more contagious and more resistant to existing vaccines because of mutations, then technically that would make it deadlier. It's just not clear how much real world damage it will cause.
COVID-19 live updates: Ontario to speed up COVID-19 booster shots for adults 18 and older as early as Friday
Ontario’s new COVID-19 restrictions also include an expansion of rapid testing in the province, including take-home tests at LCBO stores starting this week.
I mean the cases are higher here in Canada but we're not seeing the daily death count rise dramatically. It seems to me they're not even sure yet if this thing is more deadly. If it really is more contagious and more resistant to existing vaccines because of mutations, then technically that would make it deadlier. It's just not clear how much real world damage it will cause.
We don't really know yet. It may end up being finally 'just the flu, bro'. Signs point to this being the case but the problem is by the time we get a solid answer, if it is as deadly as the other variants we will be screwed, hence the seeming over-reaction by governments currently.Do we know that Omicron is more dangerous, or is it just speculation so far?
COVID-19 live updates: Ontario to speed up COVID-19 booster shots for adults 18 and older as early as Friday
Ontario’s new COVID-19 restrictions also include an expansion of rapid testing in the province, including take-home tests at LCBO stores starting this week.
I mean the cases are higher here in Canada but we're not seeing the daily death count rise dramatically. It seems to me they're not even sure yet if this thing is more deadly. If it really is more contagious and more resistant to existing vaccines because of mutations, then technically that would make it deadlier. It's just not clear how much real world damage it will cause.
Everything points to Omnikron being just as deadly .. but 3 times faster spreading and evading vaccines .. so no , the world is not overreacting. Even in Soyth Africa dead’s are climbing , it’s just that Africa has a young population.
Nothing to see here , you can go back your pubs ? At least you had a couple of weeks of fun
This was always the outcome in winter with these retarded governments? Freedom day and no measures! The Netherlands included .Yes , and the next version piles up on this one , and so on and on .. time to change how we life .
Nothing to see here , you can go back your pubs ? At least you had a couple of weeks of fun
For 2 hours , okay
