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CRACKDOWN 3 |OT| The Cloud Only Plays Multiplayer Games. BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!!!

LostDonkey

Member
This game has some insane reflection mapping and texture work going on I didn't even notice at first.

The game makes use of a lot of screen space reflections in puddles and in the rain, but it also uses fallback techniques on almost every shiny object in the game. The barrel I'm holding up in this image is reflecting the reflection of the advertisement. The barrel reflects everything around it from NPCs, to you, to weapon fire.
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Hard to catch in images, but the building windows in the game use a similar technique to the one Forza Horizon 4 uses on it's building windows called parallax texture mapping. It's a texture that changes the portrayed geometry based on the player's point of view. it gives the illusion of modeled interiors but is simply one of several layers of textures used to make the windows.
Very impressive little details, cant wait to try this out!
 
I think that I can agree with this feeling. The best example, I think, would be the agility stat. In the original you'd jump higher and thus farther once you gained higher levels. In CD3 you get a double jump and a strafe jump (triple jump?), at least so far I've only gotten to level 3 yet.

Each agility orb adds a little bit to jump height and air movement speed. By level 5 I am making jumps I could barely make with a double jump early on without double jumping. It's a little deceptive because you are way bigger by level 5.

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I think games should be reviewed on a 'fun' rating. Seriously, that's all I want to know, how much fun will I have with a game? I couldn't give a shit how amazing the production values are or how diverse the cast is. Don't care how much money you spent or how many focus groups you targeted. Give me the FUN!

Crackdown 3 is already doing that :)
 

Hotspurr

Banned
Finished it.

The good:
- great guns and effects
- orb collecting and leveling is addicting
- lots of explosions and crazy stuff going all around
- neon design
- robust platforming

The bad:
- shallow story and characters
- awful driving
- empty "open world"
- repetitive
- similar boss fights and general objectives
- enemy variety limited
- feels like a "one trick pony" in many ways

I would say I had fun with it. It's short and sweet. Doubt it'll be memorable, or a game I will recommend someone buy for $60 for singleplayer. A reasonable price point would be $30-40 given the lack of quality compared to AAA titles that are actually worth that much. This game gets the gameplay alright, but the depth of enjoyment is highly superficial. As an indie game I would give it an 8. As a full $60 release it is dated and quite frankly I could live without ever playing it, you really won't miss much. I think that 6-7/10 is about right, if not a bit generous, for this.

I disagree with "fun is all that matters". Getting on a rollercoaster ride (which is like this game), is fun. But going on a 2 week all inclusive vacation in the Caribbean is a different level of fun. So you have to rate these games in relation to the competition, not in a vacuum.

If you have gamepass or can rent this for a weekend it's well worth the time. If you're looking for your next AAA gaming adventure skip this for now.
 

RPS37

Member
Level 3 everything except 4 Agility. I’m digging it now. It’s decent. I was having trouble with a boss, then I just went collected a bunch of orbs, did some stunt rings and took out some side missions.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Level 5 everything except driving which is 2 :)

I think I'm getting close to be done, which is surprising considering how long I've been playing (couple of days a couple of hours here and there).
 

jshackles

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Level 5 everything except driving which is 2 :)

Same here, driving level 2 because it's actually a lot more difficult to level up driving than anything else. Similar to Crackdown 1 in that regard. I think I'm about 2/3rds of the way done.
 

Mista

Banned
Never liked Crackdown as I couldn’t enjoy the gameplay previously. But now, I’m actually enjoying crackdown 3!
 

TLZ

Banned
This game has definitely crushed black issues.
Shadowy areas are really dark, like you are experiencing an eclipse.
Are you on SDR or HDR? I'm on HDR and increased my HDR brightness to 400 or 500 (whichever is a 100 less than max) and it looks fantastic.
 
I have been playing this all weekend mostly co-op with a friend and it has been really great fun. I loved the original and this is a great sequel to it. the style of the city in HDR looks great the game play is a laugh and the bosses are fun. it has its frustrating glitches and bugs but overall I have been really enjoying it and it is nice to play a game that feels so similar to the original. I also effectively paid £2 to rent it as I did the 2 months game pass for £2 deal. I honestly feel like I'm stealing it at that price but hey.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I don't see HDR options in the menus and HDR is on in the console settings. What's up?
 

Caayn

Member
You definitely run faster and jump higher when leveled up, I took an angent at level 3 agility and joined a friend that just started and I was killing him just running around.

The thing is that as you get used to your agent, you might not feel the upgrade as much as someone who is lower level trying to keep up with you.
Each agility orb adds a little bit to jump height and air movement speed. By level 5 I am making jumps I could barely make with a double jump early on without double jumping. It's a little deceptive because you are way bigger by level 5.
Fair points.
It's always cool to see someone immortalized inside one of their own works.
 

VAL0R

Banned
Guys there are significant perks for leveling your agent to 6 in all stats, fyi. So it's not pointless to keep going after 5.

Agility Level 6: Escape Velocity - Boosters can now be kept active for a period of time
Firearms Level 6: Damocles Rounds - All firearm ammunition regenerates and deals insane damage and impulse
Strength Level 6: Boomfist - All unarmed melee attacks detonate an explosion on contact
Explosives Level 6: Apocalypse - Explosive ammunition and gadgets regenerate quickly and deal an insane amount of damage and knockback in a wide area
Driving Level 6: Mean Machine - An ultimate upgrade for the Agency Vehicle, maxing-out the primary abilities of the Lighting, Spider, and Minotaur forms
(The above was taken from Shack News: https://www.shacknews.com/article/109880/skills-abilities-and-leveling-fast-in-crackdown-3)


Something I didn't realize until hours of gameplay (I just grabbed stuff without paying much attention):
Glowing green pick-ups - grenade/gadget resupply
Glowing yellow pick-ups - explosives resupply
Glowing blue pick-ups - firearms resupply

Edit:

I've killed all bosses and am just mopping up the city, having fun. I'm missing the last gun (that creates portals?). Anybody found this? The black hole grenade is amazing, fyi. It's one of the most fun weapons I've ever used in a game.
 
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RiccochetJ

Gold Member
This game is the perfect Game Pass game. I played through it over the weekend and while I had a fun time with it, there's no way I'd recommend anyone buy it for $60. I'm going to continue this week and get through the highest difficulty and go for some of the more fun achievements. I tried the MP, and hoo boy, I did not enjoy that. The destruction is cool, but the MP itself is a cluster.

If you have Game Pass, definitely check it out, but other than that, see if Redbox has it for a rental or wait for it to drop to something like $20. I honestly don't think it'll take that long for this game to have a steep price drop.
 
Yeah this is one of those games that sells gamepass. Like I know once I'm done with it I'll move on but it's a total blast. However every game to me is technically one and done.
 
This game reminds me of creative destruction. Animations are so... What a crazy downgrade. Can’t see why Media Molecule can’t create the original idea on PS5.
 

nowhat

Gold Member
Destruction wise, helped with them Dual-Contoured Voxels. Their engine seems less hungry.

Are you choking on something?
I'm following the thread mostly for popcorn - just failed to see how MM/PS5 has anything to do with the thread. But maybe it's just me.
 

Caayn

Member
Just hit Agility level 4. The double strafe is a bit strange but sure to give the extra speed.
Wow....No shame in your game.

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Don't feed the trolls, you'll never win. Let them waste their own time but not your time.

The rest of the forum is already pissing itself let's not entertain them in the OT.
 
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An emotional moment for me was when i played Crackdown 3 and five minutes later i've decided to sell my Xbox on Ebay. :( Such a touching moment i wanted to see happen.
Imagine being such a piece of shit that in the name of console wars you have to mock a Twitter post about Phil enjoying seeing a fellow colleague that passed remembered in a game. GAF is super troll city now. Too bad.
 
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Gediminas

Banned
Imagine being such a piece of shit that in the name of console wars you have to mock a Twitter post about Phil enjoying seeing a fellow colleague that passed remembered in a game. GAF is super troll city now. Too bad.
Piece of shit is Phil, use dead guys name for PR. It is new bottom for whole m$, but of course nothing new here, they sold their asses if they could and sell their mothers too. They are bunch of unethical donkeys.
You have to be pretty insane to spin this PR stunt as positive.
 
Piece of shit is Phil, use dead guys name for PR. It is new bottom for whole m$, but of course nothing new here, they sold their asses if they could and sell their mothers too. They are bunch of unethical donkeys.
You have to be pretty insane to spin this PR stunt as positive.
Wowzers. Maybe because he goes back to gears 2 working with MS, they have history. Pay the troll toll.
 

betrayal

Banned
Imagine being such a piece of shit that in the name of console wars you have to mock a Twitter post about Phil enjoying seeing a fellow colleague that passed remembered in a game. GAF is super troll city now. Too bad.

Imagine being this tasteless.

What the fuck are you guys talking about? Phil Spencer shamelessly uses the death of a person to promote a game. Anyway he is one of the biggest scammers in video game history with all the blatant lies he made. It's a shame people like you fall for these lies, but maybe you enjoy the power of the cloud and all these mediocre exclusives.

Besides that i don't care about any virtual console wars. I've always had a XBOX360, PS3, WiiU and now XOne X, PS4 Pro and Switch, because i like to play good games, which are often exclusives. But (for me) Microsoft has brutally failed with the exclusive games they provide for quite some time now and it's a shame. Adding up to this is the dishonest and unapologetic marketing campaign people fall for.
 
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betrayal

Banned
There's no doubt the level of discourse has sunk to an all time low for GAF.

I think Phil Spencer promotes a game with a dead person, which i don't like. You then came here to call me a "piece of shit"?

I know they both had history and i even googled "Mike Forgey" yesterday before i posted, but it's still insensitive and inapt and a guy like Phil Spencer knows this. It's cool that they use his name in the game, but trying to induce emotions based on dead people to promote a game is wrong. You should also keep in mind that he don't post private things on his Twitter account. 100% of his posts are marketing-driven. I would even go so far as to say it is a corporate account.
 
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DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
An emotional moment for me was when i played Crackdown 3 and five minutes later i've decided to sell my Xbox on Ebay. :( Such a touching moment i wanted to see happen.


This post is lame, not much else to say about it. The quoted post was about memorializing a friend in the game. I dont really see the need to joke about it or to falsely claim you will sell your xbox on ebay. Be a better poster.
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
Piece of shit is Phil, use dead guys name for PR. It is new bottom for whole m$, but of course nothing new here, they sold their asses if they could and sell their mothers too. They are bunch of unethical donkeys.
You have to be pretty insane to spin this PR stunt as positive.


I am usually the first to call out corproate greed and corproate lies. But I dont see how you can find fault with this tweet. If you dont liek the game so be it. But he was just mentioning that they had an in game memorial for a dead person. What the hell is wrong with you?
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
What the fuck are you guys talking about? Phil Spencer shamelessly uses the death of a person to promote a game. Anyway he is one of the biggest scammers in video game history with all the blatant lies he made. It's a shame people like you fall for these lies, but maybe you enjoy the power of the cloud and all these mediocre exclusives.

Besides that i don't care about any virtual console wars. I've always had a XBOX360, PS3, WiiU and now XOne X, PS4 Pro and Switch, because i like to play good games, which are often exclusives. But (for me) Microsoft has brutally failed with the exclusive games they provide for quite some time now and it's a shame. Adding up to this is the dishonest and unapologetic marketing campaign people fall for.

See my post above and please be careful with your language. There is nothing in this tweet to suggest that this was some sort of a stunt or pure promotion and I am normally the first one to call companies out for that shit.
 

betrayal

Banned
This post is lame, not much else to say about it. The quoted post was about memorializing a friend in the game. I dont really see the need to joke about it or to falsely claim you will sell your xbox on ebay. Be a better poster.

I don't have a problem if you think it was lame and that's ok. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe not. For me it's still marketing and i don't like a post like this, when it's coming from a marketing guy like Phil Spencer.

But the post about selling my Xbox was dead serious btw :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:.
 
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DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
I don't have a problem if you think it was lame and that's ok. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe not. For me it's still marketing and i don't like a post like this, when it's coming from a marketing guy like Phil Spencer.

But the post about selling my Xbox was dead serious btw :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:.

Ok ... you played one game for 3 minutes and decided to sell your whole console. If that is true then ya, that's strange.
 

betrayal

Banned
Ok ... you played one game for 3 minutes and decided to sell your whole console. If that is true then ya, that's strange.

FH4 was the only game i really enjoyed during the last 12 months or so. Crackdown 3 was just the final nail in the coffin, because i just don't like it, even if it was on of the main(!) reasons i bought a Xbox One X a year ago. I'm just very disappointed with this game, because it's mediocre in every single imaginable way while at the same time having so much potential. Besides that we're probably about 1 year away before a new console generation will be released. So it's a good point in time to sell it anyway.
 
I don't have a problem if you think it was lame and that's ok. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe not. For me it's still marketing and i don't like a post like this, when it's coming from a marketing guy like Phil Spencer.

But the post about selling my Xbox was dead serious btw :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:.
Phil is a human being. I'm sure he's made real life friends along the way. To suggest otherwise is extremely disingenuous and heartless.
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
FH4 was the only game i really enjoyed during the last 12 months or so. Crackdown 3 was just the final nail in the coffin, because i just don't like it, even if it was on of the main(!) reasons i bought a Xbox One X a year ago. I'm just very disappointed with this game, because it's mediocre in every single imaginable way while at the same time having so much potential. Besides that we're probably about 1 year away before a new console generation will be released. So it's a good point in time to sell it anyway.

I appreciate your explanation and that makes a bit more sense, but if you read your original post it comes off in a trolling way. "I played the game for 3 mins and now i will sell my xbox".

But if you made your original statement the same as this one, then there would be no issues with it and no one would see it as trolling.
 
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