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[xion4360]

their screenshots are consistant with the other PS3 screens i've seen in that the PS3 seems to have lighting more akin to the PC version (and more aesthetically pleasing at least to my eyes anyway).

it could be down to selective screenshotting, but i don't think so at this point.

Its confusing.. There is practically zero difference in saturation in those comparison shots, whereas every other screenshot ive seen, including what Ive played in the demo, shows the ps3 version looking slightly blurrier and washed out.. If anything it looks to me like they are purposely picking their images to show as little difference as possible, or place in favor...and then there is the more important subject of performance.. which ultimately can swing it the other way.

 

[commedieu]

Wait, Aren't the PS3/360 versions swapped?

I thought the PS3 one had the wider fov?

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

oh man, look at the difference!

 

[Klocker]

LoT hates texture pop in and tends to focus on it a lot. In their Homefront comparison they have a similar pic but point out that they showed the 360 screen the way they did because it takes a lot longer for the texture to pop in.

Lack Of Truth?

Spoiler

install your 360 games to HDD LOT!

 

[belvedere]

Why do people use LoT as any form of evidence? Hasn't it been shown that they are often incorrect in their face-offs? Always assumed that site had a bad rep when it came to comparing games.

I think people selectively choose to regard their opinion based on convenience.

 

[Stallion Free]

What were the exe commands to fix the FOV and stop intro vids?

 

[sTaTIx]

I also find it strange that this IGN reviewer was apparently pointing the finger at the PS3 version's framerate as being significantly worse; the 360 version is routinely prone to severe framerate drops into the 15-20 fps range, and there's plenty of video evidence showing this. I've seen hours and hours of walkthrough HD footage on both versions (final build), and the framerate looked roughly equivalent, scene-for-scene. And by equivalent, I mean they were both crappy.

Its confusing.. There is practically zero difference in saturation in those comparison shots, whereas every other screenshot ive seen, including what Ive played in the demo, shows the ps3 version looking slightly blurrier and washed out.. If anything it looks to me like they are purposely picking their images to show as little difference as possible, or place in favor...and then there is the more important subject of performance.. which ultimately can swing it the other way.

All the screens and video that show the PS3 version looking "washed out" is most likely due to the capture-artist taking the PS3 footage in "Limited Range RGB." If they were to set the PS3's video output settings to "Full Range," then you'd most likely see roughly equivalent gamma and contrast levels between the PS3 and 360 versions. This has always been the case with most PS3-to-360 game comparisons.

 

[commedieu]

oh man, look at the difference!

ehh, there are some more night and day ones... like the guy laying down... and others. I don't care for LOT, but at least dont add bias to their bias.

I also find it strange that this IGN reviewer was apparently pointing the finger at the PS3 version's framerate as being significantly worse; the 360 version is routinely prone to severe framerate drops into the 15-20 fps range, and there's plenty of video evidence showing this. I've seen hours and hours of walkthrough HD footage on both versions (final build), and the framerate looked roughly equivalent, scene-for-scene. And by equivalent, I mean they were both crappy.

Yeah, that raises my eyebrows as well. At this point, everyone that played the demo's know that they both have whatever issues they have. The differences are there in both versions, but IGN is making it seem as if the PS3 is running Dig Dug. The harping on the PS3 version is the only real weird thing.

 

[StevieP]

You folks are absolutely crazy. They look about the same, the PS3 version being a bit blurrier due presumably to a slightly lower resolution. If you cared that much about IQ, you'd be playing it on a PC. Otherwise, you're comparing apples to slightly blurrier apples.

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

I played the PC version for about an hour earlier. The settings jazz is annoying but overall, it seems like a very optimized title. 2.4 Quad core, 8gb ram and a 5770. I'm playing it on my TV at 720p at very high and I'm usually rocking around 60fps.

Still, I wish I could fool around with the settings...

 

[Mrbob]

Does the PC version require a disc check? I hope not. Let me install and put the disc back on the shelf.

 

[xion4360]

I also find it strange that this IGN reviewer was apparently pointing the finger at the PS3 version's framerate as being significantly worse; the 360 version is routinely prone to severe framerate drops into the 15-20 fps range, and there's plenty of video evidence showing this. I've seen hours and hours of walkthrough HD footage on both versions (final build), and the framerate looked roughly equivalent, scene-for-scene. And by equivalent, I mean they were both crappy.

I havent heard anyone say that the framerate was flawless on 360, just better than on PS3... It certainly was in the demo.

 

[bj00rn_]

Why do people use LoT as any form of evidence? Hasn't it been shown that they are often incorrect in their face-offs? Always assumed that site had a bad rep when it came to comparing games.

Yeah, I think most of us know LOT is garbage, and that the game is for the most part almost identical on both the PS3 and the 360. But I think (again, most) people are just having a little fun finding some minor differences - Even though most of these differences isn't much defined and quantifiable, and sometimes stems from dubious sources.

 

[Jenga]

so how long until dx11 is released

 

[cyberheater]

I thought the PS3 one had the wider fov?

Clearly they are the same. Just different HUD positions.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

so how long until dx11 is released

For some reason I think if we don't see it in a month, we won't see it at all...especially if the game doesn't sell well on PC.

 

[popsicle_sundays]

Been playing PS3 version for about 2 hours now roughly, looks and runs pretty great. There was some slight slowdown early on but once the game opened up most of it seemed to disappear.

I haven't noticed any of this "blurry-ness". Running it on a 1080p monitor.

 

[Massa]

We really need a graphics comparison thread for this game, actual game impressions are completely getting lost here.

 

[abracadaver]

why is the body looking so different ?

 

[ColonelColon]

so how long until dx11 is released

 

[SeanR1221]

Why does the shotgun suck so much? I shot someone 5 times, point blank, and hit them in the face and they still killed me.

 

[sTaTIx]

I havent heard anyone say that the framerate was flawless on 360, just better than on PS3... It certainly was in the demo.

Certainly, I would not dispute that the framerate in the PS3 demo was worse than that of the 360 demo. However, one thing you should consider is that Crytek off-loaded development of the multiplayer mode onto Free Radical (the developers of Haze and Timesplitters); this may or may not account for the poor graphical performance of the PS3 version in multiplayer. One can surmise as to the possibility that Free Radical isn't as familiar with the engine (or its associated optimization techniques for the PS3), or are simply lesser developers than Crytek.

What's interesting is that the PS3 demo defaulted to a less-than-desirable 1080i/p upscaled mode, which could add to framerate and performance issues due to the additional software scaling overhead. Not to mention the extra scaling being done could result in a blurry overall image (poor scaling mechanism on the PS3, perhaps).

Many signs, subtle as they may be, point to Free Radical mishandling the multiplayer portion of the PS3 version.

Been playing PS3 version for about 2 hours now roughly, looks and runs pretty great. There was some slight slowdown early on but once the game opened up most of it seemed to disappear.

I haven't noticed any of this "blurry-ness". Running it on a 1080p monitor.

Quick question: Does the game default to upscaled 1080p? Or does it default to 720p?

 

[plagiarize]

Why does the shotgun suck so much? I shot someone 5 times, point blank, and hit them in the face and they still killed me.

were they using shield perhaps?

 

[Kibbles]

LoT hates texture pop in and tends to focus on it a lot. In their Homefront comparison they have a similar pic but point out that they showed the 360 screen the way they did because it takes a lot longer for the texture to pop in.

Well if you install to HDD it should fix that, shouldn't it? Also, how does the texture stream faster on PS3 if it's bluray, compared to a DVD? Or is it one of those games that forces you to install?

 

[Metroid-Squadron]

...

That's one biased post.

Let's try to balance it a little:

Things Crysis 2 does better than KZ3:

1) HDR (very good implementation).
2) 100% realtime lighting and shadowing with GI and Image Based Lighting.
3) SSAO.
4) Bokeh DOF.
5) More advanced shaders (SSS for characters, translucency for aliens, proper specular reflectivity, etc...)
6) Physics. Take a look at any Crysis 2 level, they're filled with interactive physical props. Big metal containers are also deformable.
7) Much more open levels.

All in all, both games look fantastic.

 

[xion4360]

Certainly, I would not dispute that the framerate in the PS3 demo was worse than that of the 360 demo. However, one thing you should consider is that Crytek off-loaded development of the multiplayer mode onto Free Radical (the developers of Haze and Timesplitters); this may or may not account for the poor graphical performance of the PS3 version in multiplayer. One can surmise as to the possibility that Free Radical isn't as familiar with the engine (or its associated optimization techniques for the PS3), or are simply lesser developers than Crytek.

What's interesting is that the PS3 demo defaulted to a less-than-desirable 1080i/p upscaled mode, which could add to framerate and performance issues due to the additional software scaling overhead. Not to mention the extra scaling being done could result in a blurry overall image (poor scaling mechanism on the PS3, perhaps).

Long answers aside.. Unless a game was developed with PS3 as lead platform, it will be either exactly the same or better on 360... Honestly there is no argument here.. If you have the option of either or (Consoles) and you are making a decision based on graphics, its going to be 360.

 

[Klocker]

That's one biased post.

Let's try to balance it a little:

Things Crysis 2 does better than KZ3:

1) HDR (very good implementation).
2) 100% realtime lighting and shadowing with GI and Image Based Lighting.
3) SSAO.
4) Bokeh DOF.
5) More advanced shaders (SSS for characters, translucency for aliens, proper specular reflectivity, etc...)
6) Physics. Take a look at any Crysis 2 level, they're filled with interactive physical props. Big metal containers are also deformable.
7) Much more open levels.

All in all, both games look fantastic.

Exactly.
any argument otherwise is based on preference to art.

you can not hide things in a realistic setting such as this with art as you can in a fantasy world

 

[scitek]

What were the exe commands to fix the FOV and stop intro vids?

You can open up system.cfg and add them in there.

g_skipintro = 1
cl_fov = 80
r_DrawNearFoV = 80
pl_movement.power_sprint_targetFov = 80

People want impressions of the PC version? I dunno, I'm playing it with a controller for right now because I'm being lazy, but it performs really well for me.

Phenom II @ 3.5GHz
Radeon 6950 2GB
4GB DDR3

Playing Extreme at 1080p and getting between 40-60fps. I might try limiting it to 30 later and some more messing around.

PS - I got the console to drop down, but the con_restricted and other commands don't register. Anyone know how to get them to work?

 

[ph33nix]

god damn it ups

taking fucking forever as usual

 

[styl3s]

Ran into a minor texture problem right after you kill the first alien there was graffiti on the wall and that entire wall texture vanished and when an alien ran by the texture popped back in, not a big deal i just thought it was a little odd, i would of spoiler tagged but it's not really a spoiler, game is about alien invasion

 

[Always-honest]

Ordered the 360 version. Must be a fun shooter and i'm betting it looks good enough to have some amazing moments.

I just think the tiny extra's will make it a more immersive experience than on the PS3.
Move functionality might have won me over to the ps3 side.

 

[RoboPlato]

Just picked up the PS3 version and am downloading a patch that's a little more than double what patches usually take up. Anyone know what it does?

EDIT: Also, I'm still installing but this does scale to 1080p on PS3 and not just 720p like reported in one article from the other day.

 

[SeanR1221]

were they using shield perhaps?

Maybe. I've only played 5 matches, but I feel like I die so fast.

The armor level up meter...does that give you more health as it goes up or something?

 

[Sethos]

If anyone's up for some Crysis 2 Soundtrack, I took the liberty and uploaded the lot:

01. Insertion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCGsjS3vYcU

02. Battery Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4aSZXZftQ

03. New York - Aftermath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuY0KPBBBRo

04. No Escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBnYPCsAyD4

05. Close Encounter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qp4WGLtcVE

06. SOS New York http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrnfS8K6l60

07. Chase http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a16fEMhrKaE

08. Under Assault http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmBCI1k6upU

09. Crynet - Shoot Him Down! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QinRMHhDT_E

10. Sneak and Shoot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdKESJ4QEMs

11. Gate Keepers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EkrmLF_4VY

12. Rampage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQ8ipqjva0

13. Nanosuit 2 - Crynet Systems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdk6e3yR1rE

14. Rising Spear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=621E1Zn_C08

15. Dead Man Walking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPsxEatWn8

16. Contamination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI9rhsS6aEw

17. Sinister Breed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJp7Mnv0bG8

18. Where is the Exit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUV2XdAlmb4

19. Dystopian Nightmares http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-bXgEO6ZcQ

20. Catastrophic Beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VaSxYbEvBM

21. Semper Fi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNOZgVqPtQ

22. Flooded Streets - Aquarium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om0PY79tMCc

23. In Obscurum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5vkEkwPBs

24. Devastation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQbQwEiEfgg

25. Shadowzone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFJAabTiYBw

26. Alien Suite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8JnAgF2mSw

27. Unsafe Haven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d5v8fbuOGQ

28. Terminal Escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ueZ4E9N2Fg

29. Under the Clock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIxe4-ghmd0

30. Morituri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRIz8exzTA

31. Intersection http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWN_W7_VqbE

32. Times Square Evacuation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icMtMqn8VbM

33. Burning Night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re40FqQHD1I

34. Resolution (Reprise) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH6mSBHEfhQ

35. Eye of the Storm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P11Tz_djqzI

36. New York Theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaa-yffgvIg

37. Our Only Hope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbKHFq6PW4s

38. Out of the Ashes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l57vP5BjgHA

39. Alien Logo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7B2sgEyzkc

40. The End of the Beginning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGYJVXgj2Vc

41. Walk in the Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvgxD0W52Fw

42. Epilogue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL8J4n54UU

 

[Nizz]

Just picked up the PS3 version and am downloading a patch that's a little more than double what patches usually take up. Anyone know what it does?

EDIT: Also, I'm still installing but this does scale to 1080p on PS3 and not just 720p like reported in one article from the other day.

Cool. I thought I read online people suggesting to set the PS3 at 720p so the game would look its best. I'd rather just leave it checked at 1080p.

 

[kaskade]

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/c...a-20110318172040751056/g-20090601103043632061

This is the answer to my 3d question. I was going to buy some glasses alongside motorstorm apocalypse but that's not going to happen. Looks like I'll get some with crysis.

 

[Revolutionary]

Not sure what to think of the game yet. Visually, it's very impressive for DX9 but I can't help but notice the downsides to it as well (low res textures, faux DX10/11 effects, etc.).

Gameplay-wise, I'm a little disappointed. I thought the lack of prone was a MP-only thing, not something I would have to put up with the entire game. What the fuck, man. Then, there's the fact that lean is no longer on Q and E but context based, much like what is found in Killzone - my initial thought was that it's a downside but in practice it's not as bad as I thought it would be. Lastly, the goddamn visor tells you everything you can possibly do in a given area - so much for figuring shit out for yourself. Sigh.

And last, but most certainly not least... the game itself. Why do I have to input my Serial Key EVERY SINGLE TIME I START THE GAME? What the fuck was Crytek thinking??

Sigh. It's not all bad but it certainly is a bit disappointing. On the plus side: the game runs flawlessly "maxed out" (lol whatever the fuck that means now).

 

[Patrick Bateman]

So, to people who played the PS3-version. How bad is are the frames per second?

 

[bj00rn_]

If anyone's up for some Crysis 2 Soundtrack, I took the liberty and uploaded the lot:

Oh wow, very solid soundpicture. I had to look it up, didn't know Hanz Zimmer was involved. Nice.

 

[popsicle_sundays]

Quick question: Does the game default to upscaled 1080p? Or does it default to 720p?

I don't know which is default but it's definitely upscaling to 1080p

 

[Xater]

So, to people who played the PS3-version. How bad is are the frames per second?

Now I want to know this as well. The Lens of Truth stuff finally loaded for me and the PS3 version does look pretty good. Definitely not as bad as the demo.

 

[cyberheater]

And last, but most certainly not least... the game itself. Why do I have to input my Serial Key EVERY SINGLE TIME I START THE GAME? What the fuck was Crytek thinking??

Surely not right man. Sounds like a write permissions type issue with your setup.

 

[popsicle_sundays]

Now I want to know this as well. The Lens of Truth stuff finally loaded for me and the PS3 version does look pretty good. Definitely not as bad as the demo.

It's hard to tell honestly. I noticed very early on there was a bit of slowdown but once I stepped outside lot's of that disappeared and I can't really notice much of any. My eyes aren't great to determine fps unless it's a drastic drop and I've not seen any of that.

 

[dark10x]

Still really enjoying it. Seems like an insanely long game too (there are a LOT of missions).

Honestly, the game kind of feels like a mix of Half-Life and Crysis to me and that is not a bad thing. I'm a little disappointed with story thus far as it isn't as engaging as I would have liked, but everything else is ace.

Amazed that the game simply does not drop frames on my rig. No matter what is happening, it never ever drops below 60 fps. No stuttering, hitching, drops or anything. Always flawless. Smoothest PC game I've played in a while. At the very least, there are often tiny little drops here and there in PC games that I've just learned to live with. Nothing like that here. Even when the screen is full of alpha effects and particles, it holds 60 fps.

You can open up system.cfg and add them in there.

g_skipintro = 1
cl_fov = 80
r_DrawNearFoV = 80
pl_movement.power_sprint_targetFov = 80

People want impressions of the PC version? I dunno, I'm playing it with a controller for right now because I'm being lazy, but it performs really well for me.

Phenom II @ 3.5GHz
Radeon 6950 2GB
4GB DDR3

Playing Extreme at 1080p and getting between 40-60fps. I might try limiting it to 30 later and some more messing around.

PS - I got the console to drop down, but the con_restricted and other commands don't register. Anyone know how to get them to work?

The system.cfg file doesn't work for me. I can change the fov in game, but it does not actually read any of those settings placed in the system.cfg file.

 

[SeanR1221]

Ok, I need some multiplayer tips stat.

I'm doing terrible, and haven't had a good game yet.

I feel like everyone drops me instantly, and I need to pump so many bullets into people to kill them.

As a reference, I was doing pretty good in the beta.

 

[CyReN]

Been playing for a few hours, not a bad game at all. Graphic are amazing, gameplays not bad. I did run into a issue thought in Chapter 2 where everything cut out for a good minute:

 

[darthbob]

Been playing for a few hours, not a bad game at all. Graphic are amazing, gameplays not bad. I did run into a issue thought in Chapter 2 where everything cut out for a good minute:

That's nothing new with CryEngine 2/3, saw it happen occasionally in Warhead.

 

[belvedere]

Now I want to know this as well. The Lens of Truth stuff finally loaded for me and the PS3 version does look pretty good. Definitely not as bad as the demo.

So far it's been fine. I've been in a couple of insane firefights (4-5 soldiers on screen) with lots of cars blowing up and it bogged down for just a second. Nothing that greatly detracts from gameplay by any means.

The worst part I've seen is during the

Spoiler

tunnel chase with the armored car.

It seemed to be choppy for a good portion of the sequence.

 

[abracadaver]

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/c...a-20110318172040751056/g-20090601103043632061

This is the answer to my 3d question. I was going to buy some glasses alongside motorstorm apocalypse but that's not going to happen. Looks like I'll get some with crysis.

Yes, the 3D requires a compatible TV, but surprisingly it doesn’t require those expensive active-shutter glasses. We wore crummy-old plastic polarized glasses, and after a comparison assessment, we think Crysis 2’s 3D is miles ahead of Killzone 3’s – even with Killzone using those fancy-pants active-shutter glasses.

wtf ?
what kind of glasses you need depends on the TV and not the game

 

[Blizzard]

Still really enjoying it. Seems like an insanely long game too (there are a LOT of missions).

Honestly, the game kind of feels like a mix of Half-Life and Crysis to me and that is not a bad thing. I'm a little disappointed with story thus far as it isn't as engaging as I would have liked, but everything else is ace.

Amazed that the game simply does not drop frames on my rig. No matter what is happening, it never ever drops below 60 fps. No stuttering, hitching, drops or anything. Always flawless. Smoothest PC game I've played in a while. At the very least, there are often tiny little drops here and there in PC games that I've just learned to live with. Nothing like that here. Even when the screen is full of alpha effects and particles, it holds 60 fps.


The system.cfg file doesn't work for me. I can change the fov in game, but it does not actually read any of those settings placed in the system.cfg file.

Somewhere a few pages back someone described how to do it. It involves a file that could be in two different places, and had a bunch of sample suggested settings. Sorry I don't have a link right offhand.