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[Xander51]

Playing this fresh off beating Killzone 3 and Crysis 2 looks a lot better to me. Tech side by a small margin, artistic side by a huge margin.

I also just finished Killzone 3, and I agree. Crysis 2 also has much less jarring cutscene to gameplay transitions.

 

[pixelbox]

False. HDR is more than just bloom. Using high precision values to make the lighting calculations is an absolute MUST for realistic graphics. Ask any graphics programmer about it.

He stated that it was more than Bloom. Yes, HDR is many things that are put together, like GI

FarCry 2 didn't ship with GI if i recall, it was dropped. As for the MLB game, I remember an image explaining how they shade the objects in realtime, but it doesn't say anything about OBTAINING the lighting information at runtime. I could be wrong, of course.

You would have to search that out but it's full GI.

Actually, a full deferred renderer allows for less advanced shaders. Get your facts right.

Deferred rendering allows for better shading because most of the shading is done once then placed in a buffer. It is more effiecent in that reguards. MRT make for a simpler shading because it processes 1 effect per buffer. That allows for a faster, more percise render. When all of the MRT are combined, that's where you see the results.

Funnily enough, KZ3 actually does use bitmaps for a lot of its backgrounds, lol.

Have you played that Maulr level or the snow scene? No cheating there.

KZ3 is a combination of full res and quarter res buffers, C2 does them all at the same res.

They are "full res" because they are not transparent. Overdraw eats bandwidth.

No it doesn't. Plenty of surfaces use it, like concrete. Also, no need for tech euphemisms, detail mapping is simply another texture layer repeated over and over on the same surface.

2 things, 1. The detail mapping carries normal information, it's not just some texture. 2.even if there were some in C2 it's no where near as detailed.

C2's AI doesn't cheat. And what do you mean by more advanced? If anything the alien AI in C2 with its ability to freely traverse all kinds of surfaces both horizontal and vertical is pretty advanced.

The a.i. in C2 always know where you are versus KZ2/3 which uses a ray tracing method and prediction navigate and "see" where the player is.

That method is still not properly specified. The same thing you complained about previously about CE3's GI method.

The information is there.

Not really, a lot of particles in KZ2/3 go through objects.

See, that's where you're wrong unless you're referring to te clipping of larger particles like smoke which will partially clip other than that KZ2/3 has a set amount of particles to render. It will scale if it's reaching capacity and they are all designed to collide.

Characters in the screens posted appear to use SSS. Translucency IS a shader effect, look at the aliens upclose.

Yes, i am aware of what transparences are. I'm saying it's nothing special. And just because it appears to have SSS doesn't mean it is.

 

[Dennis]

oh gawd that crosshair is HUGE

please tell me you can turn it off?

How about Delta difficulty?

 

[scitek]

460 1 gb I get 30-60 fps depending on scene. Triple-buffered makes the fps drops far less obvious.

Was going to say, this game is even more impressive considering how well it runs while looking like it does. Pretty incredible job by Crytek.

 

[pixelbox]

Yeah really. I mean WTF at this:



How the hell can something look better than it looks? Definitely a sign you've run out of arguments to try to make.

I hope some mod ends up making Killzone-related discussion in this thread a bannable offense. So far, it has only been used as the object of pathetic fanboy console warz bullshit, and the quality of this thread would be immensely improved without that going on.

I forgot, i'm on the internet. Using real life refrences is a nice cheap easy way of making lighting look more complex than it is. Sort of like GT3,4,5 where they took snap shots of places and used them in their environments.

 

[x3sphere]

oh gawd that crosshair is HUGE

please tell me you can turn it off?

How about Delta difficulty?

You can turn it off, it's an option in the menu. I should probably do that

 

[scently]

What's the best youtube video showing off the graphics on the 360 version?

My friend doesn't believe me how good this game looks.

Also, how do you do spot assists in multiplayer?

Show him this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivKWirxUSeg

 

[FlyinJ]

BTW - Bestbuy is running a great deal for console versions of Crysis 2:

If you buy Crysis 2, you get a $10 gift card. And, if you buy Dragon Age 2, Fifa11, Fight Night, Bulletstorm or one other EA game I can't remember at the same time, you get $20 off of that.

I didn't go for the $20 off EA games as I already had the ones I wanted, but I used the gift card immediately to purchase the already $20 discounted Yakuza 4 for $30.

 

[Dennis]

You can turn it off, it's an option in the menu. I should probably do that

hallelujah

 

[PaddyOCanager]

Hmm, I just bought the game off Steam and three seconds into the download AVG said one of the files had a virus. Hope everything is ok....

Wasn't going to buy this right away but I like the impressions so far. I loved Crysis/Warhead, so hopefully this is just as fun.

I also second the idea for a Crysis 2 PC Tweaks thread. My comp isn't top of the line and I'd like help getting the game to run the best.

 

[Nabs]

It's time to replace AVG with something better

 

[jackdoe]

BTW - Bestbuy is running a great deal for console versions of Crysis 2:

If you buy Crysis 2, you get a $10 gift card. And, if you buy Dragon Age 2, Fifa11, Fight Night, Bulletstorm or one other EA game I can't remember at the same time, you get $20 off of that.

I didn't go for the $20 off EA games as I already had the ones I wanted, but I used the gift card immediately to purchase the already $20 discounted Yakuza 4 for $30.

IF the deal had included Bulletstorm PC, then I'd jump on it immediately. Sadly, it is only Bulletstorm consoles.

 

[Man]

It's time to replace AVG with something better

 

[Stallion Free]

hallelujah

I was delighted when I saw the option in the demo. It ruins the immersion.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

AVG's had a lot of problems recently with games being incorrectly detected as viruses. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

 

[Sethos]

You can turn it off, it's an option in the menu. I should probably do that

Can you change just the size? I don't want it off, just not as big as house.

 

[canadian crowe]

Multiplayer (PS3) is pretty fun. I'm glad I didn't let the beta dissuade me from getting the game. I actually got into my first game in about 2 seconds. Games were full too!

 

[FoxSpirit]

So another case of fail demo but great game?

I wonder why companies do that to themselves. *facepalm*

Now get us DX11 for some real pr0n.

 

[jetjevons]

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/c...a-20110318172040751056/g-20090601103043632061

This is the answer to my 3d question. I was going to buy some glasses alongside motorstorm apocalypse but that's not going to happen. Looks like I'll get some with crysis.

Wait Crysis 2 3D doesn't take advantage of active shutter glasses?

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

The ps3 version is disappointing. It looks like the Chronicles of Riddick. It's got this grainy filter all over it.

 

[THRILLH0]

fhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUIrbmMTxAo Digital Foundry Cod4 fps analysis.

Wow, are those 'Digital Foundry' interstitials every 20 seconds present in every video they do?

If so that's just obnoxious.

 

[DeadRockstar]

Hmm, nobody with the PC version is hating on the game. Might just pick it up now then, on the assumption that the game's good enough to play through again when DX11 drops.

 

[petethepanda]

I'm wondering if they're ever going to fix the f'd MyCrysis login issue. Nobody has gotten responses from support yet. I can't believe they didn't fix this back when the demo was out.

 

[SapientWolf]

So another case of fail demo but great game?

I wonder why companies do that to themselves. *facepalm*

Now get us DX11 for some real pr0n.

I pretty much bought Cry2 solely because of the MP demo. I don't day 1 for single player. That's what Steam sales are for. But Cry2's online mode might be a ghost town when Rage, BF3, and the next CoD drop in the fall.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

wow pc version runs great. After all the alk about graphics .....man the game actually plays great.

 

[cyberheater]

Wait Crysis 2 3D doesn't take advantage of active shutter glasses?

It must do. Gamesradar must have got there wires crossed or were playing the game on the devs parallax polarising display and didn't know it.

 

[Shurs]

Playing on Soldier difficulty level, the AI is a joke.

Other than that, I'm really digging it so far.

I really enjoy the multiple approaches you can take.

I prefer to play stealthily.

 

[Technosteve]

PC GRAPHICS WHORES should i buy now or wait till DX10/11 patch comes out =/ game looks more orange while the Crysis 1 looked more green.

 

[BattleMonkey]

arg what the hell, steam download of this was at like 25% and it restarted for no reason to 0%. Gimme now!

 

[markao]

Any of the PCers, how is the response/feel of the mouse (felt weird in the demo) and any options ( I know ) in the menus to alter it, if needed?


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[kamspy]

I've seen, I've came all over my keyboard.

275 GTX
4 GB RAM
AMD 955x4


30+ fps on extreme, 1920 x 1080. Runs better than Crysis 1 and Warhead.

I can't stop cumming.

 

[raphier]

PC GRAPHICS WHORES should i buy now or wait till DX10/11 patch comes out =/ game looks more orange while the Crysis 1 looked more green.

WAIT! We don't even know whether we're getting the patch yet 100%

 

[smik]

to the people that have it


is the Classic mode with no nanosuits in the online playlist? if so, whats the impressions

 

[Sethos]

to the people that have it


is the Classic mode with no nanosuits in the online playlist? if so, whats the impressions

Shh, don't speak of it around here, you'll upset the GafMachine >.>

 

[Zeliard]

Probably going to spring on this when the first sale comes about, which shouldn't be in too much time.

Having said that, man, it is strange days. From the patch notes:

"Remove Auto Aim - This has now been completely removed due to overwhelming community feedback"

A former PC-exclusive dev now apparently needs "overwhelming community feedback" to remove the option for auto-aim from their PC shooter with multiplayer.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

So judging by the lens of truth comparisons, the ps3 version is clearer with better textures (closeup of that one guy tells me this)? But with a choppier framerate? Asking because my brother is interested in the ps3 version.

 

[Matrix]

Wow they modeled my dads building that he designed irl into the game. 17th State Street... Fuck so cool seeing it in the game when you first open the doors to the outside, never seen it in a game before. I was like :O and :O at the insane graphics.

 

[LaserBuddha]

PC GRAPHICS WHORES should i buy now or wait till DX10/11 patch comes out =/ game looks more orange while the Crysis 1 looked more green.

Why wait? Even with DX9, it looks better than almost any other PC game that came before.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The lighting is definitely the biggest improvement. I can still see this sort of blur like the AA is getting in the way of some of these PC shots.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Any of the PCers, how is the response/feel of the mouse (felt weird in the demo) and any options ( I know ) in the menus to alter it, if needed?


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I've been trying to get an answer on how the mouse feels for a few pages now.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

nat type for some reason is moderate. wtf?! anyone else on pc getting this problem?

 

[Klocker]

So judging by the lens of truth comparisons, the ps3 version is clearer with better textures (closeup of that one guy tells me this)? But with a choppier framerate? Asking because my brother is interested in the ps3 version.

Can not speak for the PS3 frame rate but my 360 textures of that face when actually playing it looked better than the LOT pics. For whatever reason.

Game looks phenomenal

 

[yuna55]

So judging by the lens of truth comparisons, the ps3 version is clearer with better textures (closeup of that one guy tells me this)? But with a choppier framerate? Asking because my brother is interested in the ps3 version.

There are other direct-feed captures where there's no texture pop-in in the 360 version. It's assumed to be caused by the 360 version not being installed in the LOT comparison.

Other than LOT, we have nothing but speculative fiction being regurgitated by the usual tourists.

 

[Dennis]

So, to the people with the PC version:

does it have the best graphics of any PC game ever?

 

[kamspy]

Probably going to spring on this when the first sale comes about, which shouldn't be in too much time.

Having said that, man, it is strange days. From the patch notes:

"Remove Auto Aim - This has now been completely removed due to overwhelming community feedback"

A former PC-exclusive dev now apparently needs "overwhelming community feedback" to remove the option for auto-aim from their PC shooter with multiplayer.

I actually know a hardcore PC gamer who is pissed when the MP doesn't support auto aim when using a controller. Comfy couch etc.

I have no beef with there being an option, but forced auto aim can fuck off.

So, to the people with the PC version:

does it have the best graphics of any PC game ever?

Yes.

 

[Soma]

Multiplayer (PS3) is pretty fun. I'm glad I didn't let the beta dissuade me from getting the game. I actually got into my first game in about 2 seconds. Games were full too!

That's good to hear. How does the frame-rate hold up?

 

[Kabuki Waq]

So, to the people with the PC version:

does it have the best graphics of any PC game ever?

when you count all the effects and how smooth it runs YES (IMO). Never doubt Crytek I guess.

Gameplay is ace so far too.

 

[x3sphere]

Can you change just the size? I don't want it off, just not as big as house.

Unfortunately, no. It's all or nothing. Maybe you can by manually editing the config files, but I haven't looked into that yet.

 

[Tom Penny]

Is every PS3 version limited edition...I know that makes no sense but that's what they gave me at gamespot. Hopefully the game isn't too shabby. The MP demo was pretty bad.

 

[sleepykyo]

Its arguably the most impressive technical achievement from a thrid party on the PS3, it in no way deserves the tag of "crappy port."

Strange I don't remember Dead Rising 2 getting so much kindness from you. I just remember reading about how abyssmal the frame rate was. And that is a slow paced game where the frame rate isn't really a huge issue.

In regards to the PS3 it arugably has a lot under the hood, but that lot came of out the image quality, and more importantly, the playability. Or is the frame rate in Crysis 2 really supposed to less of a playablity issue than in Dead Rising 2?

What term should be given to the overly ambitious PS3 games that threw out performance to be a better tech demo?

edit: @Tom Penny Don't think limited edition means limited in that sense. More like first print run, just like movies where the standard edition is now special edition.