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Crysis 2 |OT| This is what happens Larry...
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Barack Lesnar
Banned
I didn't say there weren't corridors. They're spliced in there but the mini sandboxes are huge, allowing just as much freedom and open-ended gameplay as the original.MickeyKnox said:
I'm beginning to think people completely erase the second half of Crysis and the entirety of Warhead from their minds when discussing linearity.
I've played a few hours on PS3 and I'm really digging it so far. The first few chapters don't give the best impression. They have some pretty bad framerate issues and your suit powers aren't all available until after you've done the tutorial for each of them. Thankfully, as the game goes on a few chapters it starts to run smoother and the suit powers click. That's when the game really starts to pick up. The arenas are pretty wide open in some spots and there are a lot of options. The size may not be as big as Crysis but there's certainly enough room for the same amount of improvisation. The suit upgrades so far have also made a pretty noticeable difference.
The atmosphere in the game is fantastic. I was honestly surprised at how much you get to see the civilians in the midst of everything. It really makes it feel like a situation where people are actually involved, as opposed to the military being the only thing around. The lighting touches are pretty great, especially indoors, and the soundtrack is great.
The atmosphere in the game is fantastic. I was honestly surprised at how much you get to see the civilians in the midst of everything. It really makes it feel like a situation where people are actually involved, as opposed to the military being the only thing around. The lighting touches are pretty great, especially indoors, and the soundtrack is great.
Windom Earle
Member
Heavy said:
Crysis 1 = Deserts
Crysis 2 = Mini Sandboxes
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Not really. The environments aren't as big as the original, but nowhere near as bad as people are making them out to be. Very open, large areas that also have a vertical aspect that was lacking in the original. We're comparing a beach/jungle to a metropolitan city. Seriously, it's fine.schennmu said:
Outtrigger888
Member
jetjevons said:
Yes it does, can anyone give impressions of 3d
jetjevons said:
The framerates are within a 2-3 frames per second differences it appears. Both are boggy horse ass when the engine gets demanding, and as far as feature to feature, the PS3 code seems to have better 'technical' graphical features. Just take a look at the head to head to see which version the other is missing.
Toss up, whomever you have more friends with online, but neither runs a solid 30fps online or off. If thats *REALLY* your deciding factor. The game doesn't run smooth.
-bakalhau-
Member
I wish they would've left some kind of... Minimal auto aim on multiplayer. I come from a console background but I felt like I was cheating owning KB&M players on the demo. But absolutely no auto aim doesn't satisfy me, because my camera will be all over the place now. I don't demand console level auto-aim, ala CoD or Halo, or how it was on the demo, but I would love if they'd give me a little assist with my right stick. I'd still have to carefully aim to actually kill someone.
It kinda sucks because I have a gaming PC - I want this title on nothing but my PC for obvious reasons, it's kinda tough to swallow that you have a fantastic controller support for single player, and it's now useless on multi. I don't have the money to get the game for my 360 - and if I own the PC version I don't want to deal with the inferior IQ on the console.
It's more wishful thinking instead of a complaint, because I liked the multiplayer, but I absolutely understand their decision to remove it.
It kinda sucks because I have a gaming PC - I want this title on nothing but my PC for obvious reasons, it's kinda tough to swallow that you have a fantastic controller support for single player, and it's now useless on multi. I don't have the money to get the game for my 360 - and if I own the PC version I don't want to deal with the inferior IQ on the console.
It's more wishful thinking instead of a complaint, because I liked the multiplayer, but I absolutely understand their decision to remove it.
LaserBuddha
Member
theignoramus
Member
Anyway, this game is impressive. It's equally impressive as Metro 33 and Crysis vanilla, you ask me. A texture pack and Dx11 effects should give it the final nudge above the pack. But as of right now, it's definitely among the top three or four best looking PC shooters. (and fuck off with BF3, it's not even out yet)
So, yeah, I hope the AI got brutalized in reviews.
In the part on the pier right after FDR Street:
I was sniping soldiers and, one by one, I'd kill a guy, another soldier would run to the exact same spot, I'd shoot him, another soldier would run out to the exact same spot, I'd shoot him...
I piled up four or five soldiers' corpses in the exact same spot.
I've also run into a lot of spots where soldiers would ignore the gunfight that was happening mere feet from them and also guys running in place, head against the wall.
In the part on the pier right after FDR Street:
I was sniping soldiers and, one by one, I'd kill a guy, another soldier would run to the exact same spot, I'd shoot him, another soldier would run out to the exact same spot, I'd shoot him...
I piled up four or five soldiers' corpses in the exact same spot.
I've also run into a lot of spots where soldiers would ignore the gunfight that was happening mere feet from them and also guys running in place, head against the wall.
Outtrigger888
Member
nib95 said:
The blockbuster action game will be the first major video game on multiple platforms to take full advantage of true stereoscopic 3D
Thats a quote from crytek
LaserBuddha
Member
Dreohboy said:
In life, as well as Crysis.
LaserBuddha
Member
Shurs said:
To be fair to the sequel, enemies in Crysis 1 would do this if you stayed undetected.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
HDR doesn't necessarily use GI, actually.pixelbox said:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/02/19/mlb-09-the-show-–-lighting-explained/pixelbox said:
Yeah, seems on par with C2's method. Though it's irrelevant for this discussion since KZ2/3 don't use it.
This post explains it nicely:pixelbox said:
http://graphicrants.blogspot.com/2008/08/deferred-rendering.html
Crytek's renderer is not fully deferred, and therefore not subject to the same limitations as exemplified by the plethora of different materials shown in the game (SSS, translucency, anisotropic specular, etc...)
They talk about energy preservation as well, something pretty new even by offline standards.
From the "Reaching the speed of light" presentation. A recommended read.
http://www.crytek.com/cryengine/presentations
Not on that level, no.pixelbox said:
Full res > Quarter respixelbox said:
1) As you're quick to point out, that's nothing new. Even Gears of War 1 used that "technique" (just another texture layer) back in 2006.pixelbox said:
2) Detail layers usually use very low res textures since they're tiling is very high frequency. However, in the case of KZ3, the base textures (the ones that are supposed to be so high-res) are nothing to write home about:
http://i.imgur.com/oiaSd.jpg
Just look at his jacket pocket. Pixelation FTL.
False. They simply have a good sensorial system. They're not like metal gear NPCs that can't see beyond 3 feet in front of them. They can see you from afar (as long as you're in their field of view) and can hear your actions, like running or shooting.pixelbox said:
Raytracing LMAO. You mean "raycasting". They also use waypoints for navigation (pretty common, C2 use them as well)pixelbox said:
http://sijm.ca/2009/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/michiel-van-der-leeuw.pdf
That doesn't cause clipping. Maybe if they don't use soft particles, though.pixelbox said:
Transparency =! Translucency.pixelbox said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_and_translucency
Again, look properly at the aliens flesh. If somebody can post some picture it would be appreciated.
Christ on a cracker, damn man Crytek just made the best looking console game i've played yet. Fricken amazing.
And for what its worth, that Lens of Truth article is confirmed bullshit. Many of the images of low resolution textures or a "missing" lighting effect are completely present in the 360 version im playing. In fact i havent noticed a time they werent there (i installed game to HD), so im wondering how they got the pictures.
And for what its worth, that Lens of Truth article is confirmed bullshit. Many of the images of low resolution textures or a "missing" lighting effect are completely present in the 360 version im playing. In fact i havent noticed a time they werent there (i installed game to HD), so im wondering how they got the pictures.
-bakalhau- said:
Yeah. pisses me off that I've gotta buy two copies of the game to enjoy it the right way (no one will convince me a keyboard is a more enjoyable input device for ME to use)...but, I'm going to buy two copies.
PC version for single player.
PS3 and it's janky DS3 controller for multi.
LaserBuddha
Member
Shurs said:
I think the enemies in the original Crysis could probably read better than you.
Outtrigger888 said:
Sounds like a lie then, unless something changed. But I was under the impression even the retail copies use S3D and not stereoscopic 3D.
To give you an example of the difference.
It's not as costly nearly as costly on hardware, but you don't get the same level of depth and dimension either.
theignoramus
Member
lol, at the console wars in here. If you care about graphics that much, just buy a pc. Anyway, C2's version of "Delta" will be fucking awesome. Even playing on the difficulty below that yields tense firefights.
LaserBuddha
Member
Shurs said:
I'm saying that I was only referring to the behavior in the text that I quoted. You responded with such a ridiculous straw man that I'm shocked to now see that you were serious.
LaserBuddha said:
In the specific instance I was speaking of, the AI was certainly acting dumb.
The monster closet reference was to the door from which the soldiers ran, down the same path, to the same spot, to die the exact same way as their comrades.
How was I constructing a straw man?
MickeyKnox
Member
They are not "mini-sandboxes" they are arenas, and let's not re-imagine history here, Crysis went linear for the last act of the game not half of it, and it was always the weakest element in that game. Warhead was somewhere in between the two designs but apart from the fucking mines, was still much more open than this game.Heavy said:
If anything this is more like Killzone 2 than Warhead.
popsicle_sundays
Member
Tom Penny said:
Looks and runs great, don't need to stress over it.
-bakalhau-
Member
Dreohboy said:
Reminds me of Bioshock 2 PC, although I do understand Crysis' situation. When you have a feature that's nowadays becoming standard, you don't take it away in the sequel. I mean, you gave this game that thousands of players enjoyed on a controller (Bioshock had great support for the 360 pad), only to strip the sequel of that same support, leaving those thousands of gamers with their pants down. How can you even do such a thing? That's crapping on your customer. I was baffled by that.
Crysis 2 was set to support the controller from the very start. Crysis 1 has a great support already, although not as seamless as Bioshock, but when problems arose, they came across a way to fix it - they didn't remove the entire support altogether because of multiplayer, they removed auto-aim - and kept the singleplayer intact. Bioshock 2 had multiplayer, and so the developers thought it was brilliant to remove all controller support on a game that people bought almost exclusively for singleplayer.
This is a rant on Bioshock 2, no Crysis so hum yeah... /offtopic
