Uncharted is a technical marvel, but the gameplay in that series is average at best. The shooting mechanics are weak, the platforming an afterthought, and the puzzles insultingly simple. Nice to show off an HDTV with in 2009, though.
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Crysis 3 |OT| 1. Nomad / 1.5 Psycho / 2. ??? / 3. Prophet
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Uncharted is a technical marvel, but the gameplay in that series is average at best. The shooting mechanics are weak, the platforming an afterthought, and the puzzles insultingly simple. Nice to show off an HDTV with in 2009, though.
I actually think they do incredible work with their first person cutscenes...but the actual stories being told are quite awful.
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Deleted member 22576
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The "raptor field" section was pretty mind blowing, it was terrifying in spite of itself. Those enemies look soooooooo stupid, but having them pop out of the grass was terrifying. That was truly some next generation stuff. That type of tension just wouldn't have been possible without the density of that grass. I need to open up the fov though, I'm about to play another sitting. Overall the world just isn't interactive enoughm it's so weird to be walking around this area with such a high level of visual fidelity but it still feels so lifeless.
vasametropolis
Member
It's somewhere in the middle. Some missions are more Crysis 2 style, and some are more open. But yeah, it's a more expanded Crysis 2.
I wasn't really a huge fan of this approach. I may get killed, but I thought Crysis 2 was a more exciting (better) game as a result of the decisions it made. I completely understand the appeal of the first game, but I didn't play it until after finishing C2. As well, after playing FC3 I really had no desire for the open style as I thought it nailed it.
Anyways, Crysis 3 was alright I guess. Raptor field-style mission was actually pretty intense, but the back half of the game was quite dull to me. The grass technology really helped, but the environments got incredibly stale by the end, despite all being their own thing. Artistically they were all too similar for me.
Thanks.
I think I will wait for a sale on this game, there are like 5 or 6 other games coming in March that I want so this one is going to have to wait till another time.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
Wow, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Uncharted 2 didn't win all those GOTY awards because it had average at best gameplay.
Also since the DF article still isn't posted yet, can someone post the major differences between the PS3/360 versions?
mr stroke
Member
Just finished the game and what a let down. Graphics, sound design, and score-10/10. Everything else was average at best-Terrible level design, linear levels, incoherent story and all around boring(half the game is running past enemies cloaked). Its too bad as Crysis 1 is one of my favorite games of all time.
OnTheFly tool.
Bind keys for custom graphics settings, enable/disable HUD, change DOF quality, change weapon FOV and slowmotion.
http://maldotex.blogspot.com/2013/02/maldo-onthefly-for-crysis-3.html
Bind keys for custom graphics settings, enable/disable HUD, change DOF quality, change weapon FOV and slowmotion.
http://maldotex.blogspot.com/2013/02/maldo-onthefly-for-crysis-3.html
You're right, I've only played them, I don't know what I'm talking about. I'll listen to other people instead from now on.
Playing half the game cloaked and running past enemies was all you. Be more creative.
Fucking awesome. Thanks MaLDo!
WTF?! You are calling game boring, because You were skipping encounters?
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@Maldo
Grats, that they allowed You to publish that
JohnnySasaki86
Member
UC2 was revolutionary for this generation with its gameplay. "Set pieces" was never done the way they were done in UC2 before that game existed(see falling hotel and train level). Look at all the games that ended up copies this gameplay mechanic! Its probably was my number 1 game this gen, but it also has universal acclaim on gaf too. To say its gameplay was average is just so off base and false it's ridiculous.
Awesome! Do you have a breakdown anywhere of what you changed in the settings for the low, recommended and ultra quality presets that you used?
Maldo, is there a way to have your Ultra settings start, but to also have Game Effects on Very High and 16xAF? I'm going to get tired of having to change those every time I start the game. Regardless, I don't know what you tweaked specifically, but I'm getting another 7-8 fps at 1440p and it still looks awesome.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
Not sure if I'd call this a bug (as the STEAM Overlay doesn't really work all that well with Crysis 3 anyways) but if you use STEAM to launch Crysis 3 to get the overlay, if you bring up the overlay while running your tool you can't close the overlay nor select anything on it.
There is nothing revolutionary about scripted set pieces. Halo 3 did a huge scripted set piece with 3 scarabs that was far larger in scale than anything in UC3. The only reason Uncharted stood out is because itlooked good.
And the fact that it's gameplay mechanic is copied generally means that its awful. Look at the way COD has single handedly destroyed the FPS genre.
There is no game that has universal acclaim on GAF. Uncharted is most certainly not one of them.
Winterblink
Member
Finished this one tonight, 9 hours in total, on whatever it refers to as the "normal" difficulty.
Otherwise, enjoyed the campaign overall. On to multiplayer then
As much as I normally enjoy end sequences, this one had a ton of potential but squandered it by liberally dusting the battlefield with I WIN buttons. By that I mean it was way way way too easy to just use those alien battery things to keep your suit persistently overcharged. You could just storm through it with a reaper cannon that never runs out of ammo and armor that doesn't deplete, the only challenge being the final boss's very occasional insta-death attacks.
Otherwise, enjoyed the campaign overall. On to multiplayer then
AgentOtaku
Member
9 Hours eh?
How did you play?
How did you play?
WTF?! You are calling game boring, because You were skipping encounters?
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@Maldo
Grats, that they allowed You to publish that
Once you are "spotted" the AI just seems to spam you from everywhere though so cloak is the only way to go.
It feels like the game is running through tighter corridors than Crysis 2 as well, its very claustrophobic.
mr stroke
Member
+1
Had the weapons, AI, and level layout been more interesting(Crysis 1) I would have engaged in more combat. The majority of the combat is either cheap or boring thus turning to cloak seemed like the only way to get past most levels.
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The graphics are unfuckingbelievable.
Open autoexec.cfg and add a new line for ultra preset this way
****...
****...
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exec maldo.cfg
exec maldo_ultra.cfg
No, if someone doesnt see You, he doesnt see You and engage You. Of course if You pin down someone, he will call for help. What did You except? AI is very fair [except guys behind machine guns].
And how it is claustrophobic? o_0 Areas are much bigger than they were in C2.
Yeah I got a BSOD and several crashes when I tried it, though i was on ATI at the time.
Finished it last night, enjoyed it. There's just something I can't put my finger on, I want to like these games more than I do but somehow they feel... for the lack of a better word inhibited. Also I'd sacrifice a lot of Crysis if they could just have some believable A.I, somehow the soldiers you meet appear more dumb than anything I've played in modern shooters.
Winterblink
Member
Assuming you're replying to me.
I did a mix of some stealth and some aggressive tactics, plus I'm one of those guys that will explore areas a bit to find upgrades and make sure my ammo's all stocked up for the next asskicking. I was definitely not speed running, but other than the exploration I wasn't moving at a snail's pace either.
I probably also stopped to take screenshots a lot.
I've made two new slow motion test videos
720p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl1hMbpY-bs
1080p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWeq_JOVJhk
720p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl1hMbpY-bs
1080p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWeq_JOVJhk
How can you praise Crysis 1 just after admitting to running through Crysis 3 cloaked??
As for my opinion, the gameplay variety (thanks to more interactive environments) in the first game puts only slightly above the 3rd. 2nd entry is faaaaaar behind them. If Crysis would increase enemy variety, density, and means of attack....it would easily be in my top 5 fps campaigns of all time.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
You give some people a sandbox, they create a sandcastle. You give one to others, they dig themselves a hole. /oversimplified post with a nice ring to it.
It doesn't help either that the enemy density is just so low and they rarely throw more than one enemy type at you at once.
Seriously, all someone has to do is rejig the enemy placement, making use of some of the weirdly empty areas of each level, and increase the difficulty, and it would be every bit as enjoyable as C2.
As is, beside the areas set in a sunny New York, the game was a bit of a disappointment. I still absolutely enjoyed it and I'll take average Crysis over almost any other FPS, but it's just frustrating to see how much wasted opportunity there was.
He is in a cut scene after the credits roll but I am not sure if it takes place after the end of the game or not.
Snkfanatic
Banned
I get a lot of that "rushed development" feeling from this game. I still like it better than 2, but that comes down to there being way more sandboxy environments. The only one I liked replaying a lot in the second game was The Gate Keepers, and it was still pretty small.
SniperHunter
Banned
I don't like how this game handles weapon management, there are too many guns and you can only carry one pfftt. I didn't like Resistance 3 that much but the weapon wheel in that game was such a good design.
It looks that i'm defending this game non-stop, but i cant really understand complains about AI, because its very good, probably the best in any fps i've played.
I think the AI's pretty good on SuperSoldier. It does act derpy every now and then, but that's purely down to the open environments. They sure like to spam those EMP grenades, though.
iNvid02
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Elsewhere, two frightened CELL troopers and three frazzled men hurriedly retreat down a corridor. They are being attacked and pursued by an unknown enemy accompanied by strange sounds. It is revealed that the three men comprise the CELL board of directors. A door closes without incident. The Cell troopers turn around and are shot. The three nervous men turn to find Michael sitting at a desk. He claims to have had spent some time at one of their hospitals, and he wants to file a complaint.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Awesome thanks for this. I will have to watch when I beat it again.