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Path tracing? What is that some sort of ultimate ray tracing mode? Why is it decimating framerates?
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Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis Review (Raster / Ray Tracing / Path Tracing)
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I was initially pretty pissed that it was an open world game but then I played it and it scratched the Deus Ex itch for me.
Bojji
Gold Member
Exactly, I didn't play original DE games (console player at the time) but loved HR and MD. Cyberpunk in missions is like DE sequel, city is just to connect things.
GHG
Gold Member
This is what I'm getting on a 4090, 5800X3D:
RT Overdrive preset, DLSS Auto, Ray Reconstruction on:
All Settings max, DLSS Quality, Ray Reconstruction off:
Going with the latter because it looks much better to my eyes and the ray reconstruction is resulting in some strange glitches/pop-in with shadows.
RT Overdrive preset, DLSS Auto, Ray Reconstruction on:
All Settings max, DLSS Quality, Ray Reconstruction off:
Going with the latter because it looks much better to my eyes and the ray reconstruction is resulting in some strange glitches/pop-in with shadows.
Roni
Member
Using a 10900K, 32Gb of RAM and a 3080Ti. Noticed High Crowd Density caps my framerate at around 43 due to CPU bottleneck, no matter the settings. Since my religion doesn't allow me to play with lower crowd density I went for 1440p with DLSS Quality locked at 30 FPS. It is what it is... Will play at 60 after I upgrade in a few years.
Mitsurugi Reiji
Member
Is anyone else having this flicker issue on 2.0? I have tried various RT settings and DLSS settings but issue remains. Even tried restarting.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Dont set it to Auto. GamerNexus said Auto is bugged or something. Its probably setting it to DLSS performance which at 1440p is 720p internal resolution.My results seem too high, 166fps benchmark maxed out with DLSS/FG/Path Tracing at 1440p and with the techpowerup settings I get 86fps which is uuuuuh, over double what they have?
What did I miss?
If you dont have a 4k screen, just use DLSS quality which is 1080p. or use DLAA which is native res with frame generation.
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Ahhh right swear I keep setting it to Quality and it goes back, let's try again.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Path tracing is pretty much actual fully-fledged ray tracing. Where every ray of light in the world bounces and scatters and dissipates and reflects and refracts just like real light does.
"Ray tracing" as we have known it so far is generally much more limited. Limited to only shadows or reflections or ambient occlusion rather than actual global illumination.
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Alright run it again with DLSS quality and lowered FPS to 147fps, DLAA was 84fps.
I'm happy with that.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Deleted all my saves so quickly started as street kid to quickly get to something without having to talk to too many people heh, don't know if this helps.
Imgsli
imgsli.com
Honestly in here DLSS looks better, like shadows under objects on table? top bannister, floor?
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
There's new arcade game! So good!
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Loxus
Member
This could be true.
In another Path Tracing test, the 7900XT and 7900XTX fairs a lot better.
Loxus
Member
The 7800xt on par with the 6900xt?
Games of Today
Member
Ikr, excuse me, where is native 4K?
Games of Today
Member
Same. It's like entering a new reality. I never have to worry about graphics again and it feels strange.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Until next year
I taught the same thing with my old 3090
sendit
Member
Sold my 3090 for 800 a few days ago.Until next year
OverHeat
« generous god »
Gave my 3090 to the wife…could have sell mine last year for at least 1000$ with the ek waterblock and active backplate
nemiroff
Gold Member
Keep in mind RR doesn't really work with DLAA because Nvidia didn't do ML training on it yet.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Holy shit at some scenes. The typical denoiser fizzling is almost entirely gone, some scenes i couldn't spot it anymore, at all. Looks like a damn path tracing reference image
Total visual upgrade and even better performances
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The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Holy shit at some scenes. The typical denoiser fizzling is almost entirely gone, some scenes i couldn't spot it anymore, at all. Looks like a damn path tracing reference image
Total visual upgrade and even better performances
Sadly, it's not all good. The ghosting is horrible, a lot of reflections are worse with RR, a lot of character models look much worse, etc.
Buggy Loop
Member
Hopefully improved in future iterations, which... yea it will, but the advantages far outweigh the negatives. Just the removal of flickering, fizzling of the denoiser is a huge uplift. Overall better image quality, better performance, less VRAM usage (!).
But yea, more training on the ML to improve it further. That's the damn beauty of AI. We'll be injecting 3.5.6 or something in future and everything will look better.
Also warning to check what files you end up having for DLSS. Not sure what's happening but it can be mixed.
Possible reviewers have mixed files too? To be seen
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hollams
Gold Member
I have this with the GOG version of the game. I downloaded the 3.5 versions, but haven't tried them yet.Hopefully improved in future iterations, which... yea it will, but the advantages far outweigh the negatives. Just the removal of flickering, fizzling of the denoiser is a huge uplift. Overall better image quality, better performance, less VRAM usage (!).
But yea, more training on the ML to improve it further. That's the damn beauty of AI. We'll be injecting 3.5.6 or something in future and everything will look better.
Also warning to check what files you end up having for DLSS. Not sure what's happening but it can be mixed.
Possible reviewers have mixed files too? To be seen
geary
Member
Is DLAA a better alternative than DLSS quality on 1440 from performance PoV?
GymWolf
Gold Member
Dlaa is not for performance gain, it is just the best AA in the market.
It's dlss but without rendering from a lower resolution if i remember well, so just AI improving the iq at native resolution.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
It's a total game changer, it looks unreal. I played it for a couple of hours last night and got goose bumps more times than I dare to admit.
alucard0712_rus
Banned
Year or two ago people saying exact opposite
Games of Today
Member
Haha I'm gonna be good for a while. After I downloaded the BF 1944 mod for BFV and turning it on ultra settings, 4K, 60fps, (This is all I need framerate wise and I turned off ray tracing in this game because it has caused stutters a few time) it's like I have a brand new Battlefield game.Until next year
I'm replaying Red Dead with every setting on ultra in 1440p, 60fps (because 4K stutters with some high intensity vistas) and it's mind blowing.
I have Starfield that runs on ultra, 4K, 60fps and is so sick (outside of the loading screens lol).
And at some point I'm gonna try the updated version of Cyberpunk.
I'm set for the foreseeable future. I don't need 8K and I don't need a higher framerate than 60fps. So I'm golden right now.
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The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Hopefully improved in future iterations, which... yea it will, but the advantages far outweigh the negatives. Just the removal of flickering, fizzling of the denoiser is a huge uplift. Overall better image quality, better performance, less VRAM usage (!).
But yea, more training on the ML to improve it further. That's the damn beauty of AI. We'll be injecting 3.5.6 or something in future and everything will look better.
Also warning to check what files you end up having for DLSS. Not sure what's happening but it can be mixed.
Possible reviewers have mixed files too? To be seen
Wait what, I just checked, 3.1.1 is not the final one for nvngx_dlss? Nvidia and their naming, which is which? my nvngx_dlss.dll is also 3.1, is there a higher version?
EDIT: just checked, nvngx_dlssG is 3.1 and nvngx_dlss.dll is also 3.1 and both are the classic dlss and frame gen, the other one is prolly RR and that one is 3.5. Gonna swap them out.
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Buggy Loop
Member
As per
Topher
's post in the other thread
Cyberpunk 2077 2.0: Phantom Liberty | PC/Console Performance|Screenshots
My first run with the maxed settings
NVIDIA DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL 3.7.10 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS 3 DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support DLSS 3
NVIDIA DLSS DLL 3.7.20 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support NVIDIA's
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
As per
Cyberpunk 2077 2.0: Phantom Liberty | PC/Console Performance|Screenshots
My first run with the maxed settingswww.neogaf.com
NVIDIA DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL 3.7.10 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS 3 DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support DLSS 3www.techpowerup.com
NVIDIA DLSS DLL 3.7.20 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support NVIDIA'swww.techpowerup.com
Yeah seen it but genuinely thught it was a rare issue but turns out everyone prolly has older dlss versions.
EDIT: didnt do much, tried the DLSS tweak to change profiles but it just breaks the image since CDPR somehow hardencoded the RR in the DLSS files. So you either live with horrible character details, ghosting, shadow issues or ocasional shimmering.
EDIT2: settings dont get saved, RR keeps resetting to on, which proves my point even further, its somehow tied to DLSS/PT for some stupid reason,
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Running the game in 4k, high/ultra settings, RT reflections and close shadows on. Set dlss to auto.
Locked 60fps everywhere on a 3080 and the game looks amazing.
Granted it’s only the base game areas but the benchmark made it seem like I’ll be playing 60fps no issues like this. If I turn on RT lighting even on medium the fps tanks to 30-40. Totally not worth it.
Game looks and runs better than before for me. I can’t do dlss quality as it then puts the game to 50 fps average.
Locked 60fps everywhere on a 3080 and the game looks amazing.
Granted it’s only the base game areas but the benchmark made it seem like I’ll be playing 60fps no issues like this. If I turn on RT lighting even on medium the fps tanks to 30-40. Totally not worth it.
Game looks and runs better than before for me. I can’t do dlss quality as it then puts the game to 50 fps average.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
As soon as I loaded my save I hated the 2d-3d effect around all icons in the UI. Fortunately there is a mod that even though it hasn't technically been updated works to remove all that nonsense:
www.nexusmods.com
Purify The UI - disable annoying 2D ghosting blur and 3D perspective shader effects - No More Lens Distortion or Blurry Double Vision Interface HUD
This mod disables the 2D repeated UI effect (that looks like you're seeing double/triple/quadruple) and disables the spheric 3D effect (stretching UI to a perspective). Cyberpunk 2077 UI suffers from
www.nexusmods.com