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Cyberpunk 2077 on pc with high settings ray/path ray tracing is still graphics king!

The Cockatrice

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Time to dump some of my stuff

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I love this game. Its my favorite game of all time. I will always come back to it and Im afraid the sequel will never live up to it.
 

Fabieter

Member
Not talking about DLSS/FSR stuff. In native res 4080 is more than 3x faster than 7900XTX - while both are very comparable in raster and light RT.

If AMD don't improve PT performance SIGNIFICANTLY there is no hope IMO for it to be used in many games on PS6.

Hows the native ress comparison tho?

If its not there they shouldn't even release it until it's ready or they should go with arm but the contracts are probably set in stone already.

Yea maybe you are right and they are selling a path tracing ps6 pro console for 1.5k in 2032.
 
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Mr1999

Gold Member
It's definitely up there, but i feel like time of day has to be perfect for the game to look as good as it does. Imo it's still missing the feeling of a world being alive, though you can add more cars and pedestrians to help with that but I feel like it still comes short.
 

Mr1999

Gold Member
Also I can't help but think how 2077 would have turned out If hey kept the original aesthetics way back when they announced it. I think this decision hurt them the most. The original cyberpunk 2077 screenshots from way back looked better imo , it was gritty and had a more serious tone. In the end I think they went too cartoony which doesn't help them graphically either. This ain't the Vegas strip or Vice city...
 
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analog_future

Resident Crybaby
Nah, not true at all.

It looks great at a distance but regularly falls apart when you start looking at objects around the world up close. Character models/animations are bad more often than they're good as well.


Some shots from my PC, maxed out with PT on:

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It still oftentimes looks fantastic too, don't get me wrong, but it's been far surpassed by many games at this point.
 
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Bojji

Member
Hows the native ress comparison tho?

If its not there they shouldn't even release it until it's ready or they should go with arm but the contracts are probably set in stone already.

Yea maybe you are right and they are selling a path tracing ps6 pro console for 1.5k in 2032.

If AMD fixes PT performance with 9070XT we have bright future ahead. If not, there is still HOPE that they will fix it with UDNA (that will be used in PS6) but they will be few generations behind at this point.

Nah, not true at all.

It looks great at a distance but regularly falls apart when you start looking at objects around the world up close. Character models/animations are bad more often than they're good as well.


Some shots from my PC, maxed out with PT on:

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It still oftentimes looks fantastic too, don't get me wrong, but it's been far surpassed by many games at this point.

Every open world game has stuff like that. Games that do look better overall (Wukong, AW2...) are smaller in scale (so devs can refine stuff better).

Game also has last gen roots and that's not helping.
 

Mister Wolf

Member
Not sure why people are laughing at this post. Its the best looking game i have ever played, and i'm playing it again over Christmas so its not like my memory is off or something.
It also came first in DF's best graphics of 2023. Phantom Liberty with Path Tracing came third, and AW2 second.

They respect a city environment more than unnamed nature.
 

Mr1999

Gold Member
Not sure why people are laughing at this post. Its the best looking game i have ever played, and i'm playing it again over Christmas so its not like my memory is off or something.
It also came first in DF's best graphics of 2023. Phantom Liberty with Path Tracing came third, and AW2 second.
It's one of my favorite experiences on PC and is currently 60 percent off on steam. If they had Alice Madness returns with same team and engine that worked on this, it would look phenomenal.
 

Fabieter

Member
If AMD fixes PT performance with 9070XT we have bright future ahead. If not, there is still HOPE that they will fix it with UDNA (that will be used in PS6) but they will be few generations behind at this point.



Every open world game has stuff like that. Games that do look better overall (Wukong, AW2...) are smaller in scale (so devs can refine stuff better).

Game also has last gen roots and that's not helping.

Insane that a switch 3 could be more advanced as the ps6 if AMD can't turn around the gpu ship.
 

hinch7

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I love this game. Its my favorite game of all time. I will always come back to it and Im afraid the sequel will never live up to it.
Sadly a lot of the devs that worked in CP2077 and W3 have moved on from CDPR and instead working on their own games. Lots of ex-vets have joined to make Rebel Wolves.

Agreed though, a near perfect game as a ARPG in a cyberpunk setting as can be. Hopefully the sequel meets or exceeds expectations.
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
It's one of my favorite experiences on PC and is currently 60 percent off on steam. If they had Alice Madness returns with same team and engine that worked on this, it would look phenomenal.
It's btw also worth mentioning that it's a further 20% off (60%, plus 20% off on that) in the Ubisoft store.

Anyway, yes: CP is pretty amazing with all the bells and whistles. I also finally got HDR working pretty well (I struggled on my previous monitor, but now looking good on a QD-OLED).
 
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I jumped back into Cyberpunk over Christmas break and cleared the map for the first time.

I'm playing on an RTX 3080 10GB w/AMD Ryzen 5 5600X. Then I used a Path Tracing "optimizer" mod (1 ray + 1 bounce). Got over 60fps at 1440p, and it looked beautiful. Even restricted Path Tracing looked better to me than raster or psycho RT.

Truly an amazing accomplishment of a game--four years out from launch, that is.
 
We will see how 9070XT performs in PT, if it's still poor then IMO there is not much hope for 2027/28 console GPU to have enough power for it:

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Black Myth Wukong is probably the most demanding game I have tested. Performance with fullRT (PT) and maxed out settings is brutal, but the game is also very scalabe. With medium PT I get 123fps, that's only 4fps less (3% relative difference) compared to lumen (127fps) and the lighting even with medium PT looks amazing. Lumen is such a big disappointment from my perspective, this technology supposed to run dynamic GI much faster, but it's almost as demanding as PT while looking much worse.

BTW- I'm looking at this techpowerup benchmark chart, and the game seems to have been optimised a lot since launch. I get 103fps at 1440p DLSSQ + FG, cinematic + FullRT, that's 14fps more compared to the RTX4080 (89fps) in their test.

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>OP and everyone else: You have to play the game yourself. Pics and compressed youtube footage don’t do it justice.

Ignorant console gamer: I watched compressed youtube footage

But tell us about how HFW with its last-gen lighting is the best looking game ever.

Also the tradeoff isn’t worth it according to who? You? How do you even turn it on to measure this?

Somehow, only PC games NEED to be played to make any sort of judgment call. That's HOW ELITE THEY ARE. Meanwhile, I can easily spot amazing looking games with compressed footage. Cyberpunk doesn't impress. Not with path tracing. Not with ray tracing. The character models and environments leave a lot to be desired. But continue melting down over someone having a different opinion than you. Games aren't the sum of all the "next gen demanding features they have".

Insecure PC gamer: has to bring up a separate game to somehow prove his point and fan his inner warrior mode. Those $2500 PC GPUs come with an additional cost of turning you into a snob.

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Gaiff

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Somehow, only PC games NEED to be played to make any sort of judgment call. That's HOW ELITE THEY ARE. Meanwhile, I can easily spot amazing looking games with compressed footage. Cyberpunk doesn't impress. Not with path tracing. Not with ray tracing. The character models and environments leave a lot to be desired. But continue melting down over someone having a different opinion than you. Games aren't the sum of all the "next gen demanding features they have".

Insecure PC gamer: has to bring up a separate game to somehow prove his point and fan his inner warrior mode. Those $2500 PC GPUs come with an additional cost of turning you into a snob.

Want a crown to make you happy?

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Yet if it was a PS5 exclusive even with the same settings, you wouldn't STFU about it. As everyone else pointed out and laughed at you for, you're predictable and have absolutely no credibility when it comes to this.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Somehow, only PC games NEED to be played to make any sort of judgment call. That's HOW ELITE THEY ARE. Meanwhile, I can easily spot amazing looking games with compressed footage. Cyberpunk doesn't impress. Not with path tracing. Not with ray tracing. The character models and environments leave a lot to be desired. But continue melting down over someone having a different opinion than you. Games aren't the sum of all the "next gen demanding features they have".

Insecure PC gamer: has to bring up a separate game to somehow prove his point and fan his inner warrior mode. Those $2500 PC GPUs come with an additional cost of turning you into a snob.

Want a crown to make you happy?

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You’re in every PC thread seething and malding. Who is the insecure one here?
 


Avatar rivals it if not beats it.

Avatar is stunning, and runs super well considering what it's doing. Definitely a nice surprise last year when I picked it up. I was surprised more people aren't into it. I don't particularly have an affinity for the franchise by any stretch, but playing as a Jungle Native Ninja jumping through the trees with a buddy in co-op, setting up takedowns is a very good time. It's like a fantastical Far-Cry for better or worse with amazing graphics.

Somehow, only PC games NEED to be played to make any sort of judgment call. That's HOW ELITE THEY ARE. Meanwhile, I can easily spot amazing looking games with compressed footage. Cyberpunk doesn't impress. Not with path tracing. Not with ray tracing. The character models and environments leave a lot to be desired. But continue melting down over someone having a different opinion than you. Games aren't the sum of all the "next gen demanding features they have".

Insecure PC gamer: has to bring up a separate game to somehow prove his point and fan his inner warrior mode. Those $2500 PC GPUs come with an additional cost of turning you into a snob.

Want a crown to make you happy?

Star You Rock GIF
 
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Yet if it was a PS5 exclusive even with the same settings, you wouldn't STFU about it. As everyone else pointed out and laughed at you for, you're predictable and have absolutely no credibility when it comes to this.

Nah. It has nothing to do with "settings". That's what your ilk keep going on and on about. That's why you spend $2500 on a card so you can say you enabled a setting. The basic game is being developed with sterile NPCs, boxy repetitive environments. Path tracing won't fix that. The city of CP left a lot to be desired from what I envisioned in the initial trailers. It's just not all that interesting at the end of the day.

Mind you - I never said CP was a BAD looking game. It's just not the marvel you people worship to justify your purchasing decisions.

The Cockatrice The Cockatrice posted shots that prove my point. You're free to disagree all you want. It's not an amazing looking game to me. Sterile, boxy, repetitive art.
 
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Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nah. It has nothing to do with "settings". That's what your ilk keep going on and on about. That's why you spend $2500 on a card so you can say you enabled a setting. The basic game is being developed with sterile NPCs, boxy repetitive environments. Path tracing won't fix that. The city of CP left a lot to be desired from what I envisioned in the initial trailers. It's just not all that interesting at the end of the day.

Mind you - I never said CP was a BAD looking game. It's just not the marvel you people worship to justify your purchasing decisions.
But...

Pretty much all the Sony first party games do. I’m blown away
Look amazing to me. As does TLOU1/2, and some 2nd party like FF7R and stellar blade
It's my opinion, I think many would agree. Remedy just throw a lot of visual effects at their engine and the end result is something that really does not look pleasing or optimized, and there are many basic or lacking details in areas as a result of that.

I have never been impressed with their game's visuals.

So get this, every PS5 first-party blows you away, but Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2 are unimpressive. However, Stellar Blade looks amazing. FF7R rife with shit textures, grass and shadows that pop in within feet from the players also looks impressive. Yeah, no bias at all here.

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Zathalus

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I’m not sure how anyone without some sort of eye condition can say Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing doesn’t impress. Dislike the game? Sure. Not a fan of the style? No problem. But think the graphics (the rendering and technical design), are unimpressive? Utterly bizzare.

If you are blown away by Forbidden West and think Stellar Blade looks amazing, yet your opinion on Cyberpunk 2077 (with PT no less) is that it is graphically unimpressive, then you have a serious case of fanboyism. Because the take is so utterly ridiculous there is no defending it.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
you have a serious case of fanboyism. Because the take is so utterly ridiculous there is no defending it.
What else was it? This peon is in every PC thread crying one way or another. If it's a PS5 port to PC, he's bitching about Sony devaluing their console. If it's a PC/Xbox exclusive, he'll be sure to tell you how unimpressive it is graphically and that you need a $2500 GPU to make it look decent. If it's a sales thread about PC, he'll be there to tell you how it won't sell on PC. Yet, he'll argue to death that the 30% better performance on the Pro with PSSR is life-changing and provides an experience close to a high-end PC equipped with a 4090.

One of the most insufferable fanboys on this board. He just cannot look at anything objectively.

It's fine not to be impressed with Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2, just don't turn around and tell us fucking FF7R looks fantastic.
 
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But...





So get this, every PS5 first-party blows you away, but Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2 are unimpressive. However, Stellar Blade looks amazing. FF7R rife with shit textures, grass and shadows that pop in within feet from the players also looks impressive. Yeah, no bias at all here.

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This thread is about the "graphics king". Context matters. I am not saying CP is a bad looking game, but it's absolutely unimpressive in certain elements of its design choices that mean I don't consider it to be the "graphics king". I'd place something like the UE5 tech demo above it.

I know it's hard for you to stay on topic since you're so used to fiddling with settings and it's made you a little 80HD, but please try!

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BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
i actually love NeoGAF's personal FreeGunners. Even when faced with insurmountable evidence that they are huge bootlicking fanboys who will literally defend anything that Sony buys marketing rights for, they will double and triple down on completely absurd stances like CP2077 isn't a great looking game. It's extremely obvious that the PC ports are a very difficult pill for them to swallow so they lash out in bizarre ways.
 
i actually love NeoGAF's personal FreeGunners. Even when faced with insurmountable evidence that they are huge bootlicking fanboys who will literally defend anything that Sony buys marketing rights for, they will double and triple down on completely absurd stances like CP2077 isn't a great looking game. It's extremely obvious that the PC ports are a very difficult pill for them to swallow so they lash out in bizarre ways.

The huge bootlicking fanboys are all very present in this thread that like to dog pile posters that simply disagree with the assertion that a single game is the graphics king just because it has path tracing and can only be played on a $2500 GPU.

It's almost as if artistic direction actually matters.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The huge bootlicking fanboys are all very present in this thread that like to dog pile posters that simply disagree with the assertion that a single game is the graphics king just because it has path tracing and can only be played on a $2500 GPU.

It's almost as if artistic direction actually matters.

My system is no world beater. I only have a i5 with a 4070.

can only be played on a $2500 GPU.

I only have a i5 with a 4070.

$2500 GPU.


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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
It got the cyberpunk look down to a science. I don't see how this schmuck can complain about the art direction and call it sterile when it's one of the most visually stylized AAA games on the market.

He's trolling, don't mind him. You're just feeding his insecurities. Absolutely no common sense above average IQ genuinely thinks CP2077 looks "sterile" lmao.
 
slapping dildo propaganda around a boxy city environment with middling npcs is peak art

it's ok, I like the cyberpunk aesthetic but I don't think their realization of it is as good as it should be.

it's not nearly as stylized as you claim. the game's city does not look hand crafted enough, many of it looks derivative and plain.
 
I love console gamers who have never played the game maxed out on PC talk shit about it. It’s also worth the tradeoff if you have the hardware, but you don’t, so what do you even know?

As for OP, it’s a great-looking game, but stuff like Alan Wake 2 has decidedly surpassed it. GTA 6 should also be a cut above, especially on PC. The futuristic art direction and neon-futuristic style is wonderful though.

Lol, you shit on him and claim he doesn't know what he's talking about, then go ahead and agree with him.

Which is it?
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Lol, you shit on him and claim he doesn't know what he's talking about, then go ahead and agree with him.

Which is it?
Did you actually read his post or are you just there to argue for the hell of it? Where did I imply agreeing with this?

Looks somewhat sterile and lacks a lot of artistic vision in many places. Not bad, but GTA destroys it.

I think it's overhyped honestly. The RT stuff is very taxing and like many implementations not worth the tradeoff.

I don't think it looks sterile. I don't think it lacks artistic vision. I don't think it's overhyped. I think the RT tradeoff is worth it. I disagree with almost everything he said and you go, "bu bu but you agree with him." I even said, "the futuristic art direction looks wonderful," whereas he says it looks sterile. Did you gloss over that part?

If you wanna pull a gotcha moment, learn to read first.
 
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