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Dad forces son to skip beach trip w/ friends. All beach-bound friends die in crash.

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TheChewyWaffles

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Ignis Fatuus said:
How does this even happen? I smell an epic lawsuit.
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lol no. They were speeding and the guy driving didn't have a license. The only person at fault was the driver and anyone distracting him.

As a parent I would rather buy a car and force my kids to drive alone than let them ride with friends. Teens are crazy-ass stupid when they get in cars with other teens.
 
Riposte

Riposte

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If I was a parent I'd be more afraid of who my child gets in a car with than who he/she would have sex with.
 
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Keri

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The Abominable Snowman said:
Like I said, if the guy who was banned from going was supposed to be the driver, then the likelihood of this having similar circumstances is lower.
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Supposed to be? I highly doubt the kid driving to pick up his friend, had plans of handing over the wheel of his car. You can imagine scenarios where this crash wouldn't have happened, but none of them are more realistic or likely than the crash happening, with a sixth victim.
 
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Cromat

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That the father saved his kid is just as true as saying that him going would have prevented the crash. We humans are not equipped to deal with causality... we can't wrap our heads around it.
Pretty horrible story all around.
 
Biff

Biff

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No matter how much money I make later in life, I am not allowing my child to drive in a car with any more than 150HP until they move out.

Infinitis have 250-300HP. "Blah blah blah there are responsible teenagers out there." Yes, I'm sure that's why the best statisticians in our country employed at billion dollar mega-corp insurance companies have deemed otherwise (while operating in a free market where improperly priced rates would be arbitraged to fair value).
 
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FStop7

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Clydefrog said:
Yeah, he was about 2-3 miles north of this. I drive this road every day to work too (albeit in a Honda Fit! not a Ferrari or Infiniti).
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That's something I wanted to mention - I'm sure a Fit can do 100mph or get reasonably close enough to where hitting a tree will result in the same outcome. I've seen some mentions in this thread about the type of car the kid was driving. Speaking from experience, it's possible to end up in a crash like that in pretty much any car. Driver maturity and experience play a huge role. If you look at a graph of fatalities per 1,000 miles driven broken into age groups, the bar is sky high for the 16 - 18 range and then tapers downward until 60+ where it starts to rise again. Putting an inexperienced driver in a powerful car that inspires over confidence doesn't help, though.

ChefRamsay said:
No matter how much money I make later in life, I am not allowing my child to drive in a car with any more than 150HP until they move out.
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I'm not really disagree with you, but 150hp is more than enough to end up in a similar crash.
 
Johnny Cage In The Shower

Johnny Cage In The Shower

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People here are totally overestimating the maturity of teenagers, especially when cars and opposite sex is involved in the situation. This type of accidents happen all the time, every year in NA during long weekends where it involves, inexperienced high school kids going on camping trips with dad's Lexus, or Cadillac or BMW whatever.


This one happens to be quite tragic (five gruesome fatalities) and also happened to have a "Final destination" twist to it, thus making it bigger than just local news.
 
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Brian Griffin

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This is incredibly sad and I'm suddenly hit with the realization that I will someday have to allow my daughter to get into a car with her friends and drive away...

fuck
 
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Kangi

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I'd hate to be that kid right now. Not only feeling extremely confused because he just barely avoided a tragic death, but also mourning two of his best friends. Add a dash of survivor guilt and you have a mental breakdown waiting to happen.

Not much to say about the accident itself except for "teenagers and cars don't mix well". Still horrible, of course.

Riposte said:
If I was a parent I'd be more afraid of who my child gets in a car with than who he/she would have sex with.
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Yep. He/she can place their genitals wherever they want to place them, but I would not let them get into a single death-on-wheels unless I knew the driver well.
 
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ReturnOfTheRAT

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Johnny Cage In The Shower said:
People here are totally overestimating the maturity of teenagers, especially when cars and opposite sex is involved in the situation. This type of accidents happen all the time, every year in NA during long weekends where it involves, inexperienced high school kids going on camping trips with dad's Lexus, or Cadillac or BMW whatever.


This one happens to be quite tragic (five gruesome fatalities) and also happened to have a "Final destination" twist to it, thus making it bigger than just local news.
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It starts with the adults in their lives and I'm more than comfortable going in on them here. They should know better. The father of the surviving kid is lucky that academics were a a priority in their lives or he too would be without his son. It's a sad state of affairs that you may have to vet the kids your children hang out with, but there has to be more work done before giving the go-ahead to allow your child and and another groups of teens to go off on a "camping" trip with a unlicensed 17 year old as the driver.
 
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drexplora

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them kids was up to no good!
Tragic story, though the passengers are as guilty as the driver.
They were all friends and let each other be in that situation together.
But shit if they woulda made it one of those guys was getting lucky!
 
oneils

oneils

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Wiggler said:
I was in a car that hit a tree head on doing about 30 MPH and it totaled the entire front end. I guess it wouldn't surprise me that going any faster would completely obliterate the entire vehicle and everything and everyone inside it.
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Yeah. Immovable object and all that.

I only have grade 10 physics, which was 20 years ago so I don't know what I'm talking about
 
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Fantasmo

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drexplora said:
them kids was up to no good!
Tragic story, though the passengers are as guilty as the driver.
They were all friends and let each other be in that situation together.
But shit if they woulda made it one of those guys was getting lucky!
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YUP!

NOPE SOME KIDS ARE VERY INFLUENTIAL

NOT NECESSARILY!


And that last statement, that thought process, is why 5 kids are dead.
 
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Calamari41

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Damn, I drive past that spot all the time. Jamboree coming off of PCH is a hotbed for idiots going as fast as they possibly can due to the way the street is laid out. Its a big, wide stretch with barely any lights.

I'm honestly surprised this doesn't happen more often.

Edit: Jesus, he was going 100 mph and didn't even have a permit? What a little piece of shit. Thank god he hit a tree instead of someone's family.
 
oneils

oneils

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Conor 419 said:
Nobody was killed and nobody was saved, what happened here is tragic.

God damn do I feel bad for that kid, doubtless he wishes he died with them.
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I'm guessing he feels pretty relieved that he did not go with them.

Falcs00 said:
I don't know what's worse. Getting killed together with all your best friends, or having all your best friends get killed leaving you alone.
My mind's split.
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See above. Can't imagine wanting to die in a 100mph fireball. Sounds terrible.
 
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Dosia

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Rentahamster said:
That's a shitty way to go.

I don't know anything about the car they were driving, but is it a kind of car that is able to be reliably driven at those speeds?
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Yes. I drive my accord 85-90 every day to work on the interstate so 100 is no prob for that car. Its who is behind the wheel that matters.
 
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smurfx

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frankie_baby said:
If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five
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smh the parents who are in part responsible for this accident are the parents of the teen who let him drive without a license or permit.
 
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TheSeks

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Dosia said:
Yes. I drive my accord 85-90 every day to work on the interstate so 100 is no prob for that car. Its who is behind the wheel that matters.
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WTF, German? I don't know any Interstate that is 80 MPH to allow 80+ MPH driving.
 
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ShowDog

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The drivers parents should be in jail. The article pretty clearly states he spent hours driving and babying his car and obsessing over it. Yet he doesn't even have a fucking license? And they let him take friends around in it?

Its hard enough to trust a teenage driver with your kids who has actually passed the driving tests because they're so prone to irresponsibility. But fuck you'd think they at least took the test in the first place.
 
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smurfx

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cruets said:
His parents got him a car when he didn't even have a permit? What's up with that?
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his brother gave him the car but i don't know why the parents would just let him drive the car around without at least a fucking permit. its not like its hard to get one either.
 
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Alucrid

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smurfx said:
his brother gave him the car but i don't know why the parents would just let him drive the car around without at least a fucking permit. its not like its hard to get one either.
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Even with a permit you need an adult/guardian in the car though.
 
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smurfx

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Alucrid said:
Even with a permit you need an adult/guardian in the car though.
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yeah i know but you need a permit to not get into trouble if you are giving the kid driving lessons. who even taught this kid to drive? it did say they were recent immigrants so maybe they did not know you needed a driving permit.
 
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Alucrid

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smurfx said:
yeah i know but you need a permit to not get into trouble if you are giving the kid driving lessons. who even taught this kid to drive? it did say they were recent immigrants so maybe they did not know you needed a driving permit.
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Uh...well they knew you had to have a license considering that he applied for one a couple of times.
 
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Dali

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TheChewyWaffles said:
lol no. They were speeding and the guy driving didn't have a license. The only person at fault was the driver and anyone distracting him.

As a parent I would rather buy a car and force my kids to drive alone than let them ride with friends. Teens are crazy-ass stupid when they get in cars with other teens.
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Well all the kids were minors. Unless the driver stole the car the parents would be responsible for letting an unlicensed driver take their ride willingly I would imagine.
 
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Dram

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His older brother, gave him the car. I wonder he'll be held liable, if the car was registered in his name?
 
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