Dark Souls III Review Thread

Oh man I never realized that
Anri of Astora's sex
depends on the sex you chose for your character. I was so confused on my second (female) run through.
 
I smell DS3 vs Bloodborne metacritic score in this thread.

More like multiplatform vs exclusive battle. Few of the comnents about BB probably wouldn't be as sour if it wasn't an exclusive title, and people often are less judgemental when it comes to multiplatforms.
 
I can only think of Salt & Sanctuary and Lords of the Fallen, though I haven't actually played either

I see Salt & Sanctuary get a lots of positive impression, not much for Lords of the Fallen on Gaf. Thinking about getting S&S during PSN or Steam sale since I can't afford it right now after DS3 and U4 pre-order
 
I see Salt & Sanctuary get a lots of positive impression, not much for Lords of the Fallen on Gaf. Thinking about getting S&S during PSN or Steam sale since I can't afford it right now after DS3 and U4 pre-order

im like the only Lords apologist on Gaf lol

Actually Im not even an apologist, I dont think its particulary good and it certainly cant touch the actual souls games...

...but boy did I love it. And yes I want Salt bad but its not out on PC yet
 
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Goooaaaal.

Praise be Gwynn.
 
I'm surprised how prominent the "interconnectivity"-argument is. I thought it's pretty well designed. you can explore an area horizontally and vertically finding something interesting or opening up a necessary shortcut (those regular enemies can be rather brutal). I also feel it's more varied in locations and aesthetics than bloodborne. the only thing I prefer bloodborne over it is its fresh new take on danger.

dark souls 3 seems most of the time familiar. which isn't a bad thing and especially not if you're new to the series. but the experience I had playing through demon's souls is long gone.
 
I'm surprised how prominent the "interconnectivity"-argument is. I thought it's pretty well designed. you can explore an area horizontally and vertically finding something interesting or opening up a necessary shortcut (those regular enemies can be rather brutal). I also feel it's more varied in locations and aesthetics than bloodborne. the only thing I prefer bloodborne over it is its fresh new take on danger.
yep from what i understood the major problem (of polygon mostly) is just that the areas aren't intertwined like in DS1 , but from what i played the actual areas are more varied and better designed than ever before and unlike DS2 its all logically placed
 
I think that's a deserved average for the game. It's overall the best souls game without glaring quality dips but BB was still the tighter package that retains an excellent quality from start to finish.
 
Some of the more negative reviews echo some of the conflict I've felt since finishing the game with two distinct builds. (I've played the game on PS4 first with high Dex/end, then with high Int/ Attunement). At once, there's really nothing else quite like Dark Souls 3 out there--speaking of its visual design and combat quality--and the game kept me mostly engaged from start to finish. By any estimation, this makes it a terrific success--but I still felt somewhat unfulfilled as things ended, like the game hadn't quite met my expectations. It's very hard to quantify why this might be, especially as I am relatively easy to please and not particularly good at video games.

I completed my first playthrough of Dark Souls 3 at 30 hours, which seemed short as it took me around 40 to get through Bloodborne--but this is not to say that game length somehow signifies quality; instead, I equate these times to significant roadblocks I faced in Souls, and overcoming those obstacles was time-consuming. My first round of Dark Souls lasted i think 50 hours, and I ran into some meaningful walls trying to even reach a few of the later game bosses, let alone defeating those bosses. Four Kings took me a long time--mostly because I had missed Sif--and Nito wasn't much easier.

Looking back, I was able to get through most bosses in Dark Souls 3 on my first attempt, which was certainly not the case for Dark Souls 2 or Bloodborne, and I didn't really encounter any solid walls in the difficulty. As with all Souls games, it's much harder without stats in HP, so keep that in mind if you want to make sure you've got some challenge.
There are a few gimmick bosses here that offer next to no challenge, regardless of build, which I can't help but feel is somewhat disappointing.

Perhaps this is just the result of me getting better at Souls games, and nothing will ever feel as daunting and rewarding as Dark Souls/Demon's Souls did back in the day--but I still feel like Bloodborne came awfully close by just shaking up the combat. The first time I defeated Gascoigne / Amygdala, for example, were "series" highs for me. Hell, I even thought Micolash was trilling.

So, with all that screed behind us, I still don't know exactly how I feel; maybe it's just the melancholy of it having ended at all. I still have things to uncover, but the main pathways through the world of Dark Souls 3 feel well-trod. This is a good game, make no mistake--it just might be exactly the right time to give the series a rest, to make it precious again.
 
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?

Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.
 
Woah there. Best Dark Souls game is a stretch, let alone best in the Soulsborne series. Better than DS2 fo sho.

And atmosphere is pretty bad compared to Bloodborne.

Disagree on both fronts...

This game is fun and fantastically beautiful graphically!!

I agree...it is right up there with Demons Souls, Dark Souls 1, and Bloodborne. All of them including Dark Souls 2(especially including all DLCs) are incredible games. All 5 are must plays imo.
 
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?

Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.
Leave DS2 until about a year or so after playing any other of the games. That way you won't remember how much better the rest are during your DS2 play through.
 
I strongly disagree with that to an extent because what made DkS1 and DkS2 great for me is that I had freedom and uncertainty of how to progress the game, I didn't HAVE to go from A -> B, I could go to area A instead of B or C etc.

It's not necessarily about interconnectivity for me as it is for choice. DkS1 combined with interconnectivity + choice is what has made it the best in the series, DkS2 didn't have as much interconnectivity but it still had a hell of a lot of choice.

Both DkS1 and DkS2 didn't have a clear, set linear progression, there are many, many ways you could progress through the game, as opposed to BB and DkS3 (from what I hear of DkS3 and have seen). Bloodborne is my least favourite game in Soulsborne series due to this, plus the build/item variety.

For me, freedom of choice in how I progress in the game is the most important, not necessarily the interconnectivity. While it's great that DkS3 has individual areas that have good design, it would be much, much better if there was choice in how you progressed through the game overall. In my opinion one of the areas the series has regressed is regarding that choice.

Yeah, lack of choices and always having a clear path to progress is way worse than more or less interconnectedness. Very disappointed if it turns out to be true.
 
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?

Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.

Dark Souls 2 is great, but i'd say it's even slower then DS1 is some respects, so it might be better for you to go straight to 3.
 
People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.

Thank god the only relevant reviews to me are on Steam nowadays. I feel bad for people who care about metacritic and still believe GTA IV is the best GTA game and Dark Souls II is better than one.
 
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?

Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.

I would play Dark Souls 1 before playing 3, it's one of those games where they tug at the nostalgic strings a bit and deliver a familiar feeling, and bring some exciting new stuff to perfectly round out a similar fresh feeling by infusing a little Bloodborne and Demon's Souls to the mix.
 
People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.

Thank god the only relevant reviews to me are on Steam nowadays. I feel bad for people who care about metacritic and still believe GTA IV is the best GTA game and Dark Souls II is better than one.

Sure sounds like you care a tiny bit more than what you're claiming
 
People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.

Thank god the only relevant reviews to me are on Steam nowadays. I feel bad for people who care about metacritic and still believe GTA IV is the best GTA game and Dark Souls II is better than one.
It's almost as if these games did not appear at the same time and standards change throughout the years.
 
I have to say, the one area where Dark Souls 3 LARGELY improves upon past entries was the music. Every single boss theme is a masterpiece, which is unbelievable until you actually listen to the soundtrack. It's like Bloodborne: The Old Hunters extended over the course of an entire game. I can't think of a single song on the entire OST that is less than a 9/10. It's too bad more critics don't give the soundtrack the recognition it deserves.

Also, I found that Dark Souls 3 refines a lot of Dark Souls tropes, so while it's not necessarily original, it's the best at what it does.
One boss fight in particular takes every single boss "twist" you ever experience in a Souls game, and combines them into ONE FIGHT. Let me tell you, it's a rollercoaster of a fight.
 
Well if this was true every Call of Duty game would still get 9's.People get tired of the same thing. The impact of playing your first Souls game vs your 5th is very different.

Funnily enough, all three current gen CODs are scored around 80. Series like Silent Hill 1-3 and Halo 1-3 scored about the same as well, despite of the similarities in gameplay mechanics. If the game is good, it shouldn't be put down just because it shares similarities with its predecessors. After all, people buy sequels because they liked what they played before, and want more of the same.


its like ultra SF4 scoring lower than super dispite having more characters etc

but lets be honest here, 95% of SoulsGaf doesnt need a review for DS3 (or for more games, but some in particular) to know they are gonna get it
Well, reviews are subjective, after all. I don't think it's really that weird. Some people might, for example, think a sequel should do much more than the game preceding it, which is fine, a valid opinion. Some people don't.

Yeah, after Bloodborne, I don't need reviews to buy the game. Edge's score is probably the most meaningful to me, as it's the only game magazine/website I still continue to read. Their tastes seem to align the most with mine.


Reviewers want to reward originality and innovation (in principle if not in always in practice).

And other undefined things, like next gen gameplay.
 
Glad to hear that critics seem to like it a lot. Wasn't going to affect my purchase since there's no way I'm not buying the game but it's still nice to hear. Hopefully we have another masterpiece coming up.
 
Huh...this runs counter to what most say about the game's levels being the most sprawling and littered with shorcuts in the series.

What's the shortest route through a mansion? Enter the front, exit the back. Want to explore it? Sure, go ahead, but that's just for exploration's sake since you still need to exit out the back door eventually to progress.
 
I strongly disagree with that to an extent because what made DkS1 and DkS2 great for me is that I had freedom and uncertainty of how to progress the game, I didn't HAVE to go from A -> B, I could go to area A instead of B or C etc.
That doesn't have much to do with inter-connectivity though, BB's world is more interconnected than DS2's yet you have nowhere near the freedom of choice when it comes to the order in which you tackle areas. Even DeS which is basically four completely separate areas, would give you more freedom than BB.

Not sure where DS3 stand when it comes to this, but what you're refereeing to here isn't dictated by how interconnected the world is.
 
Didn't you know? Players opinions are passé, it's paid reviewers what matters so yeah Dark Souls II is much better than the first and GTA IV is better than V.

Yes, I only base my opinions of what other people tell me. You've got me!
 
I have to say, the one area where Dark Souls 3 LARGELY improves upon past entries was the music. Every single boss theme is a masterpiece, which is unbelievable until you actually listen to the soundtrack. It's like Bloodborne: The Old Hunters extended over the course of an entire game. I can't think of a single song on the entire OST that is less than a 9/10. It's too bad more critics don't give the soundtrack the recognition it deserves.

The soundtrack is really, really remarkable.
The progression of the Pontiff Sulyvahn theme--though it was spoiled in one of the trailers--is a masterpiece on its own
. Masterful stuff, no doubt.
 
Can't we just debate the games on their merits instead of trying to call each other out for favoritism or contrarianism or whatever it is you're on about?
 
Can't wait to play this, got my money ready to go once the game is released. Haven't paid attention to much game media for 3 yet, so I think I'm gonna be going in really fresh and ready to have a good ass time

Been playing some other Souls games to get my hyped, won't get burned out either I can play these games all the time haha. Got the Platinum in Bloodborne (I never want to see of hear of chalice dungeon again...) and finally working towards Plat in Demon's Souls now (gonna have to be doing alot of Soul Tendency stuff -___-).

Interesting observation about Demon's Souls though, the bosses in this game feel like the some of the easiest in the series outside of DS2, and even then many of these are easy and most have a gimmick to the fight. The only truly difficult bosses I feel have been Flamelurker, Pentrator and Old Monk (if you end up with someone who's at least decent at the game lol)
 
Yoshichan
The best Dark Souls game
8/10
 
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