I smell DS3 vs Bloodborne metacritic score in this thread.
I can only think of Salt & Sanctuary and Lords of the Fallen, though I haven't actually played either
I see Salt & Sanctuary get a lots of positive impression, not much for Lords of the Fallen on Gaf. Thinking about getting S&S during PSN or Steam sale since I can't afford it right now after DS3 and U4 pre-order
I can only think of Salt & Sanctuary and Lords of the Fallen, though I haven't actually played either
Salt & Sanctuary isn't really comparable since it's 2D, Lords of the Fallen is bad.
yep from what i understood the major problem (of polygon mostly) is just that the areas aren't intertwined like in DS1 , but from what i played the actual areas are more varied and better designed than ever before and unlike DS2 its all logically placedI'm surprised how prominent the "interconnectivity"-argument is. I thought it's pretty well designed. you can explore an area horizontally and vertically finding something interesting or opening up a necessary shortcut (those regular enemies can be rather brutal). I also feel it's more varied in locations and aesthetics than bloodborne. the only thing I prefer bloodborne over it is its fresh new take on danger.
Woah there. Best Dark Souls game is a stretch, let alone best in the Soulsborne series. Better than DS2 fo sho.
And atmosphere is pretty bad compared to Bloodborne.
Leave DS2 until about a year or so after playing any other of the games. That way you won't remember how much better the rest are during your DS2 play through.Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?
Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.
I strongly disagree with that to an extent because what made DkS1 and DkS2 great for me is that I had freedom and uncertainty of how to progress the game, I didn't HAVE to go from A -> B, I could go to area A instead of B or C etc.
It's not necessarily about interconnectivity for me as it is for choice. DkS1 combined with interconnectivity + choice is what has made it the best in the series, DkS2 didn't have as much interconnectivity but it still had a hell of a lot of choice.
Both DkS1 and DkS2 didn't have a clear, set linear progression, there are many, many ways you could progress through the game, as opposed to BB and DkS3 (from what I hear of DkS3 and have seen). Bloodborne is my least favourite game in Soulsborne series due to this, plus the build/item variety.
For me, freedom of choice in how I progress in the game is the most important, not necessarily the interconnectivity. While it's great that DkS3 has individual areas that have good design, it would be much, much better if there was choice in how you progressed through the game overall. In my opinion one of the areas the series has regressed is regarding that choice.
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?
Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.
People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.
Exactly, they should be salty for both reasons.Well they're not wrong.
Question FromGAF, I've finished Bloodborne and loved it, half way through DS1 and keen to finish it before DS3...should I leave DS2 until after DS3?
Finding DS1 a bit slow for my tastes to be honest, definitely prefer Bloodborne to DS1.
People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.
Thank god the only relevant reviews to me are on Steam nowadays. I feel bad for people who care about metacritic and still believe GTA IV is the best GTA game and Dark Souls II is better than one.
It's almost as if these games did not appear at the same time and standards change throughout the years.People salty that it's going to be lower than Bloodborne when the real disgusting news is that Dark Souls II is going to be higher than both this and worst of all, Dark Souls.
Thank god the only relevant reviews to me are on Steam nowadays. I feel bad for people who care about metacritic and still believe GTA IV is the best GTA game and Dark Souls II is better than one.
DS2 came out in 2014.It's almost as if these games did not appear at the same time and standards change throughout the years.
Exactly, they should be salty for both reasons.
Well if this was true every Call of Duty game would still get 9's.People get tired of the same thing. The impact of playing your first Souls game vs your 5th is very different.
its like ultra SF4 scoring lower than super dispite having more characters etc
but lets be honest here, 95% of SoulsGaf doesnt need a review for DS3 (or for more games, but some in particular) to know they are gonna get it
Well, reviews are subjective, after all. I don't think it's really that weird. Some people might, for example, think a sequel should do much more than the game preceding it, which is fine, a valid opinion. Some people don't.
Reviewers want to reward originality and innovation (in principle if not in always in practice).
And other undefined things, like next gen gameplay.
"Nextgen gameplay" is probably the most vague term I've ever seen in reviews this gen.
You're insaneYah, salty cause Dark Souls 2 is better than 1. Hard thing to admit.
That's very last gen of you to say.
Huh...this runs counter to what most say about the game's levels being the most sprawling and littered with shorcuts in the series.
You're insane
He's right from a PC standpoint. Then again anything is better than Dark Souls on PC.You're insane
You're insane
That doesn't have much to do with inter-connectivity though, BB's world is more interconnected than DS2's yet you have nowhere near the freedom of choice when it comes to the order in which you tackle areas. Even DeS which is basically four completely separate areas, would give you more freedom than BB.I strongly disagree with that to an extent because what made DkS1 and DkS2 great for me is that I had freedom and uncertainty of how to progress the game, I didn't HAVE to go from A -> B, I could go to area A instead of B or C etc.
Didn't you know? Players opinions are passé, it's paid reviewers what matters so yeah Dark Souls II is much better than the first and GTA IV is better than V.
I have to say, the one area where Dark Souls 3 LARGELY improves upon past entries was the music. Every single boss theme is a masterpiece, which is unbelievable until you actually listen to the soundtrack. It's like Bloodborne: The Old Hunters extended over the course of an entire game. I can't think of a single song on the entire OST that is less than a 9/10. It's too bad more critics don't give the soundtrack the recognition it deserves.
Can't we just debate the games on their merits instead of trying to call each other out for favoritism or contrarianism or whatever it is you're on about?
About the same? 35 for me.Length-wise is it shorter/longer than BB?