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[Infernodash]

from Justin Mcelroy...

http://justinmcelroy.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/anor-londo-a-musical-tribute/

hilarious.

A very fitting song. Fucking sniping arches running on a narrow walkway killed me for almost three hours in playtime.

 

[DigitalDevil]

Except for the fact that Demon's Souls was pretty much balanced around you being in Soul Form for most of the game, and Dark Soul's is not balanced around you being cursed (otherwise it wouldn't really count as a handicap). Demon's Souls may be similar to Dark Souls but they are not exactly the same thing.

If you are having that much difficulty when cursed you either are playing too haphazardly or don't have very much vit.

 

[Dresden]

I would like to non-sarcastically avatar quote you.

So much truth, just like the Cling Ring vs. Ring of Favor and Protection. Totally opposite ways to restrict your ring slot.

It's a generally more forgiving experience, I feel, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I do think that there needed to exist some more penalties to remaining Hollow, though - even a 20% penalty to health.

 

[Finalow]

you could just run and avoid them, the last bonfire is in that small island tower thingy

so there is no bonfire after that geez.

 

[scy]

It's a generally more forgiving experience, I feel, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I do think that there needed to exist some more penalties to remaining Hollow, though - even a 20% penalty to health.

Or a bonus to human form. As it stands now, it's more or less "Go human for online stuff" and it's starting to feel like not as many people are really utilizing it. Starting to think I'd rather they reversed Hollow and Human forms for the online thing, if only to make the game that much more hectic.

Though, there'd be so much griefing that way, I wager...

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Go me, I just rang the first bell! And I even beat the boss there on my first try (although I received some help from sunshine guy).

So what do you think I do next? I fall for a false clue and fall to my death, losing my human form and the souls I got from the boss.

 

[corrosivefrost]

so there is no bonfire after that geez.

In lost izalith? It's only half irritating if you want to farm the titanite demon. And even then, you can get around it with homeward bones or the homeward miracle. Otherwise, it takes all of a minute to sprint from the bonfire to the tower stairs with the octopus, so if you're headed back to bed of chaos, it's like a 2 minute trip.

 

[luxarific]

Except for the fact that Demon's Souls was pretty much balanced around you being in Soul Form for most of the game, and Dark Soul's is not balanced around you being cursed (otherwise it wouldn't really count as a handicap). Demon's Souls may be similar to Dark Souls but they are not exactly the same thing.

And more importantly, it was far easier to get back to vendors who could sell you restorative items. They should have opened up bonfire warp capabilities far earlier in Dark Souls. Running back is just so tedious and boring.

 

[Finalow]

In lost izalith? It's only half irritating if you want to farm the titanite demon. And even then, you can get around it with homeward bones or the homeward miracle. Otherwise, it takes all of a minute to sprint from the bonfire to the tower stairs with the octopus, so if you're headed back to bed of chaos, it's like a 2 minute trip.

ok, some advices for the boss? I already know how to defeat it.

 

[DigitalDevil]

Go me, I just rang the first bell! And I even beat the boss there on my first try (although I received some help from sunshine guy).

So what do you think I do next? I fall for a false clue and fall to my death, losing my human form and the souls I got from the boss.

well first of all go get your souls man!

And my recommendation for your next area would be the lower section of the undead burg (remember where you met sunshine guy? The locked door near there).

Don't miss the shortcut back to the undead burg bonfire on your right when entering the area.

Also, if you haven't found the blacksmith near the church where the gargoyles were, do that. And be sure you unlocked the shortcut in the church back to firelink also.

 

[Grinchy]

Anybody else get extremely bad framerate in the depths? At the beginning of the stage in the open area with all the tables the framerate is as slow as honey and definitely not as tasty.

There are some mobs in there that do not respawn once they are dead. When they are dead, the framerate goes back to normal in those upper areas. That room or 2 were the worst drops in framerate I have seen in the game so far (way worse than blighttown).

 

[2AdEPT]

I started with Deprived class as the guy looked so funny. Bad idea? Is this hard mode or something?

Only 10 min in. Just start over?

I don't think the deprived is a bad idea at all as you get more stat points than you woudl if you took just about anything else. Deprived have no weaknesses and create a great platform for balanced characters. This may not be ideal for specialists and if you want to be a specialist you may not want the 2-3 extra points in faith or resistnace etc....but these points will help new people more than the basic armour and weapons that are dished out....I took off all armour most of the fist two levels anyway.

I started as a hunter which had a balance of strength and dex, but mostly because I knew she would start with a bow to get Drake, etc. etc. I have leveled all areas since then in order to try different weapons, miracles, and sorcery, as well as resistance to get more poison control for blighttown.......deprived would have been a better start as I ditched the armour, and was able to buy the bow at the first merchant anyway, even if it didn't drop which I think it did anyway.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Except for the fact that Demon's Souls was pretty much balanced around you being in Soul Form for most of the game, and Dark Soul's is not balanced around you being cursed (otherwise it wouldn't really count as a handicap). Demon's Souls may be similar to Dark Souls but they are not exactly the same thing.

True, there was also the Cling Ring to mitigate the health loss so it wasn't that bad then.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

It's a generally more forgiving experience, I feel, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I do think that there needed to exist some more penalties to remaining Hollow, though - even a 20% penalty to health.

I loved Demon's Souls but I'm actually really glad that there isn't an HP hit associated with being Hollow. Having a health bar that is never all the way full on the top of the screen really bothers me.

 

[vilmer_]

Holy shit at all of these respawning Capra Demons wtf!!!

 

[Grinchy]

Being cursed wasn't even that bad. I think I still had 10 VIT when I was cursed, wearing light armor, and I cleared the depths and beat the boss with it. I feel like there probably should be an HP penalty to being hollowed too.

 

[2AdEPT]

well first of all go get your souls man!

And my recommendation for your next area would be the lower section of the undead burg (remember where you met sunshine guy? The locked door near there).

Don't miss the shortcut back to the undead burg bonfire on your right when entering the area.

Also, if you haven't found the blacksmith near the church where the gargoyles were, do that. And be sure you unlocked the shortcut in the church back to firelink also.

DOn't forget to go farm the first few forest creatatures for purple moss!!!!! iN darkroot....just run by the scary loking mosnter at the bottom of the stairs where the blacksmith is.

 

[corrosivefrost]

ok, some advices for the boss? I already know how to defeat it.

the best advice for easy is to make sure you have no souls/humanity to lose -- kill the first orb as you see fit, kill the second orb with a bow so you don't have to deal with getting knocked into the holes and if you die after that, you can basically take a straight run for the root in the center after landing from the initial slide down.

Not sure if that helps, but from my experience, it was what I took away from it.

 

[Lionheart1827]

This was me.

And yes, turn around and talk to the gargoyle sat high up on the wall.

Thanks, I got worried for a second!

 

[Darklord]

What new pyro spell should I get my first time?

 

[Risk Breaker]

A very fitting song. Fucking sniping arches running on a narrow walkway killed me for almost three hours in playtime.

I know a lot of people had problems with that part but eehhhh... I simply ran up the walkway and then circled around the right part, got close to the right archer dude and kicked him down :/

I did it on my FIRST try.

 

[JimtotheHum]

Can someone give me some directions around

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Anor Londo? I walked in, found one bonfire, used an elevator, played with some steps, fought the ninja storm trooper guys, completed (I guess?) the Painted World of Ariamis by defeating Priscilla, returned, played with some more steps, found a second bonfire, played with the steps again, ended up facing this enormous staircase, ascended that, killed some giants, walked on some ramps, killed some pink flying guys, walked along some more, tried to get to where there were more pink guys, but one of them shot my shield and knocked me to my death. Am I even going in the right direction? Is there a blacksmith or merchant I missed along the way?

Anybody?

yeah, you are going in the right direction.

 

[DigitalDevil]

DOn't forget to go farm the first few forest creatatures for purple moss!!!!! iN darkroot....just run by the scary loking mosnter at the bottom of the stairs where the blacksmith is.

or cheese him with arrows while dodging his lightning blasts. They're easy to dodge without rolling!

 

[Dresden]

What new pyro spell should I get my first time?

All of them!

Iron Flesh is the priority though.

 

[JimtotheHum]

I know a lot of people had problems with that part but eehhhh... I simply ran up the walkway and then circled around the right part, got close to the right archer dude and kicked him down :/

I did it on my FIRST try.

I used to force miracle to send him off the ledge. It's a great spell if you know you are going into an area where there are a lot of chances to push enemies off ledges.

 

[HildyB]

Grrr, FIOS service kicked out. So game booted me and in the process locked up the PS3 so I had to hard boot it. Come back on and save is corrupted... 53 hours gone >_<;

Bright side, 6 hours later I'm at the same point (granted a few items less and not as high a SL) but I didn't kill NPCs by accident this run and I've been a tail cutting fool

 

[Ken]

Are the soul arrows sorcery? How does their damage compare to pyromancer spells?

 

[kingschiebi]

What new pyro spell should I get my first time?

I got combustion and later on the Chaos Fireball from the covenant. Liking it so far.
Never had a use for any of the buff spells, yet, but maybe that'll change soon enough (I'm at Sen's Castle at the moment)

 

[johntown]

All of them!

Iron Flesh is the priority though.

Does Iron Flesh scale with the pyromancy glove or is it basically act like armor. I only asked because I have not used pyromancy yet and just wondering if I would need to upgrade my glove for Iron Flesh to be effective.

 

[Of All Trades]

Black Bow of Pharis has lower base damage but scales better with DEX. It's found off of Pharis beyond the Crest door in forest (one of the ghost NPCs you can't target). Tends to suicide off cliffs, though, so be careful on the fight so you can still loot the corpse. Besides that, the Composite Bow should do better with STR/DEX and without the Greatbow's requirements; as far as pure single stat goes, BBoP is basically your best choice.

Where's the composite bow? And is the BBoP a random drop? I've farmed the 20k door plenty and have no doubt sent Pharis to his cheap doom more than a few times.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Grrr, FIOS service kicked out. So game booted me and in the process locked up the PS3 so I had to hard boot it. Come back on and save is corrupted... 53 hours gone >_<;

Bright side, 6 hours later I'm at the same point (granted a few items less and not as high a SL) but I didn't kill NPCs by accident this run and I've been a tail cutting fool

I might play offline from now on if losing your connection can corrupt your save. My router has been pretty sketchy lately and I've already had the connection drop once and got kicked out to the title screen. Why the fuck did they design it that way?

 

[johntown]

Are the soul arrows sorcery? How does their damage compare to pyromancer spells?

Yes

Depends on stats and other things but from a base standpoint Pyromancy is going to be stronger.

 

[Ken]

Where's the composite bow? And is the BBoP a random drop? I've farmed the 20k door plenty and have no doubt sent Pharis to his cheap doom more than a few times.

I think I found the Composite Bow in New London Ruins. I don't think Pharis is part of the usual 4 or so NPCs most people pull for the exploit. Think she's deeper in the forest.

 

[kingschiebi]

Are the soul arrows sorcery? How does their damage compare to pyromaner spells?

That's not really easy to answer. From what I understood, all magic scales with INT while pyromancer stuff just scales with the level of your pyromancer's flame.

In short, both are most likely equally good, depending on enemies resistance to fire/magic, of course, but the pyromancies are more of a supplemental magic while fighting with a regular weapon.

For me, I do like to play a quick character with high dexterity, but also reserve the option to have some ranged attacks with elemental effects. Pyromancer is the perfect starting point for this.

 

[scy]

Where's the composite bow? And is the BBoP a random drop? I've farmed the 20k door plenty and have no doubt sent Pharis to his cheap doom more than a few times.

Pharis only spawns once and it is a 100% chance drop. She's the scimitar wielding Archer that is basically straight out from the Crest door and hiding amongst the trees. She is not with the Mage, Assassin, Cleric, and Pyromancer.

The Composite Bow should be in New Londo, near the

Spoiler

level for draining it

. Worth noting, though, that it has pretty crappy range (38).

Edit:

Are the soul arrows sorcery? How does their damage compare to pyromancer spells?

Generally speaking, Sorcery spells will do more damage than Pyromancer spells in the end. Magic Adjust on the Catalysts goes a bit higher than Pyromancer Flame's Magic Adjust but, even then, they just have better spells than the really useful Pyromancer ones (i.e., Crystal spells vs Great Chaos). Pyromancy also will front end a lot more damage early on vs Sorcery casting faster or with more charges before Sorcery starts taking the advantage at the end-game spells.

...that said, absolutely nothing stops a Sorcery using character from using Pyromancies, short of having to have both a Flame and a Catalyst around.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

well first of all go get your souls man!

And my recommendation for your next area would be the lower section of the undead burg (remember where you met sunshine guy? The locked door near there).

Don't miss the shortcut back to the undead burg bonfire on your right when entering the area.

Also, if you haven't found the blacksmith near the church where the gargoyles were, do that. And be sure you unlocked the shortcut in the church back to firelink also.

Thanks for the tips! So that's where that key I found leads. And yeah, I found the blacksmith (and that strong monster near him, who killed me two times before I gave up on him). And I found the elevator to Firelink Shrine, as well. (I actually found that before I found the blacksmith and the bonfire near him.) Fighting that fat dark knight and the mage enemy near the elevator was really intense.

 

[Ken]

That's not really easy to answer. From what I understood, all magic scales with INT while pyromancer stuff just scales with the level of your pyromancer's flame.

In short, both are most likely equally good, depending on enemies resistance to fire/magic, of course, but the pyromancies are more of a supplemental magic while fighting with a regular weapon.

For me, I do like to play a quick character with high dexterity, but also reserve the option to have some ranged attacks with elemental effects. Pyromancer is the perfect starting point for this.

So basically with enough INT sorcery could eventually surpass an ascended pyromacy flame maxes out in damage.

 

[Zzoram]

Holy shit at all of these respawning Capra Demons wtf!!!

I don't think they actually respawn.

 

[Ken]

I don't think they actually respawn.

The minor Capra Demons do.

 

[DigitalDevil]

Thanks for the tips! So that's where that key I found leads. And yeah, I found the blacksmith (and that strong monster near him, who killed me two times before I gave up on him). And I found the elevator to Firelink Shrine, as well. (I actually found that before I found the blacksmith and the bonfire near him.) Fighting that fat dark knight and the mage enemy near the elevator was really intense.

Yeah that was a tough fight. I managed to pull the knight out of the church though, and then just hid behind pillars and shot the mage guy in the face a few times. Thank god he doesn't respawn.

Apparently, if you don't kill him before ascending the stairs towards the gargoyles he

Spoiler

casts a spell that makes all the ghouls up there much stronger

. I would hate to experience that first hand.

 

[Phat Michael]

i just killed the bosses in Anor Londo. have full havels armour set, Queelaag fury sword +4, Lightning Estoc +3, Divine Longsword +5, Crystal Ring Shield. Ready to rock..

Should i take out Sif next?

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Thanks for the tips! So that's where that key I found leads. And yeah, I found the blacksmith (and that strong monster near him, who killed me two times before I gave up on him). And I found the elevator to Firelink Shrine, as well. (I actually found that before I found the blacksmith and the bonfire near him.) Fighting that fat dark knight and the mage enemy near the elevator was really intense.

You can pretty easily run past that strong monster and explore Darkroot Garden. There's some good equipment there that you may be able to grab, especially if you don't mind doing suicide runs.

 

[vilmer_]

The minor Capra Demons do.

They're actually not too bad now, seemed really daunting at first seeing so many lol! A couple strong attacks with a +5 fire Greataxe does them in fast. I'm actually only in here to pick up that Large Fire Ember so I can head back to the Tomb of the Giants and deal with those asshat skeletons

 

[Dresden]

They have like 700 hp, not bad at all.

 

[demosthenes]

I've made so many stupid mistakes in NG+...going into Cata/Tomb with no LordVessel, going into Blighttown without unlocking the gate in Valley so I could get back to Firelink, ugh.

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

Kind of bummed out. Hit lvl 34, started londo ruins, but im out of transient curses.
ghosts are raping me, and I cant just run through to even get to the first bonfire wherever the hell that is. I tried to get into sens fortress, but two armed lizards bent me over a piece of pottery and got saucy.
So at this point, It's catacombs, or somehow try to farm enough souls to get the crest to open the door in the garden.
I've kind of hit a wall.

 

[demosthenes]

Kind of bummed out. Hit lvl 34, started londo ruins, but im out of transient curses.
ghosts are raping me, and I cant just run through to even get to the first bonfire wherever the hell that is. I tried to get into sens fortress, but two armed lizards bent me over a piece of pottery and got saucy.
So at this point, It's catacombs, or somehow try to farm enough souls to get the crest to open the door in the garden.
I've kind of hit a wall.

What class/weapon are you using?

3 lizards in you can get the lightning spear which is great. You can also get the item boost discovery ring which will help you w/ transiet curse drops.

There is no fire in Londo, it's not that big.

 

[truly101]

Ever seen the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre where the first guy wanders in the house and Leatherface comes out of nowhere and thwacks him with a hammer? Thats what happened to me when I used that Watchtower basement key. Yikes.

Whats the point of the Darkroot basin? Kill the Hydra I guess and farm crystal dudes? Its not very big. I also hate that all this armor I'm picking up makes my character so f'n slow.

 

[DigitalDevil]

I've made so many stupid mistakes in NG+...going into Cata/Tomb with no LordVessel, going into Blighttown without unlocking the gate in Valley so I could get back to Firelink, ugh.

I'm just entering blighttown for the first time.... where is this gate you are talking about? Where's the Valley?

 

[demosthenes]

Ever seen the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre where the first guy wanders in the house and Leatherface comes out of nowhere and thwacks him with a hammer? Thats what happened to me when I used that Watchtower basement key. Yikes.

Whats the point of the Darkroot basin? Kill the Hydra I guess and farm crystal dudes? Its not very big. I also hate that all this armor I'm picking up makes my character so f'n slow.

It helps connect Undead Burg w/ darkroot directly.

Also go behind the Hydra, kill the golden golem and talk w/ the person. Her summon sign is near where you killed the Hydra. Talking to her = good spells.