H_Prestige
Banned
Get a claymore, upgrade it, 2h hand it and just start swinging away. Wear high poise armor. You will wreck like 90% of players this way.
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Get a claymore, upgrade it, 2h hand it and just start swinging away. Wear high poise armor. You will wreck like 90% of players this way.
Incendiary
Banned
Sif & S/O are the two bosses I most look forward to in the game. The only other boss I really enjoy fighting is Priscilla, and Gwyn at the very end.
What bothers me the most about Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith is that that entire section is basically a boss rush. Ceaseless Discharge -> Capra Demon/Taurus Demon onslaught -> Demon Firesage -> Centipede Demon -> T-Rexes -> Bed of Chaos. And somehow all those bosses suck. Considering how amazingly designed the rest of the game is, it's really weird how completely Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith fails as an area.
yeah - I'm sure grinding 4-2 for a week until you outlevel everything is exactly what the developers had in mind...
/sarcasm
also how did you beat Allant again?
Jake Tower
Banned
Onion Knight: "We need three, maybe five more bodies."
*opens door, jumped by three Silver Knights*
It's cool, brah, you just stand by the window, I got this.
*opens door, jumped by three Silver Knights*
It's cool, brah, you just stand by the window, I got this.
Incendiary
Banned
Fuck Bed of Chaos. Seriously, who thought this boss was a good idea? Terrible!
I'm hoping in the next Souls game (or the upcoming DLC) there's some interesting stage bosses. More stuff like Smough & Ornstein, where there are multiple parts to the boss. Where like at half health, the boss will jump away and spawn smaller enemies you have to deal with before coming back to the stage, or where there are multiple arenas in the boss area, and at certain points the boss will leave and you have to chase him down.
Bed of Chaos is a good starting point, just terrible execution. A boss where the main boss is invulnerable for the beginning and you have to knock out the weak points by running around the arena, except instead of fucking large arm full-screen attacks and random pits opening, just have enemy spawns you have to fight as well, or maybe fireballs to dodge or something. I don't know. I'd just like more bosses that aren't dodge -> attack -> dodge -> attack until the boss is dead, or get behind boss and attack, stay behind boss when he turns and attack until boss is dead.
I'm hoping in the next Souls game (or the upcoming DLC) there's some interesting stage bosses. More stuff like Smough & Ornstein, where there are multiple parts to the boss. Where like at half health, the boss will jump away and spawn smaller enemies you have to deal with before coming back to the stage, or where there are multiple arenas in the boss area, and at certain points the boss will leave and you have to chase him down.
Bed of Chaos is a good starting point, just terrible execution. A boss where the main boss is invulnerable for the beginning and you have to knock out the weak points by running around the arena, except instead of fucking large arm full-screen attacks and random pits opening, just have enemy spawns you have to fight as well, or maybe fireballs to dodge or something. I don't know. I'd just like more bosses that aren't dodge -> attack -> dodge -> attack until the boss is dead, or get behind boss and attack, stay behind boss when he turns and attack until boss is dead.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Lost Izalith seems like an afterthought anyway...
that said, I have literally died zero times on Bed Of Chaos but I did know how to beat the boss before I attempted it myself.
I don't get TheSeks hate for S&O just because it's (clearly) the most challenging boss around.
that said, I have literally died zero times on Bed Of Chaos but I did know how to beat the boss before I attempted it myself.
I don't get TheSeks hate for S&O just because it's (clearly) the most challenging boss around.
Red Liquorice
Member
What? You're done, but the real Dark Souls begins HERE!
Isn't that what everyone does? I like to stand out from the pack a little! What is life if you can't beat the giants armour/derp mask/lightning zweihander crowd whilst wearing onion head+dusk dress and using poison resin?!
Jake Tower
Banned
Beat Smough and Ornstein and met the Big Titty Goddess.
Finally! I can fast travel!
Finally! I can fast travel!
Red Liquorice
Member
Arrow to the cleavage! \o/
Profound sadness.
I don't think i tanked anything in Demon's souls tbh. I never wore armor above the black leather stuff. Gotta roll fast!
You couldn't really tank in Demon's Souls because there wasn't poise in that game.
Poise changed everything in Dark Souls.
valentine71
Banned
Amazing chest ahead! Wish they gave the fast travel option before though.
Edit: Fuck Four Kings. I finished the game many times and they are always hard for me to kill because of the depth of field or whatever it is. I always miss a few pyromancy spells on them before i get a feel of my distance from them.
Although without poise the Four Kings on NG+ or further might have been near impossible for many players. Even though I've more or less mastered their moves I still need to swing through a bit of damage to get rid of them quickly.
But I'm still sore we didn't get a good equivalent to the Dark Silver Shield or Ancient King's Set, which was the perfect lighter heavy armor with no stamina penalty with a great battle to obtain it.
I like the idea in theory, not so much in its current implementation. Not entirely sure what I want out of the next Souls game with armor. But I'd like to wear lighter, sexy armors and not get completely locked down with so much as a scrape.
Thinking of rolling a character through Demon's Souls again before the DLC hits. I miss 2-2. Invading there was the best time I've had with the series.
Incendiary
Banned
I haven't really played as a melee focused character yet, but I do wish there was some sort of middle ground. The armors tend to go into two categories: mage (light) or tank (heavy). I'd like some sleek, neat middle ground armor. I played a thief/pyro my first playthrough and ended up wearing mage gear most of the game because there wasn't anything worthwhile that I could still roll around in as a thief.
On another note, beat the game a second time with my sorcerer build, and wow sorcerers really are easy mode. First playthrough was ~80 hours for my first character. Clocked in at under 32 hours for the sorcerer and ended the game at a higher level to boot.
All I have left now is one of the covenants, the all miracles and all rare weapons achievements and I'm done. Will probably use the sorcerer build to get all the rare weapons (finally have a decent weapon to do some tail chopping with) and my paladin run-through will pick up the last covenant (the Faith-based one) and the all miracles.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I beat it the first time with out it. Why do you say it's broken? *online was broken when the game first came out kinda*
I like the idea but poise armors need to be a lot heavier so that you can never be able to fast roll with those even with Havel ring equipped, unless you invest a lot in endurance (something like 50-60).
Well, things like the merchant in Undead Burg, did anyone find him without a guide or another user telling them where to go? But it's almost impossible without him.
You're expecting directions? I think you're playing the wrong game then.
Red Liquorice
Member
The merchant in Undead Burg is one of the first things you come across, if you went to Undead Burg I can't see how you could miss him.
Well he's not exactly in the right direction and hidden behind crates, but okay maybe not the best of examples (although you'd be amazed how often I've walked past there before reading a guide).
I made sure to play blind on my first trip. The only spot I ran into trouble was Sen's. For whatever reasons. I didn't see the doorway in the room where you turn the rocks to the different paths. Instead I spent hours trying to to find a hidden wall or secret path that would take me to the top.
What? The merchant in Undead Burg isn't hidden by anything except those two annoying skeletons at the start. The hidden behind shit is that one skeleton that is a surprise from From.
ijed said:
Yeah. Because Poison Cloud was useful against bosses if you wanted to cheese/solo them. Where as, S&O has bullshit rush tactics, bullshit lock-on-freak outs to where mages are pretty much BONED against them.
And De Souls did have tanking in the shield system. Poise only allows you to not be hit stunned, which frankly is bullshit.
RedAssedApe
Banned
The stairs that lead to the merchant he is talking about is hidden by crates. If you're not into destroying stuff I can see how you can easily miss the guy. ::shrugs::
I got stuck after the gargoyles on my first playthrough because I thought Darkroot was the logical place to go after it...
Jake Tower
Banned
I'm playing strictly offline. No real problems. Just have to look around, break shit, etc.
It's like an old school Nintendo game.
ProTip: There are in fact illusionary walls in this game that must be dispelled by striking them.
Jake Tower
Banned
I didn't get stuck, but my exploration was cut short when I ran into the Black Knight at the bottom. I decided that wasn't the right way to go.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I want the little cartoon Solaire praising the sun in the corner as an avatar so bad
Why are you playing strictly offline? I don't get people who do this. PVP grief is easily outweighed by the fun of player co-op, funny and helpful messages and other online functions.I'm playing strictly offline. No real problems. Just have to look around, break shit, etc.
It's like an old school Nintendo game.
ProTip: There are in fact illusionary walls in this game that must be dispelled by striking them.
Hah. Valley of Drakes was an easy five minute trip. Dunno why I postponed going there so long, three Wrath of the God's with the Boost Miracle and the undead dragon similar to the painted world went down without a fight.
Dragons on the bridge were a little annoying but the sunbros lightning spear attack cleared them out.
Leaves Nito and stone grinding until the DLC hits PS3 and I can finish the game then rush through it against for the last few rare weapons/drops. *sigh*
Dragons on the bridge were a little annoying but the sunbros lightning spear attack cleared them out.
Leaves Nito and stone grinding until the DLC hits PS3 and I can finish the game then rush through it against for the last few rare weapons/drops. *sigh*
Jake Tower
Banned
My XBL Gold expired in January. I have a card to renew, but I don't feel motivated to do so unless I'm playing something else multiplayer (still need to do a full level 50 Horde and Beast mode run in Gears 3, for example, but until I get the peeps together, why waste subscription time?)
Opening this game up to getting griefed is not something I want to do. The game itself does a fine job, thankyouvermuch.
I'm just fine going solo without player messages.
Okay I'll push on then. I kept reading how people made it through because they summoned a guy here, or got a message there, and I kept dying and was like gaah I don't want to consult a guide and have my immersion broken while other people do get the aid in-game.
Oh pluh!
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Ooh, you're playing on Xbox? Ouch.
Well that's understandable. I feel like people who intentionally play offline are really missing out though.
Jake Tower
Banned
Just post here for help to get hints.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
You guys have to see this. It is a thing I found when looking for images of Solaire.
http://wombatsamurai.aisites.com/sbq/
http://wombatsamurai.aisites.com/sbq/
I realize you have your reasons for not playing online, but, "I don't want to open myself up to getting griefed" isn't a good reason. You won't get griefed unless you are human, and there is no real reason to be human more than a few seconds at time to kindle fires etc. or to summon friends.......which can be done at boss doors etc. If you want to piss off an invader just open the boss door adn see what happens to him! Booted! Any pending friendly phantoms can join after the fact and go through the door but invaders can't.
The pyschology of dying for me was similar to you at first, but once I realized I was dying 10 times in a row from the game, if I died one extra time from a griefer it was mildly annoying at worst...at best it is extra experience and a learnign opportunity, even if its only to suggest to you that you don't want to be like that when you try invading later. There are lots of ways to ensure you are a fair invader and respectful to the ethics of the game and the commuinity definitely needs more invaders like you!
Jake Tower
Banned
Yes it is.
Fuck you.
Edit: Let me elaborate some. It's not just about being invaded and killed. I did my homework on Dark Souls online and griefing potential. There are NPCs that evidently give different dialog if you are Hollow or Human, and will permanently go hostile if attacked, or disappear, without a chance to do penance from that Paul Bearer dude under the bell tower. For instance, I just found the Giant Blacksmith, and evidently griefers like to invade and try to make you fight in his room so you accidentally attack him, removing his services from the game for that playthrough.
I'm sure there are other ways to bone someone by invading at just the right moment.
Fuck that.
Incendiary
Banned
The first time I fought S&O, I ended up soloing them as a thief/pyro hybrid. It was difficult but doable, not nearly as terrible as you make it out to be. Once you know their tactics they're fairly easy to dodge, as long as you're mindful to keep track of both and not just one.
I think the most important part of playing online is getting the messages of other players. I really only go human when I'm about to try a boss I need help on, so I rarely get PVP'd. (Although it's basically a guarantee in NG+ that you're going to be invaded if you're human in the Undead Parish). I've never really co-op'd an entire area with anyone before, though.
You're missing so much by not being connected. A lot of the fun of exploring is the messages that are there to help or to troll you. Plus, co-oping in this game is a ton of fun. At first, I was very much against invasions, but after about 200 hours, it became my favorite part.
Multiple pinwheels was harder than Nito himself. Only problem with that fight was the stupid skeletons but the Sword of Atorias made work of them and then I just Crystal White Breathed Nito to death along with a few thunder spears. Neat?
Time to farm drops and stones, yay. :/
Time to farm drops and stones, yay. :/
H_Prestige
Banned
Just stay hollow. I'm not aware of any NPC quest line that depends on you being human, except summoning Solaire I guess.
I really wouldn't worry too much about people trying out elaborate griefing in your world, pretty much everyone wants to fight for souls/humanity or a few just find it fun and interesting hence honor duels. You're really degrading your experience if you don't at least try out the online modes.
The most griefing I ever get just results in me getting killed from cheap PvP tactics (which I'm not sure counts as griefing) while it may be a set back, isn't that big of a deal considering how much I die anyway.
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