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Ourobolus

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Ok...I've platinumed this game and have yet to do any co-op. Not for lack of trying, I just have never been able to play with anyone. I made a lv 55 sorc...anyone need help? I can't find anyone!!!!
 

Dresden

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Ok...I've platinumed this game and have yet to do any co-op. Not for lack of trying, I just have never been able to play with anyone. I made a lv 55 sorc...anyone need help? I can't find anyone!!!!

Go to Anor Londo or the Painted World, imo. It's always booming.
 
Update time: Beat Gaping Dragon, but I think Solaire died. Is that possible ? I summoned him before the fight. Also killed the giant rat in the sewers. Gaping Dragon dropped the Blighttown key, but the enemies there are super tough. Where should I go to now?
 

Dresden

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Update time: Beat Gaping Dragon, but I think Solaire died. Is that possible ? I summoned him before the fight. Also killed the giant rat in the sewers. Gaping Dragon dropped the Blighttown key, but the enemies there are super tough. Where should I go to now?

1. Phantoms dying won't matter.

2. You can head to the Catacombs, Darkroot, or Blighttown. You most likely just need a better weapon. Also the mobs there (the goblin things) are pretty durable, get used to backstabbing them.
 

2AdEPT

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Go to Anor Londo or the Painted World, imo. It's always booming.

@ourobolus:

If not, try Gaping in the depths, or Queelag in blighttown...55 is high for those areas but you still might get a few if you wait 10 minutes...I wait all the time as PVP is really the most fun part of the game for me now after 3-4 characters and multiple playthroughs...never really appealed to NG+'s nor platinums etc.

Better yet start a new character! Its fun to try again form scratch, but you will always get more PVP at lower levels...I have one character permanently at SL29 and he has a range as high as anor londo for gettitng summoned.....lots of people stayuing at lower levels the whole game now...its just more versatile to do it that way...you dont have to be a griefer to do get all the good equipmewnt staying low..you can help noobs for PVP...this to me is the most rewarding aspect of the game.
 
1. Phantoms dying won't matter.

2. You can head to the Catacombs, Darkroot, or Blighttown. You most likely just need a better weapon. Also the mobs there (the goblin things) are pretty durable, get used to backstabbing them.

How do you get to the catacombs?

My weapon is halebrad+3 with 120 dmg, I think.
 

2AdEPT

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Update time: Beat Gaping Dragon, but I think Solaire died. Is that possible ? I summoned him before the fight. Also killed the giant rat in the sewers. Gaping Dragon dropped the Blighttown key, but the enemies there are super tough. Where should I go to now?

If you have the master key, and even if you don't for that matter (as you can run by the drakes by goign throughtthe darkroot basin as well), you cna go backwards through blighttown. THere is absolutely no eveidence for the developers intending for you to do it a certain way, so don't feel you ahve ot do it one way just becuase people say you shoudl go through it one way first them try permuations later........goign backwards IS intended by the developers or they wouldn't have made a back door, given you the only smart option in the gift area as master key, AND put the backdoor to blighttown steps from firelink....just know you ahve an option, and having the slumbering drgaoncrest ring (drop if you kill griggs of vinheim form lower burg, or treeausre in sens' fortress) which will make you silent...when you get to those monsters that seem tough to you..their backs will be wide open and they won't hear you approach! talk about vindication!!!!

TO me the best plan is to ring both bells as fast as possible as this opens you up to the best equipment choices as fast as possible....the rest is up to you. I have also made characters who did the catacombs first in order to work on the rhea and patches vendors, as well as to get the rite of kindling which enables you to kindle fires so that you get +20 estus right off the start. NOtwithstanding, catacomsnb is usualy tough for noobs and vets alike owing to the skellies regenerating without divine weapons, and their keepers are sometimes dificult to kill at low levels if you don't already know where you are going. Still, there is not one area of the game that a noob can't ace with a little ingenuity and patience.
 

J-Roderton

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Defeated the Iron Golem boss without taking a hit. Wow. Nice to be in Anor Londo. This place looks awesome as far as the environment goes. Really cool.

I read that I can use Quelaag's Soul to make a sword. How do I go about doing that?
 

tc farks

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So I started messing around in NG+ even though I said I was going to wait. The Great Hollow and Ash Lake were the only places I haven't been yet. So I went for it, had a good time. I remember someone talking about how serene Ash Lake is, no doubt. Grabbed some dragon scales, got the Dragon Greatsword (even though my strength is at 16) and joined the covenant...all good.

Then it hit me that I can't warp anymore. Holy fuck I should have waited.
 

tc farks

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Defeated the Iron Golem boss without taking a hit. Wow. Nice to be in Anor Londo. This place looks awesome as far as the environment goes. Really cool.

I read that I can use Quelaag's Soul to make a sword. How do I go about doing that?

You can use her soul to make the Chaos Blade or Furysword. Furysword is the right choice. Upgrade a curved sword to +10, ex. scimitar, and then use the Giant blacksmith in Anor Lando to upgrade that with the Quelaag boss soul.
 
The graveyard next to firelink.

You need a better weapon. Just upgrade that halberd to +5, at the very least.

Whats the best place to get tetonite drops?

If you have the master key, and even if you don't for that matter (as you can run by the drakes by goign throughtthe darkroot basin as well), you cna go backwards through blighttown. THere is absolutely no eveidence for the developers intending for you to do it a certain way, so don't feel you ahve ot do it one way just becuase people say you shoudl go through it one way first them try permuations later........goign backwards IS intended by the developers or they wouldn't have made a back door, given you the only smart option in the gift area as master key, AND put the backdoor to blighttown steps from firelink....just know you ahve an option, and having the slumbering drgaoncrest ring (drop if you kill griggs of vinheim form lower burg, or treeausre in sens' fortress) which will make you silent...when you get to those monsters that seem tough to you..their backs will be wide open and they won't hear you approach! talk about vindication!!!!

TO me the best plan is to ring both bells as fast as possible as this opens you up to the best equipment choices as fast as possible....the rest is up to you. I have also made characters who did the catacombs first in order to work on the rhea and patches vendors, as well as to get the rite of kindling which enables you to kindle fires so that you get +20 estus right off the start. NOtwithstanding, catacomsnb is usualy tough for noobs and vets alike owing to the skellies regenerating without divine weapons, and their keepers are sometimes dificult to kill at low levels if you don't already know where you are going. Still, there is not one area of the game that a noob can't ace with a little ingenuity and patience.

I do have the master key, so I if got to the cemetary Ill end up going to the back of Blightown? Im lvl 33 at the moment. The skeletons still seem tough to me.
 

tc farks

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Quelana of Izalith has such a nice voice. I enjoy her company. I'm not sure what thousand year old pussy would be like but I'd give it a shot.
 

2AdEPT

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Whats the best place to get tetonite drops?



I do have the master key, so I if got to the cemetary Ill end up going to the back of Blightown? Im lvl 33 at the moment. The skeletons still seem tough to me.

No. Blighttown back door is directly below firelink:

1.) go toward the guy sitting at firelink and turn left down stairs, go down the elevator to new londo ruins gate
2.) go to the door to the right of the elevator area once you are down
3.) use master key to open gate up the stairs .
4.) there is a bridge to your left; cross it and enter cave. Cave holds three giant ogres...at level 33 you could fight them if you have a stable shield upgraded or feel lucky as they are slow (but their club swings track so don't get cocky!)...better to reduce your equip laod and run by them..tehy will follow you and fall of the ledge if you wait atthe ladder to go down into blighttown..500 souls each for cheap.
5.) biggest benefit of goign backdoor is there is a real hot bonfire for PVP at your level at the bottom of the ladder maze and a water wheel. Juts go into the cave at the left of the water wheel.

IN order to best prepare for blightown you should bring a lot of humanity for pvp hiring...have spent some time in Darkroot collecting purple moss, and preferably gone back to asylum revisited to get the rusted ring which will allow you to run and roll in the swamp a tthe bottom of blighttown.

secondary benefits are easy access to a plethora of game clinching equipment like a very stable shield, 3-4 armour sets, a firekeepers soul, several cool weapons, and easy access to queelag who once killed gives you access to the bell, access to pyro vendor, access to cool covenant, access to the best armour in early game via a suicide or home bone run to vist the demon's ruins, just an awesome point of the game for many reasons...why wait for it?

regualr titanite drops are not really that important as you can buy them for 800 souls from andre.black knights drop titanite but I usually save them for later when I can get my item drop up so that they drop thier weapon as well. you can buy titanite large shards from a vendor once you ring both bells and go to sen's fortress. all the titanite drops I can thionk of are in ses' sanyway so someone else migth be a better refernce if you don]t want to buy them...o h yeah that big black armour wearing guy oint eh church drops titanite, but you prolly already killed him.
 

2AdEPT

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Quelana of Izalith has such a nice voice. I enjoy her company. I'm not sure what thousand year old pussy would be like but I'd give it a shot.

I'm with you on that one bro....gynivere is a fake...but peeling off that gold hemmed set yikes.....then again we've all beeen burnt on the nice voice (and face) before right..............and I know its ben mentioned beofre but maybe a couple realize why there are tonnes of female characters out there...if I'm playuing third person and staring at an ass for 200 hours it better be decent.........that is all.
 
No. Blighttown back door is directly below firelink:

1.) go toward the guy sitting at firelink and turn left down stairs, go down the elevator to new londo ruins gate
2.) go to the door to the right of the elevator area once you are down
3.) use master key to open gate up the stairs .
4.) there is a bridge to your left; cross it and enter cave. Cave holds three giant ogres...at level 33 you could fight them if you have a stable shield upgraded or feel lucky as they are slow (but their club swings track so don't get cocky!)...better to reduce your equip laod and run by them..tehy will follow you and fall of the ledge if you wait atthe ladder to go down into blighttown..500 souls each for cheap.
5.) biggest benefit of goign backdoor is there is a real hot bonfire for PVP at your level at the bottom of the ladder maze and a water wheel. Juts go into the cave at the left of the water wheel.

IN order to best prepare for blightown you should bring a lot of humanity for pvp hiring...have spent some time in Darkroot collecting purple moss, and preferably gone back to asylum revisited to get the rusted ring which will allow you to run and roll in the swamp a tthe bottom of blighttown.


secondary benefits are easy access to a plethora of game clinching equipment like a very stable shield, 3-4 armour sets, a firekeepers soul, several cool weapons, and easy access to queelag who once killed gives you access to the bell, access to pyro vendor, access to cool covenant, access to the best armour in early game via a suicide or home bone run to vist the demon's ruins, just an awesome point of the game for many reasons...why wait for it?

Thanks for the tips. I actually havent explored Darkroot or been back to the Asylum. Should I go there next before heading down to blightown?
 

2AdEPT

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Thanks for the tips. I actually havent explored Darkroot or been back to the Asylum. Should I go there next before heading down to blightown?

just to warn you...as you already found out at the front door...blighttown can be very annoying at the best of times, irregardless of the door you choose......being unprepared makes this worse...potentially even controller throwing annoying...just sayin!! ;P

IT is not 100% mandatory but very very helpful pot get what I mention. What you face if you don't is getting poisoned just for walking in the water and haveing to use a tonne of estus, which you probably want to save for the boss. even if you hire help you will want to feed them estus as that is the best way for them to get health (their esuts does not work while they are helping you) SO that poison relief is the purple moss from the simple tree crteatures in darkroot...not too dangerous so definitely go there....run by the lightnign throwing dude below the chiurch if you have to.

many people don't even know they can go back to asylum ...should I spoil this for you? I wanted to figrue it out my own but couldn't and had ot ask for help on my first playthrough. If you do not get the ring its really not as bad as not having the healing moss, but keep in mind you will be spending extra time in the posion then, and won't be yourself if you are a rolling character (no rolling sucks for me, maybe less of a concern for a tanked out character.)

another option is to find a really good armour set that has high poison resist..if you started as a pyro you are well on your way..this set is founf in blightown inteh swamp pretty much startight accross the water form teh bonfire near the wheel,,,but it is still nice to have both the ring, and the moss clumps along with high poison resist, there is alos a poison bite ring form the vendor in the church but it is 15000 souls.

edit: going home from work...be back in half an hour...would love to help you with queelag, or even escort you through blightown if you wish!!!! got a 29 level pyro just waiting to go! Let me know ....adepterik2 on PSN.
 

tc farks

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Cursebite ring and rusted iron ring make Blighttown so much more tolerable. And a little bit of purple moss of course. I hated it my 1st playthrough when I didn't grab the rusted iron ring yet and just wanted to get out of there. It's why I ended up skipping The Great Hollow/Ash Lake 1st time through just because I didn't feel like walking over there.
 
Is it possible to reach the lake in Blightown from the Valley of the Drakes before you activate that big wheel thing? I'm running around on this scaffolding shit and I don't feel like falling off anymore.

Edit: Nevermind.
 
Question about levelling up in this game. I have both my STR and DEX at 40, but it seems like they aren't going to raise my actual strength anymore. Is the only reason to raise STR or DEX for use in weapon scaling at this point? My weapon of choice is pretty much all the time a Longsword +15(C scaling for STR and DEX) and a Compound Shortbow +14 and an eagle shield. The past few levels I've been upgrading my endurance and vitality.

BTW, I'm on my NG+ at level 113 and I'm pretty much tearing through the game. Also, I know scaling goes from E to S in order of how much, but how do you know how much extra oomph is being put in? Is there a way to tell on the stat screen?
 

2AdEPT

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Is it possible to reach the lake in Blightown from the Valley of the Drakes before you activate that big wheel thing? I'm running around on this scaffolding shit and I don't feel like falling off anymore.

Edit: Nevermind.

half hour i'll be home to do quellag or blighttown tours as a phantom..offer goes for all:

adepterik2 on PSN
 
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Wool

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Question about levelling up in this game. I have both my STR and DEX at 40, but it seems like they aren't going to raise my actual strength anymore. Is the only reason to raise STR or DEX for use in weapon scaling at this point? My weapon of choice is pretty much all the time a Longsword +15(C scaling for STR and DEX) and a Compound Shortbow +14 and an eagle shield. The past few levels I've been upgrading my endurance and vitality.

BTW, I'm on my NG+ at level 113 and I'm pretty much tearing through the game. Also, I know scaling goes from E to S in order of how much, but how do you know how much extra oomph is being put in? Is there a way to tell on the stat screen?

Yeah, the first number in each column on the weapon's info screen is the base damage it does of each type of damage. The second number will be +X damage, which is decided by the stat scaling. If you hit triangle then you can easily see the total damage that the weapon does over on the right-hand side of the screen.

If you were to keep your strength and dex at 40 each, it looks like the longsword would be doing 408 damage. You could stick with that if you're really digging the moveset, but there are a lot of weapons that would be doing more damage with the same stats at +15. You can check it out for yourself on the stat calculator.
 
Yeah, the first number in each column on the weapon's info screen is the base damage it does of each type of damage. The second number will be +X damage, which is decided by the stat scaling. If you hit triangle then you can easily see the total damage that the weapon does over on the right-hand side of the screen.

If you were to keep your strength and dex at 40 each, it looks like the longsword would be doing 408 damage. You could stick with that if you're really digging the moveset, but there are a lot of weapons that would be doing more damage with the same stats at +15. You can check it out for yourself on the stat calculator.

Ahh thanks. The thing I'm wondering about is if I should bother to keep leveling my STR/DEX at this point or is it a waste since it doesn't actually add to my strength anymore, only scaling. I would like to stick with the longsword since thats what I'm used to. I'm planning on beating NG+ and most likely going into NG++.

EDIT:Nevermind, I started putting numbers in orders of 10 for both and it doesnt seem to increase much at all. :lol
 
Before I go and upgrade this, if I were to get a Chaos Longbow, how much damage would it do if I didn't have 10 humanity equipped, assuming its potential with 10 humanity is 417 damage (as seen on above calculator stats). Does anyone know how the humanity scaling works?
 

Dresden

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Ahh thanks. The thing I'm wondering about is if I should bother to keep leveling my STR/DEX at this point or is it a waste since it doesn't actually add to my strength anymore, only scaling. I would like to stick with the longsword since thats what I'm used to. I'm planning on beating NG+ and most likely going into NG++.

EDIT:Nevermind, I started putting numbers in orders of 10 for both and it doesnt seem to increase much at all. :lol

Yeah, there's a big dropoff after 40 for most weapons. Only reason to go above that is to satisfy stat requirements for certain weapons.
 
Yeah, there's a big dropoff after 40 for most weapons. Only reason to go above that is to satisfy stat requirements for certain weapons.

Alrighty. I've been alternative upping my Endurance and Vitality back and forth, but, I may stop with vitality since its not adding THAT much more anymore. Adding more stamina to my bar is helping me fend off a crazy amount of attacks.
 

Dresden

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Alrighty. I've been alternative upping my Endurance and Vitality back and forth, but, I may stop with vitality since its not adding THAT much more anymore. Adding more stamina to my bar is helping me fend off a crazy amount of attacks.

Just remember that the 40 rule applies to endurance and vitality too. Only stats that are nice at 50 are Faith and Int, imo.
 
Ummm...is there any easy way to get back to Firelink Shrine from the bottom of the Fire Area? Just beat Ceaseless, killed all the Minotaur looking guys and the gate is yellow (the one with the bridge that leads to it) and I don't really wanna backtrack all the way back up =X
 
Just remember that the 40 rule applies to endurance and vitality too. Only stats that are nice at 50 are Faith and Int, imo.

Ahh, ok I'll keep that in mind.

Ummm...is there any easy way to get back to Firelink Shrine from the bottom of the Fire Area? Just beat Ceaseless, killed all the Minotaur looking guys and the gate is yellow (the one with the bridge that leads to it) and I don't really wanna backtrack all the way back up =X

Nope, gotta go back through craptown. Head to sen's fortress(where the gates have been closed, its near the bonfire next to the first blacksmith) and then onto the next area. When you beat that next area, you'll get an item that will let you warp to specific bonfires.
 

Mephala

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Ummm...is there any easy way to get back to Firelink Shrine from the bottom of the Fire Area? Just beat Ceaseless, killed all the Minotaur looking guys and the gate is yellow (the one with the bridge that leads to it) and I don't really wanna backtrack all the way back up =X

You need to fight your way back to Blight Town, from there you can use the water wheel short cut back to Fire Link.
 
Ahh, ok I'll keep that in mind.



Nope, gotta go back through craptown. Head to sen's fortress(where the gates have been closed, its near the bonfire next to the first blacksmith) and then onto the next area. When you beat that next area, you'll get an item that will let you warp to specific bonfires.

You need to fight your way back to Blight Town, from there you can use the water wheel short cut back to Fire Link.

Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooo. SL 115 on NG+ but man I wanna warp so bad.
 

2AdEPT

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Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooo. SL 115 on NG+ but man I wanna warp so bad.

I realize you weren't planning on the door being shut, but if you plan your bonfires and don't rest at the one before the gate you can homeward bone back. don 't forget your bones!

Just got summoned back to back to back 5 times in blighttown at level 28....5 humanity plus qeelag kills plus mildred x3 = 82,000 souls in 20 minutes! hosts are basically just waiting for a sign to appear...only duoed half of these....not much help here but lots of hosts!

oops here we go again!.....aw geez this host died on the AOE flame.....gotta have some reserve!?!?!
 

Wool

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Just remember that the 40 rule applies to endurance and vitality too. Only stats that are nice at 50 are Faith and Int, imo.

I took vitality to 50 on my main character, it doesn't diminish terribly until after 50. At 30 vitality you have 1100HP, at 40 you have 1325, at 50 you have 1500. So, you gain 50 less HP going from 40 to 50 than the previous 10 levels. If you take it any farther than that it's a huge waste though, 60 vitality would put you at 1588.
 

edbrat

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Nice to be in Anor Londo. This place looks awesome as far as the environment goes. Really cool.

I read that I can use Quelaag's Soul to make a sword. How do I go about doing that?

I think getting to Anor Londo for the first time is one of my most memorable gaming moments this gen: the hard slog through blightown followed by dying so often in sens, then it all just opens out with that glorious vista when you first arrive. So distinct spatially and design-wise from what you have been struggling through for the previous (for me anyway) 10-12 hours. And it is so quiet by comparison, it is all a truly breath taking piece of game design. And now I mainly hang out in AL helping noobs and cooping for O&S, I must have killed those buggers over 50 times now. Occasionally pop off somewhere else to do something or other, but I always return to AL to chill on the bridge and see if anyone hits my sign.

For Queelags furysword, upgrade any curved sword to +10, then take it to the giant blacksmith in AL.
 

Soulhouf

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So I started messing around in NG+ even though I said I was going to wait. The Great Hollow and Ash Lake were the only places I haven't been yet. So I went for it, had a good time. I remember someone talking about how serene Ash Lake is, no doubt. Grabbed some dragon scales, got the Dragon Greatsword (even though my strength is at 16) and joined the covenant...all good.

Then it hit me that I can't warp anymore. Holy fuck I should have waited.

Did you manage to go back? I was wondering how you can go back from Ash Lake if you don't have the Lord Vessel.
 
I think getting to Anor Londo for the first time is one of my most memorable gaming moments this gen: the hard slog through blightown followed by dying so often in sens, then it all just opens out with that glorious vista when you first arrive. So distinct spatially and design-wise from what you have been struggling through for the previous (for me anyway) 10-12 hours. And it is so quiet by comparison, it is all a truly breath taking piece of game design. And now I mainly hang out in AL helping noobs and cooping for O&S, I must have killed those buggers over 50 times now. Occasionally pop off somewhere else to do something or other, but I always return to AL to chill on the bridge and see if anyone hits my sign.

For Queelags furysword, upgrade any curved sword to +10, then take it to the giant blacksmith in AL.

I am still at Anor now (at the end), I've spent hours there now as I love the place and the 11.3k run from Bonfire, two big guards and a bunch of Silver Knights is great for some levelling. Is the Queelag Furysword definitely the way to go? Hmm can't buy a Curved Sword here, I guess right back at the first Blacksmith of even first merchant?

Looking at this video here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_YxIhY974U ), does it matter which curved sword you convert? The one he uses isn't a standard sword, will that affect overall power?
 

Ristlager

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In Sen's castle at the top where you fight a lonely huge knight right after the bonefire. I can see a lonely huge giant (same as the boulderthrowing giant) standing alone on top of the castle, not exactly on top but he is on the lower roof of the building with the lonely tower you can get to buy crossing a bridge (where you kill a knigh leaving the Richards sword (or something). How do you get to him? I saw that someone had placed a marker there.
 

krakov

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In Sen's castle at the top where you fight a lonely huge knight right after the bonefire. I can see a lonely huge giant (same as the boulderthrowing giant) standing alone on top of the castle, not exactly on top but he is on the lower roof of the building with the lonely tower you can get to buy crossing a bridge (where you kill a knigh leaving the Richards sword (or something). How do you get to him? I saw that someone had placed a marker there.
If you go down bottom of sens where the titanite demons are there is an illusionary wall on the way out. Right after the long ladder up.
 
Argh whats the fucking point in some IDIOT coming in and killing me when I am fighting a fucking big bunch of guards?! PS3 > Set offline.

Stupid.
 

krakov

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What is the best way to get some low-mid level PVP going in this game? I feel the forest was kind of intended for this but it´s probably one of the most abused arenas of the game since there's no cap. PVP gets awfully boring awfully quick when you see the same shit all day long.

Also, what is the cap for Darkmoon invasions? got invaded by a SL97 with my SL36 character the other day, in darkroot. From my experience the blue stone doesn't work very well.
 
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