whats the easiest route back to the darkroot forest? im currently at the firelink shrine. and does anyone know why i cant drop my cracked red orbs?
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whats the easiest route back to the darkroot forest? im currently at the firelink shrine. and does anyone know why i cant drop my cracked red orbs?
sonicspear64
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I slowed down a bit on my end game quest before NG+. I've finally made Anor Londo dark and crafted weapons from all my boss souls. I rejoined the Forest Hunter covenant. Today I got summoned to the forest and battled a guy with full Havel's and BKGA. He tried to time a plunge attack by the stairs and take me out right as I came in. I got away and a red phantom invaded 30 secs later. I had no idea that black and red phantoms could exist in the same game. So we chase this guy to the small bridge by Alvina and he's stuck on the stairs with me at the back and the red phantom in the front. We just kept him sandwiched there with great combustion. Eventually, he goes back to the small bridge and we're in between him. Long story short, I Soul Speared him in the back and the other guy took him out. I got indicted though. I thought it doesn't work on black phantoms or is it only Darkmoon Blades?
I think I may know why, you probably have them equipped in your Quick Item menu. Take them off your equipment, then go into the item menu to drop them. There will be a little red icon (looks like a Wax stamp) next to items if they are equipped, and you cannot drop equipped items.
Ah you are probably right! I already did the grinding route but if I ever get cursed again i will be sure to unequip first. Thanks!
Also, I keep giving that blacksmith my special items. I forgot which but I've given him two so far(the blacksmith right before darkroot gardens). Will he eventually give me something back in return? A special weapon maybe? And where do I find the lady that the knight in firelink shrine was going to protect/escort but now shes lost?
Those items you are giving to the blacksmith are embers, they allow you to upgrade your weapons further and down specific upgrade paths. I assume you have given him the Large ember and the Divine ember. The large ember allows for Normal and Raw weapon reinforcement. You can take a weapon to +5, then ascend it to Normal +6, or Raw. Normal is better for long term, but Raw is good for short term. Raw maxes at +5, and Normal at +10. Divine is Faith based, so if you don't have high faith, don't bother with it. You take a weapon to +5, then ascend it to Divine with Green Titanite shards. You can then take it to Divine +5.
You will run into the woman that was at Firelink later in the game, don't worry about it too much now.
MutantCyborg
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I accidentally killed Griggs when I was doing the lower level of the Undead Burg, how screwed am I? I don't plan using magic too much but I hope I didn't mess up my game before I get to far into it.
Also, any tips on killing the Gaping Dragon? I have been summoning the two phantoms on the stairs to make it a little bit easier. The boss is usually a little lower than half health after both of the phantoms die. At this point he is usually on all fours so I can easily get a few hits in before he gets mad at me and rears up. Which is usually where I die because I have no distance on him.
I've been using the strategy outlined on the Dark Souls Wiki, but I don't think it is getting through to me. Is there I time limit on the phantoms lives? They seem to die around the same time each fight, if only these two stayed up a bit longer this fight would be cake.
Also, any tips on killing the Gaping Dragon? I have been summoning the two phantoms on the stairs to make it a little bit easier. The boss is usually a little lower than half health after both of the phantoms die. At this point he is usually on all fours so I can easily get a few hits in before he gets mad at me and rears up. Which is usually where I die because I have no distance on him.
I've been using the strategy outlined on the Dark Souls Wiki, but I don't think it is getting through to me. Is there I time limit on the phantoms lives? They seem to die around the same time each fight, if only these two stayed up a bit longer this fight would be cake.
Griggs dead isn't a big deal if you're not planning on using magic. You can get a couple basic spells from the blacksmith at the beginning of New londo ruins (he's at the end of a broken staircase).
There's no time limit on phantoms lives. But, they can't heal with estus flasks - they rely on yours. So you gotta watch both their HP bars and chug accordingly. Gaping Dragon isn't hard at all once you can tell what attacks he's gonna do. Just dont get near his legs when he's shuffling forward, run away when he jumps up, and dodge/block the tail attack. Aim your attacks for the tail until the tail comes off, you'll get a weapon drop an the fight will be a little easier because he won't have massive range with that annoying tail swipe. Like all boss fights in this game, don't try to get greedy with getting in as many hits as possible. Only attack when safe. If you're around level 15/PS3 I can help
MutantCyborg
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Oh man, I never knew they healed when you did, that makes this fight much easier! Thanks for the help.
ShyGuy0504
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Um, I just went back to Firelink and now
there's a person sitting underneath the tunnel that takes you to Undead Burg. How do I get over there? Do I just jump off the the side?
you can jump over or fall down to the bottom of the bridge
H_Prestige
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LOL, beating up low level invaders in undead burg is pretty funny. I'm keeping taurus, capra, and gaping dragon alive for this reason.
Also got summoned in the beginning of anor londo and all three of us were using upgraded black knight greataxes and halberds. I've never seen sentinels die so fast. Just tore through the whole place.
Also got summoned in the beginning of anor londo and all three of us were using upgraded black knight greataxes and halberds. I've never seen sentinels die so fast. Just tore through the whole place.
ShyGuy0504
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I figured it would be something simple like that. I kept thinking that I would have to do something before I could get over there. Thanks for the quick reply.
To clarify, only human-controlled phantoms heal when you use an Estus Flask, NPC phantoms have a set quantity of HP that can't be restored by anything you do. The only NPC phantom who can heal is Leeroy, who has a shield that slowly restores his HP and can also cast miracles to restore his health.
If you're summoning Solaire and Lautrec there's not much you can do to keep them alive against the Gaping Dragon. The NPC phantom AI isn't all that great in general, and it does not deal well at all with the high-damage, wide-area attacks that the Gaping Dragon uses. Probably the best way to extend their usefulness for that fight is to summon them both, run to the other side of the arena near the waterfall and the drop-off that the dragon came up, and just try to draw its attention. I actually managed to keep Solaire alive through that fight once by basically constantly keeping myself on the opposite side of the dragon from him and drawing aggro so most attacks wouldn't land anywhere near him. Doing everything in your power to make the dragon attack you instead of the phantoms is kind of at loggerheads with the rationale behind summoning them in the first place, though.
Did the NPC phantoms get a buff in 1.05? Mildred and Solaire seem to have pretty decent fire resistance.
On that started a new game to play at lvl. 50 and burned through 3 indictments on the way to Anor Londo.
-The lower depths? Not happy, but I'm fine.
-And the magical backstab (not a riposte) from the front at Sen's Fortress? Lag happens.
-But the invasion prior to Sen's Fortress? Why pvp in Blightown? Like the lag isn't bad enough. Let's add single digit frame rates so the experience is as awful as possible.
On a positive note, last night I lost to some light armor flipper in kiln due to a backstab when I mistimed a wrath of god. Indicted him, put down the blue stone. And won the rematch, now that I had a better idea of the connection.
Thanks for the info!
gaping dragon can be really easy if you know how to approach him and watch his movements. First when he's on 2 feet bait him to come at you, then he will stop for a split second before he swipes. at that point run the fuck away then turn and face him, he'll do his drop down attack but you'll already be far away. he'll then set up for his charging attack but at the distance youre at now he'll always miss. he takes a few moments after this to catch his breath, use this opportunity to strike a few times until he gets up again. run away, rinse and repeat. no need for helpers for this guy if you respect his attack patterns and only attack when he's catching his breath.
No, he is not available for every fight, but there is a way to have him help you with the final boss, I was able to do it on one of my playthroughs, he survived too, it was pretty awesome.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Take the elevator up to the church area and run straight out and across the bridge to the next bonfire that leads to the blacksmith and darkroot garden.
which fights is he unavailable?
Easier if I list the ones that he is available,
Gargoyles, Gaping Dragon, S & O, Centipede Demon, Gwyn.
Unless I am missing some, I think that is it.
ahhh kk makes sense thanks
I don't think they did, but since basically everything specific about the phantoms is completely opaque to the player I suppose it's not impossible.
Mildred's actually sort of an interesting case, in that you can get her to kill Quelaag without ever once hitting her yourself if you can keep her from ever getting into one of the situations that her AI is completely unable to deal with. It's the same basic idea as the Gaping Dragon, in that you need to make sure that all of Quelaag's attacks that Mildred can't handle get directed at you. Mildred basically can't handle Quelaag's fire spew, and she falls apart if she ever gets cornered, so if you can wrangle a situation where you keep both Quelaag and Mildred in the center of the arena and make sure that Quelaag's flaming bulimia never cuts off Mildred's path of attack she'll win it for you without you ever needing to swing a weapon.
It's kind of a fun challenge to set for yourself on subsequent playthroughs, manipulating the bosses in such a way that your phantoms win the AI Combat Theater.
J-Roderton
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Well, plan was to finish the game this weekend. Probably going to take a while longer. Stuck on Bed of Chaos. Gonna have to try and summon someone or just keep trying solo. Class starts on Tuesday for my university so I'll probably try to knock it out tomorrow.
Not sure if summoning anyone for bed of chaos is going to be helpful, considering that it's not an actual boss fight.
Mr_Appleby
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Moonlight Butterfly is similarly doable as a "Hands-Off" affair. Don't think you even have to draw aggro, just sit back and watch.
Cloudius12
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don't think that is possible.
NEOPARADIGM
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Correct.
Moonlight Butterfly, Pinwheel, and to a lesser extent Iron Golem are pretty much gimmes, and barely even count as a challenge, I think. The real fun comes in trying to get Solaire to solo O&S or Beatrice to solo everybody's favorite disingenuously-numbered sovereigns.
I think the former might be possible if you get lucky, but I'm pretty sure the latter is completely outside the realm of plausibility.
Beatrix couldn't even handle one let alone all four.
I had this hollow summoned for the fight along with beatrix. The witch obviously got shut down immediately as the fight started and the hollow, well, he stood there as I try to take on the boss. He continued to watch as the kings slaughtered me. The thing that made me rage was, they only needed one more hit. One more hit. He only needed to hit them once with his magic imbued(yes he managed to do that much) axe to turn that fight around. But nope, he didn't.
Lost Fragment
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If I learned anything from prison, it's that accumulating unnecessary debt usually isn't a good idea.
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Nah, for real though, I don't make deals like that. I'll probably be farming a good amount of titanite chunks so if I get a slab to drop I'll let you know, though. I don't plan on raising my int above 32 so I don't absolutely need the sword, but I did want to mess around with it.
Or we can make things double complicated and I can just get a slab off a different character I don't want the sword on, heh.
Three approaches:
what you described is vit gouging, stacking tons of hp and endurance while wielding elemental weapons for minimal stat investment. Popular weapon choices: claymores for stunlocking, zweihanders for scrubbing, or chaos rapiers with the hornet ring for backstab fishing.
Then you have 40vit/40end with a stacked damaging stat of your choice, like dexterity, faith, strength, int. Stuff like mages or wrath of the gods spammers would belong here.
Finally some people use weapon enchants like the Darkmoon Blade or CMW, which require a combination of stats to use.
Pretty much, for Soul Level 120-130, 40 END and then 30-50 VIT is standard. Then you focus on either STR or DEX, and either FAITH or INT, and about 19-23 ATT for 5-6 slots.
Red Liquorice
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I don't think I've got the stomach for this game, I just can't get into it at all and I loved Demon's Souls.
Every time I pick it up, I die in Undead Burg and just think "fuck it" and turn it off! Not feeling it like Demon's Souls at all, what do I do?!
Every time I pick it up, I die in Undead Burg and just think "fuck it" and turn it off! Not feeling it like Demon's Souls at all, what do I do?!
If you are playing online, put your summon sign down and help some other players. You can learn the area and combat better, and earn some souls and humanity in the process. Just play slower and use a shield. If you don't have the patience to get through the learning curve, maybe you just don't want to play this type of game anymore.
Undead Burg is the hardest part of the game, not because it's the most difficult zone per se, but because you're not used to the game yet and die a lot by making stupid mistakes (even if you've played Demon's Souls to death).
I remember I was once to a point where I was considering abandoning the game because I couldn't beat the Taurus Demon; here I am now, ~140 hours later, nearing the end of my second character run, helping people beat Four Kings over and over and liking every second of it.
Persevere. You'll love yourself a little bit more after each progress you make.
NEOPARADIGM
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If you loved Demon's Souls you should already know the answer to this.
Patience, keep yo shield up, 1-on-1 encounters, etc.
You're being lazy and unfocused, admit it.
Or not. Just doing my part to say what you perhaps need to hear right now. YMMV.
Had a strange issue with the game last night. After being sent back from a successful darkmoon invasion my screen was all grey, almost like when your camera gets stuck on the other side of a fog door. I could see the HUD overlay and could enter the menus but not actually change anything. After about 30 seconds my HP went away sort of when falling into a hole and the you died-message appeared. Respawned at the bonfire with no humanity/souls and no trace of my soul spot anywhere. I was just hanging around the bonfire blue orbing beforehand.
Well there are 3 parts. So have everyone get in position before the first strike. In theory.
Put down your sign and help people beat them. You get practice and humanities.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Got your slab, Booshka.
So how does this work? You put down a sign in an obscure place or something?
So how does this work? You put down a sign in an obscure place or something?
Ghost_Protocol
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Can we have some kind of Demon's Souls/Dark Souls NPC character battle? The series is begging for it....
I believe it's the falling through the map glitch. I experienced it myself last night when a skeleton did a successful riposte, pushed me through the map in a falling animation and I died from the infinite fall.
FunkyPajamas
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How does that work?
J-Roderton
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Hit a wall with the Bed of Chaos and didn't touch the game for three days. Picked it up tonight and after six tries and 10 beers, I finally killed it. An hour later, I beat the game. Gwyn was surprisingly easy. I hadn't used the parry move the entire playthrough until then. Finished him up after a couple tries. Got some sweet Black Knight armor during the last area, too.
I'm so glad to finally finish this game. It was quite a trip. I figured after buying it that I may not ever finish it, but I did. Easily one of my top favorite games of all time. Easily GOTY material, and that's coming from someone that never really plays anything in the genre.
Loved the bosses, (even though many were some of the biggest pains in the ass ever.) Loved the combat, upgrading weapons, and I thought everything worked well as a whole. I do wish there were a little more as far as story goes, although I have never played Demon's Souls. Pretty cool, though, as it left a lot for the imagination.
Overall, I thought the game was phenomenal. Took me almost 50 hours, and I finished up around level 90. Truly an awesome game and a dark lonely atmosphere. I didn't really care for the PvP part but it was a nice change of pace from tearing through the areas. With a little tweaking, it could be a really fun part of the game.
Anor Londo is hands down the most enjoyable part of the game for me- once you are carried over the wall into the city. It was really a new game after that. So much to do in an awesome area.
I'm looking forward to starting NG+ after I take some time to play a few games I've missed in the past few months. A+, Dark Souls. Can't wait for the next one or some DLC.
I chose the ending that you get after leaving the area.
I'm so glad to finally finish this game. It was quite a trip. I figured after buying it that I may not ever finish it, but I did. Easily one of my top favorite games of all time. Easily GOTY material, and that's coming from someone that never really plays anything in the genre.
Loved the bosses, (even though many were some of the biggest pains in the ass ever.) Loved the combat, upgrading weapons, and I thought everything worked well as a whole. I do wish there were a little more as far as story goes, although I have never played Demon's Souls. Pretty cool, though, as it left a lot for the imagination.
Overall, I thought the game was phenomenal. Took me almost 50 hours, and I finished up around level 90. Truly an awesome game and a dark lonely atmosphere. I didn't really care for the PvP part but it was a nice change of pace from tearing through the areas. With a little tweaking, it could be a really fun part of the game.
Anor Londo is hands down the most enjoyable part of the game for me- once you are carried over the wall into the city. It was really a new game after that. So much to do in an awesome area.
I'm looking forward to starting NG+ after I take some time to play a few games I've missed in the past few months. A+, Dark Souls. Can't wait for the next one or some DLC.
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