palpabl_purpura
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So the monsters attacking me in Anor Londo are illusions created by Gwyndolin? Sounds like I need to kill the guy even more. I take it O&S are under his bidding as well?
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So the monsters attacking me in Anor Londo are illusions created by Gwyndolin? Sounds like I need to kill the guy even more. I take it O&S are under his bidding as well?
Yep.
They were basically the final test before Gwyndolin gives you the lordvessel.
We actually have no clue if they were the real Ornstein and Smough. I think they were because they drop their unique souls, though
Dark Souls 2 implies Ornstein somehow survived.
Stat requirements to wield weapons, pay attention to them when you check out a new weapon.
OdysseusVA
Banned
I met the Strength requirement and thought I could wing it by two-handing it... Nope.
Str requirement can be decreased by about 33% if you 2 hand. Dex requirements can not be decreased and must be met or exceeded to wield the weapon.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Okay, he's dead. I need a new bow anyway.
Orochinagis
Member
They are the real ones, the final test for the chosen undead to be worthy user of the lordvessel it also proved when you get a soul for each one them and the different outcomes when you defeat one of them
(Smoug killing onsteirn and absorbing his soul or Onsteirn absorbing smoug soul)
OdysseusVA
Banned
Ah, thanks for the tip!
palpabl_purpura
Member
Done. Now to craft that shiny new bow.
No it doesn't do that the weapon speeds stay the same as they always are.
Oh then I guess it's only for scaling then
Four black knights and I've fucked up all their drops :/
Scaling and requirements is all it is for. You can get all of their weapons later on in the game.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Darkmoon bow is awesome with moonlight arrows and the hawk ring. Glad I killed that manipulating scum. But I still don't understand, if Gwynevere is an illusion created by Gwyndolin, why didn't the illusion disappear when he died. So he vanquishes the illusion when you attack Gwynevere, thinking the fraud was exposed, but when he dies, why does the illusion persist? Me thinks that is the real Gwynevere.
Laurentius
Member
Possibly, although it's not entirely clear.
Go hit the "real" Gwynevere then.
There's a halberd wielding black knight in the tomb of the giants if you feel like retrieving it. Or the greataxe from the one in the catacombs.
If you kill her from outside he doesn't notice and anor londo doesn't change, it's probably a programming thing.
I'm going to give it a shot after I get the serpent ring, don't want to risk it.
And ten soft humanity so you get maximum item discovery. If you've got a symbol of avarice you could use that instead of the covetous ring to still get the max.
So... Ornstein and Smough down.
After three failed tries by myself, I was lucky and was able to summon two phantoms, one of which used magic and was ridiculously overpowered. We still didn't make it on our first try though, on our first one we killed Ornstein first and Smough killed all three of us when he was maybe at his last 5%.
I said "fuck it" and used another humanity, revived again and summoned the same two guys, and this time we killed Smough first. Ornstein with Smough's powers is easier than the other way around. Still, I have no idea how it's even possible to win that fight alone.
After three failed tries by myself, I was lucky and was able to summon two phantoms, one of which used magic and was ridiculously overpowered. We still didn't make it on our first try though, on our first one we killed Ornstein first and Smough killed all three of us when he was maybe at his last 5%.
I said "fuck it" and used another humanity, revived again and summoned the same two guys, and this time we killed Smough first. Ornstein with Smough's powers is easier than the other way around. Still, I have no idea how it's even possible to win that fight alone.
Its possible since I don't think I've summoned for that fight (or any fights) in quite a while. It just takes practice honestly. Once you know their movesets by heart, its not too hard to take them down.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Is Blight Town necessary? The framerate took a nosedive when I approached the ladder to go down...
Yeah. What system are you playing on?
Edit: You can skip a large part of it if you have the Master Key.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Laurentius
Member
360
Turned around and dipped into Undead Burg
Edit: I do
Undead Burg is where you want to be now, if you haven't finished that area. Also, the Master Key is what you used to go into Blighttown if you haven't gone through the Depths yet. That IS the shortcut that skips the upper part of blighttown, so unfortunately you will have to deal with the framerate issues there eventually.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Ah, so the shortcut was through the Valley of Drakes? Is there a recommended order to complete these levels? Burg, Depths, Blight Town, etc..
Currently lvl19 Pyro with Hollow Soldier Shield and Winged Spear.
Currently lvl19 Pyro with Hollow Soldier Shield and Winged Spear.
Laurentius
Member
There's quite a few ways you can go, which is part of what makes future playthroughs fun. But the best route for a first time player for the early game is Burg -> Parish -> Lower Undead Burg -> Depths -> Blighttown.
And yeah, the shortcut is the door you opened that led into the Valley of the Drakes.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Holy shit. That's impressive.
Now I feel kinda bad for having used summons.
Well, not really.
Tarkus
Member
The Depths is a great place for souls early in the game. Don't be afraid of the curse frogs.Thanks! I may play for a few before going to bed
Yeah, you shouldn't. O&S fight is one of the most common ones where people summon others for help. With just a single extra person the division of aggro makes things a lot easier.
Buuut, if you found yourself not finding anyone to summon then I would have just "#dealwithit #l2spatialawareness" because the fight is all about camera control, positioning, baiting attacks and listening where the occasional off-screen enemy is and what they're doing
I just started exploring the Depths this weekend. Easily the hardest area of the game to get a grasp of so far. In part because I fell in some holes a couple of times, lol. So I don't have a very good sense of where I am and where I've been. But I've killed a couple butchers, huge rat, and channeler. Left off at a fog door that will be for my next play session. And also found a narrow sloped path that may lead to a new area. Like I said, at this point, no idea, could lead to an area I already explored. But can't hurt to try and make a complete run through the level, to see if I missed any worthwhile pick-ups.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Impressive. There also are some other impressive ones out there. The one hit boss challenge and the crystal ring shield only challenge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4EY68yVzk
How do you even do that? Wow.
Hypermode (Red Tearstone Ring + Power Within) and the Dragon Torso buff, with the special attack from Dragon King Greataxe and Darkmoon Blade used at Covenant level 3.
It's the unpatched version, so GWG players can only connect to other players using the unpatched version.
See? I'm 23 hours into the game and I don't know what half of that stuff means lol
You should explore more I bet you've gone right past some things.
Metagaming, man. I've put nearly 400 hours into the game and I still don't know all of that stuff.
Jamesways
Member
That sucks. I've been prepping a character for a week to help the new players. Bummer. Probably won't do it again since I'm having fun with this one. Weapons and armor already near maxed and sitting on 400k souls to not level up.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Red tearstone buffs your damage (20-30%) I believe if you life is <20% health. Darkmoon buff is like sunlight blade or crystal magic weapon only more powerful since you level it up as part of the darkmoon covenant. TPW is a pyromancy spell which buffs your attack power, but also drains your HP. Dragon torso roar gives you a 30% damage buff for 6-7 seconds. The dragonking greataxe is the weapon you obtain by cutting the tail of gaping dragon. Obviously you need to be a strength build to make this work, as along with some faith for the darkmoon buff.
Orochinagis
Member
There is a shadow armor set (ninja armor) and bonfire there, enjoy the madness
...maybe?
I assume you've missed two covenants possibly three if you've not had a bit of an explore yet.
Probably, but I've did some exploring too, I'm not trying to rush through the game.
I'm trying to go into the game blind, so I don't know when I missed something.
Screaming Meat
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IAITO!
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