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Dark Souls |OT5| Definitely better than the sequel
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I feel like I'm missing something because I feel like I'm always low on humanity. As in, usually running with zero.
It's really the best way.
I used Jolly Co-operation to beat O&S.
It's really the best way.
Orochinagis
Member
On another note, what's the general consensus, RE: this thread's new title? I've been staying out of all DS2 discussions, as I'd like to go into the game blind when it comes out for PC. Without spoiling anything, are people saying that DS2 is better then DS1, or the other way around? Or are opinions largely split? (Such as how there are a fair amount of people that disagree on whether Dark Souls or Demon Souls is better.)
I am really enjoying DSII its practically a sequel not dark souls 1.5 reusing assets and sutff like sequels these days.
But some things like the bonfires are used more like a checkpoints rather than resting zones and less punishing when you learn how to be always a human.
You need to kill Sif for the Ring of Artorias and you need to kill Ingward to get the key to the seal, but other than that, you're free to kill them at any time.
Yep I've found my new Gywnevre... And this one has a sexy accent! Can you kill the 4 kings straight away, or do you need the lord vessel to access them?
General tips
- Keep both enemies in your view
- Use the pillars to separate the two, but again, always keep both enemies in your view
- Also stay near the pillars so you can easily avoid Smough's charging attacks. If you can't get behind a pillar, move back and then roll as he swings.
- For Ornstein's charge, dodge right or left or, if you're gutsy, forward. NEVER back. If you hear it from offscreen (whoosh sound), start rolling while you try to get a bead on him.
- Ornstein has two jumping attacks, a stab and an overhead chop. Stab can be dodged by rolling to side, chop is very difficult to dodge except at the last second.
- If you kill Ornstein first, you can bait out Super Smough's attacks and hit him during the recovery. Try to keep the two of you separated by the pillars.
- If you kill Smough first, stay up close to Super Ornstein. The only attacks you're vulnerable too up close are the predictable lightning buttslam and the grab which has a start-up of Ornstein jumping back. When his foot touches the floor, roll.
NG+ starts easy and gets much, much more difficult when you reach Anor Londo.
It takes the ring off of you if you already have it? Well sif is easy anyway, I'm going to leave wizard plumber alive though as he's curse removal.
I told that to myself, but then GHOSTS.
Red Liquorice
Member
Farm some. How far are you in the game?
The rats in the Depths is good early game for humanity. You also get one for killing a boss in co-op, plus tons of souls of course. The Abyss in the DLC is the other farming place. Some people use Tomb of Giants, but I always found it annoying since the drops from the
baby skeletons
I could tell how they could've been hard though. I just had the right moves and armor.
Astral/H3X
Member
As far as to which ending in Dark Souls is the canon ending, I'll just remind everything of one thing: Time is distorted in Lordran.
It's entirely possible that both endings are canon.
It's entirely possible that both endings are canon.
Orochinagis
Member
That dude still kills my mage with one hit in N+.
don't get hit. problem solved!
I just parried him on his second swing with my Black Knight Halberd +5 which combined with the Hornet Ring made me do nearly 1300 damage per hit.
How are ghost difficult to deal with, I mean there not exactly hard to kill?
wow. I don't have 32 STR to one hand the BKH
I decided to skip Tomb of Giants until I can try to find that light helmet or whatever. Currently chilling at the bonfire after Centipede Demon.
I personally found them a nightmare in NG+. Well, the ones in the second church anyway. I just kill the dude on top from a distance now and skip that part.
Well I'm about level 130 now on my NG+3 character.
The stunlock when there are at least 3 of them is ridiculous.
They can stun lock you? I just downed them in one hit in my first play through I don't think the ghosts ever actually killed me.
they are unpredictable and can stun lock you easily in groups that come out of nowhere.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That thing has carried me from my first visit to Darkroot Basin right through to the end. It supplanted the Iaito as my favourite weapon five minutes after picking it up. The stat investment is worth it IMO
lucky. It didn't drop for me in DRB, so I had to wait until the Kiln to get mine.
Orochinagis
Member
Ah the church part was annoying as hell, since they can kill you behind the wall and the screaming mother can stun you from distance
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
NinjaBoiX
Member
Yeah, goodies from the five black knights in the kiln have a 100% drop rate.
Edit: misread your post, ignore previous sentence!
I've just farmed enough red titanite to get a chaos weapon, I went for the Falchion. I love the moveset of this thing, the R2 is lush. I still need the slab to max it, but even with only one humanity in stock it's pretty lethal at +4.
I'm just going to kill Gwyn now, try the rest of the DLC and some other bits and pieces I missed on a NG+.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
DLC first! Game ends when you whack Gwyn!
Yeah make sure you've not missed anything first if you want to do it, I think I forgot valley of the drakes in my first playthrough I just used the blighttown shortcut for it oops.
The problem is when they group up on you. 1v1 they are no problem.
You were lucky. But if you licked the BKH you'd love the axe. Also Uchi > Iaito.
Orochinagis
Member
didnt the blightwon shortcut is on valley of drakes?
I was doing two to three at once with my claymore, I just cut through them as if they weren't there.
Yes it is that was the only part I actually used of the valley, I didn't explore it or anything.
Orochinagis
Member
Ah, its more like a corridor of death but apart from a ring there is nothing interesting there outside a shortcut from the garden.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Yeah, it seems to make more sense to carry on seeing as much as I can before I NG. I'll probably just want to blast through on a NG+.
I was testing you guys, I was hoping to be convinced!
I think I'll leave the two sanctuary guardians until a bit later though, probably go and kill Kalameet and then I'm not sure what else there is to do in the main game.
What's this VoD thing you're talking about Trooper? Also, any bosses I may have missed, areas I should go and check out?
I was testing you guys, I was hoping to be convinced!
I think I'll leave the two sanctuary guardians until a bit later though, probably go and kill Kalameet and then I'm not sure what else there is to do in the main game.
What's this VoD thing you're talking about Trooper? Also, any bosses I may have missed, areas I should go and check out?
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I wouldn't lick it. That shit is SHARP
I got the axe at the Kiln, it's awesome. All the BK weapons are great.
Nope
It's a valley full of drakes I think, I just poked my head around the door and left. It has an undead dragon in it.
I wouldn't lick it. That shit is SHARP
Nope
Damn my engrish... I meant "liked".
It's a personal taste. I like the thrust attack more than the slash.
Nothing wrong with a bit of thrusting action...
NinjaBoiX
Member
Guys:
lol
lol
That Uchi stab though, so useful! The double handed R2 is so cool too.Nope
Oh yeah, I know of it, I've had a little mooch, I just thought you knew a secret of some description.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Good man. It can save your bacon in tight corridors. I've used the Uchi for like 90% of my playthrough, it's a ma boi.
It has that witch ladies stuff after the four kings are killed, she a corpse like near the new londo entrance.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Pffft Uchi lovers.
When you take down a Black Knight and the last hit is with the Iaito R2, it makes you feel like a SAMURAI GOD.
When you take down a Black Knight and the last hit is with the Iaito R2, it makes you feel like a SAMURAI GOD.
How can you be a god with that puny weapon? I think a nice big man serpent sword is better...
NinjaBoiX
Member
Oh yeah, I forgot it led up to New Londo. I might go for a wander up, for old times sake.
The follow up R1 after the lunging stab with the Uchi is actually quite similar to the Iaito's R2 minus the lunge.
I'll be honest, I favour my Uchi out of habit and the fact that it's maxed. I just broke down my Iaito from a fire sword, so it's a lowly +5 at the mo!
Also, good call on the silver knights spear. I have that maxed too, a big R2 sweep just crushes a group of skellies. Massive reach, and you can block while using it. It's a fantastic weapon.
It's right opposite the blighttown cave you can't miss it on the ledge. So I assume all (excluding solaire) of the phantom's are from time before you even arrived and have been long dead?
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I have that on my STR. I can do more DPS with the Iaito. I know it's moves better too.
Speed trumps strength every time, Troop.
Oh hell yeah. It's a beaut for DEX builds.
You could have saved him from that fate if you wished to...
I know it does, I'll go sit in the corner and cry with all my heavy strength weapons that are slow.
NinjaBoiX
Member
+1 on the speed thing, it's not just a wise choice, it's more fun to play. I loathe tanking through a souls game, I can't believe I did it with demons.
I would just run around naked if I was farming or whatever!
I don't know where they go, they seem to just vanish at certain points, I rarely talk to them, a lot of the game outside the actual combat, systems and mechanics and stuff utterly eludes me. But I enjoy that in a way, it gives this sense of mystery.
I'd probably have gotten more out of the game by really getting involved with the lore, but I guess that ship has sailed.
I would just run around naked if I was farming or whatever!
I don't know, I haven't followed the plot/characters at all. I'm not sure what your mean. Solaire is the guy with the sun on his chest right? I know the merchants, Andre, Vamos and The Giant, and obviously bosses and stuff, but I almost ignored the NPC's.
I don't know where they go, they seem to just vanish at certain points, I rarely talk to them, a lot of the game outside the actual combat, systems and mechanics and stuff utterly eludes me. But I enjoy that in a way, it gives this sense of mystery.
I'd probably have gotten more out of the game by really getting involved with the lore, but I guess that ship has sailed.