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Days Gone Not Getting A Sequel Was Studio Bends Decision, The Game Was Cancelled Internally Before A Pitch Could Ever Reach Sony
The Cockatrice
Member
The truth is always in the middle. At the end of the day it doesnt matter whose to blame because we cant change shit and the reality is, we wnt get a sequel to such a great game. The true ending opened up so much potential and its horde system was amazing. Fucking shame.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
You guys ever notice how anyone that leaves Sony and talks about their experience there is publicly branded as "crazy?"
MagusMajul
Member
The game was a last of us rip off, we need an FPS adventure game like halo or killzone on ps5
The Cockatrice
Member
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Most overrated PS4 game there is. Also, is this the guy who would flip out when people called the enemies zombies? I know someone at Bend was doing that.
Cakeboxer
Member
TLOU? The game was more like a Ubisoft ripoff with absolutely terrible characters, super awful stealth missions and reputation grind.
Portugeezer
Member
Shouldn't need a pitch. Sony have have asked them to make Days Gone 2.
Buggy Loop
Member
Well, not surprised, his tweets and the fact he doesn't let go is pretty telling.
Topher
Identifies as young
Nah....just the crazy ones
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The Last of Us is a Resident Evil ripoff.
mayham2199
Member
Don't think Shawn Layden has ever been branded as crazy. Doubt Jim Ryan will be either. The guy who took anger management classes well yes I guess he was branded as crazy. I like Jaffee but he's kind of a weird dude so I can see why people would call him crazy but I don't think he is.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Because they both have zombies? Outside of the zombies they don’t play anything alike. I guess Days Gone was more cinematic than most open world games, but overall they aren’t really alike at all.
{insert code here}
Member
Branded as crazy and dog piled by the community. It's really sad.
Sethbacca
Member
Are you high? Days Gone and TLoU couldn't be more different. The only similarity is "zombies" and even then they're completely different genres of the beast.
And this dude being branded as crazy is the result of his own words. Sometimes you just let people talk and they sink their own ship. Who the hell would get outraged about a character they've created being recognized as an essential property and immortalized in such a fun game as this? Seems crazy to me.
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Nydius
Member
A completely irrelevant question. Sony bosses can’t green light a project by one of their studios if the studio bosses never pitch it to them in the first place.
The excuse of “we didn’t bother because we were sure Sony would have said no” is weak as fuck and shows a complete lack of leadership by the team at Bend. If they thought it was worth a sequel they should have, at the bare minimum, presented it. Then fought for it if they felt strongly enough.
How’s that adage go?
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take?
tmlDan
Member
There have been a ton of long time Sony people that left and are not crazy, Raf Grassetti was super popular and went to Netflix and he's normal/not branded negatively lol
Del Walker too, i guess most have positive experiences, but what do i know
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nial
Gold Member
Never happened with Fumito Ueda, Keiichiro Toyama, Cory Barlog (back in the day) Andrew House, Jim Ryan, Shawn Layden, etc.
The people you're thinking of? (David Jaffe and John Garvin) Well, that's because they actually are crazy.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
No, we didn't brand him crazy, He "acted" like a crazy ex. The proof is in the pudding
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Well, the "woke reviewer" argument is 100% DEFENSIBLE.
The way its presented makes it seem way more reactionary than it actually is. A number of outlets did penalize the game for its perceived lack of towing the line to progressive attitudes and politics. This is not opinion, but fact. The wedding scene was treated out of context to make the game seem sexist and regressive, when it actually isn't.
People forget how keen a lot of people were, frankly here as well as in the media, to shit all over Days Gone pre-release.
The way its presented makes it seem way more reactionary than it actually is. A number of outlets did penalize the game for its perceived lack of towing the line to progressive attitudes and politics. This is not opinion, but fact. The wedding scene was treated out of context to make the game seem sexist and regressive, when it actually isn't.
People forget how keen a lot of people were, frankly here as well as in the media, to shit all over Days Gone pre-release.
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TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I'm pretty sure that...this guy may just be a cunt.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
MagusMajul
Member
we just didn't need another game with zombies init that shit is played out
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Anyone? Really? Who else? Lmao
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m just thankful more resources weren’t wasted on a sequel. I’ve tried to play the first at least 3 different times. It’s just so dull.
It's a decent game. I enjoyed it, had it's flaws. But why he thinks it's the second coming of gaming jesus christ is beyond me. The horde was an interesting mechnaic but games like Serious Sam had similar, characters are pretty generic, story like wise, a slight riff of themes done before.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Woke reviewers was part of the problem though. He’s not wrong there. It released during the height of cancel culture and the IGN and Gamespot reviewer admitted to their low scoring collusion on Twitter. Complaining that it was a white guy, disgusted that it said ride me like you ride your bike, complained there were no freakers of color, etc.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Definitely should have gotten higher scores, it deserved at least low 80s
Sales were pretty good too
Sales were pretty good too
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I don’t think that’s exclusive to ex-Sony. I think most ex-employees for any company tend to be bitter as fuck. I mean, they’re “ex” for a reason. And some take it personally. Probably most. And hell hath no fury like a little bitch scorned.
Killjoy-NL
Member
But, but.... Ryan and Hulst....
Also, if they made Days Gone better, it would've sold better.
Also, if they made Days Gone better, it would've sold better.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
As for those of you who think Garvin is being unreasonably salty; how would you feel if what should have been the crowning achievement of your career was turned into a funeral pyre?
Most likely with no way back because he's (1) too old, (2) too opinionated about the wrong things, and, yes (3) probably too "white".
Because sadly, those things carry a lot more weight than talent when going to multinationals looking for tens of millions in multi-year funding.
Most likely with no way back because he's (1) too old, (2) too opinionated about the wrong things, and, yes (3) probably too "white".
Because sadly, those things carry a lot more weight than talent when going to multinationals looking for tens of millions in multi-year funding.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
This is reportedly not true. Sony rejected the pitch. It doesn't make sense for a studio to scrap a project that has sold 9 million copies and hinted a second part in the post-credit scene.
Anyway, both Sony and Bend will regret it when their next game inevitably flops. Then, the blame game will start and we will find out that both sides wanted Days Gone 2 all along.
Anyway, both Sony and Bend will regret it when their next game inevitably flops. Then, the blame game will start and we will find out that both sides wanted Days Gone 2 all along.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So Bend themselves didnt bother with DG2? I thought for years it was pitched and Sony execs declined???
One side is lying. Cant be both.
One side is lying. Cant be both.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The game was released in a much worse state than it is right now. It deserved its reviews back then.
King Dazzar
Member
I really liked it. I'd have liked to see the bike have deeper/better handling. But for a first go, I thought it was great. Personally I'd love to see a sequel.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup.
Someone quitting on their own for a better job and pay is one situation. Maybe good words, maybe bad words. But often one sided when anyone is fired, pushed out, or forgotten and has to quit to save sanity.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Nah. I got it Day 1 and only saw like 3 minor glitches.
ElFenomeno
Member
I tried playing Days Gone some time ago, on Extra I think. Man, I just gave up after a few hours.
Bland, didn't do anything particularly great, shooting was meh, boring open world.
I was also fed up at that time with open world games so that didn't help.
Bland, didn't do anything particularly great, shooting was meh, boring open world.
I was also fed up at that time with open world games so that didn't help.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
It didn't review poorly because of that. Days Gone was more polished than anything ever released by Bethesda or Ubisoft.
The media were trashing the game well before release.
Nydius
Member
This isn’t really new breaking news. We learned 2 years ago from Jaffe’s podcast that Bend, not Sony, shelved DG2. But that didn’t stop the internet from continuing to blame/roast Sony.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Dude, he's saying the opposite in the second tweet. They knew Sony would reject it.