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DC Comics announces "Doomsday Clock", starring Superman and some blue guy
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RoyaleDuke
Banned
How I feel right now. God, I love watchmen.
Tragicomedy
Member
Yeah, the ship has sailed. I don't have to like it, but DC will be milking the Watchmen for the next thirty years.
Does Alan Moore own his characters? Does he profit from any of this?
I think the both sides argument is awful in this situation. Moore took public domain characters and worked them into League. DC stole his characters by keeping them continually in print.
unpopularblargh
Member
Gary Frank and Geoff John's together have never let me down. I'll give this a shot.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Johns is gonna cripple Dr. Manhattan. It'll be vengeance for what Moore did to Barbara.
Imperfected
Member
"Oh god, not the DC Cinematic Universe!"
"No, Mr. Moore, we mean the comics."
"Oh... well, silver linings."
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
"Man, this Injustice 2 is an awesome game! I might go pro! Oh, the next DLC character will be revealed!"
*Next DLC character is Rorschach*
T___T
TheVampire
Banned
So is this like The Button Part 4 or something im always confused.
flaxknuckles
Member
Why should we expect DC or any other company to stop printing something that is selling good? It's Moore's fault for agreeing to the deal, DC didn't steal anything. Nobody with even a modicum of sense would agree to a contract that screws you if your work is popular or benefits you in no way if it's not.
I'm all for this.
I love Watchmen but I don't think those characters should be left to root because of a guy who worships a snake. If it sucks and then fuck it up, well, they fucked it up but that doesn't change how good Watchmen is. I mean, they released some prequel comics and I've heard some were good and some were bad but that didn't change how I saw Moore's comic.
I love Watchmen but I don't think those characters should be left to root because of a guy who worships a snake. If it sucks and then fuck it up, well, they fucked it up but that doesn't change how good Watchmen is. I mean, they released some prequel comics and I've heard some were good and some were bad but that didn't change how I saw Moore's comic.
Not everything he put into League or his other similar stories was public domain.
Tragicomedy
Member
Nice 2017 lenses. Whitewashing DC's guilt here is hilarious. The deal Moore signed was common at the time, and publishers wouldn't keep books in print longer than a year or so.
Your response leads me to believe you've not read up on this. Fuck those dopes Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, too, right? Next time lawyer up.
Henchmen21
Banned
What if they title is just a typo and the story is really about Dr. Manhattan's exhibitionism.
Valkerionseven
Member
Wondering how they will work out being in there... just cause the Watchmen were kinda like low rent Batmen at best aside from a few moments. How will they fit into the greater DC universe or pair up with the already established groups.
You know aside from ol Blue genitals himself.
You know aside from ol Blue genitals himself.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Called it. Next five events will be Watchmen-related, leading into a Watchmen event.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
24-page, full-color soap operas.
Cant wait to read all 500 chapters of One Piece.
disappeared
Banned
Alan Moore:
Galactic Specter
Member
The Button so far has been pretty good, I'm glad we don't have to wait too long for this storyline to be continued.
Cipher Peon
Banned
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
Can't wait :O
Can't wait :O
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So you've never read a manga before?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Very excited for this, The Button has been amazing.
And lol at some of the people in this thread. Who the fuck cares about the sanctity of Watchmen? Moore certainly doesn't and the book will always be there and stand on its own. DC is trying some weird shit right now and most of it has been pretty damn great.
And lol at some of the people in this thread. Who the fuck cares about the sanctity of Watchmen? Moore certainly doesn't and the book will always be there and stand on its own. DC is trying some weird shit right now and most of it has been pretty damn great.
clay_ghost
Member
Oh. Never knew that was true with Naruto too. Another reason not to read it then.
Edit
I did tried, many times. Just could not get into it. Sorry Naruto fans.
Discotheque
Banned
I don't like batman rebirth as much as I was hoping to. But dc rebirth as a whole has been dope, and the button story was pretty cool
This should be nice.
0n one hand it kinda sucks that they are messing with watchmen. Should be standalone tbh. But the idea of Manhattan fucking with the dc universe is novel imo.
This should be nice.
0n one hand it kinda sucks that they are messing with watchmen. Should be standalone tbh. But the idea of Manhattan fucking with the dc universe is novel imo.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
GrandHarrier
Member
So this seems to be the general opinion:
Read Rebirth: "I love Rebirth this is going to be awesome!"
Hasn't read Rebirth / DC in 10+ years / ever: "Comics gonna comics, leave watchmen alone, Zach Snyder ruined the DCCU."
I'm definitely in the first camp.
Read Rebirth: "I love Rebirth this is going to be awesome!"
Hasn't read Rebirth / DC in 10+ years / ever: "Comics gonna comics, leave watchmen alone, Zach Snyder ruined the DCCU."
I'm definitely in the first camp.
Rebirth and the Button have been amazing so far. So hopefully this even continues that trend.
Wait, your saying GAF just assumes things and just drive by shit posts?
... sounds about right.
Wait, your saying GAF just assumes things and just drive by shit posts?
... sounds about right.
Because we ran out of ideas 50 years ago
Geoff johns has to be one of the best writers I've encountered. Anything he touches he elevates like his green lantern run sheesh so damn good.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I've been a little up and down with the actual Rebirth titles themselves, but on the whole, Rebirth has been a pretty great initiative from DC. A great attitude from the storytellers, to editorial and above in trying to dial into what all fans want and giving it to them be it double shipping main books, launching imprints for niche characters to thrive in, and so on. I honestly don't really read comics for these big crossovers, nor do I care much about the watchmen either way, but they've definitely did this in a strong way, and it's hard not to be excited, even when it's interfering in your batman. If this is what excites the creators involved, then I'll read it.
Green Ninja
Banned
Alan Moores best work are his Green Lantern and Star Wars comics. Everything after that has been naval gazing bullshit. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was a really interesting premise and world but he somehow even managed to make that go downhill by the second story arc.
I'm so sick and tired of the Watchmen. It would have been somewhat different if it continued beyond its original run, but it didn't.
Tom Strong was not navel*-gazing.
Tom Strong was not navel*-gazing.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I've enjoyed what I've read of Rebirth so I'm looking forward to it.
Eh, he's not wrong. I'm more partial to one off's, as at least I can get a fun self-contained story, rather than slogging through a bloated event that has little meaning in the long run.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I'm taking bets that they retcon Rorschach into this.
”Look guys: Rorschach wasn't really killed by Dr Manhattan, he was actually transported to the future of the DCU!"
”Hang on, I don't think that's how time works in Watch—”
”It's Rorschach, guys!"
”What about all that blood?”
"You like Rorschach, right?"
"Doesn't that undermine th--"
”MOAR RORSCAHCAHACHAHH!"
Either that or Manhattan 'rebuilds' him or something.
Top Ten was not navel-gazing.
”Look guys: Rorschach wasn't really killed by Dr Manhattan, he was actually transported to the future of the DCU!"
”Hang on, I don't think that's how time works in Watch—”
”It's Rorschach, guys!"
”What about all that blood?”
"You like Rorschach, right?"
"Doesn't that undermine th--"
”MOAR RORSCAHCAHACHAHH!"
Either that or Manhattan 'rebuilds' him or something.
Top Ten was not navel-gazing.
This event will not involve Watchmen canon. Geoff made clear as did Gary Franks on his Twitter page.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
What does that mean exactly?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I don't really give a shit about events and continuity in general but there have been a lot of incredible self-contained stories since New 52. Omega Men alone is one of the best comics of the last decade imo. And you can follow most Rebirth books without having to pay attention to any of the Watchmen stuff. Just dismissing everything DC post New 52 as he or she did is just silly.
Well, if I'm not mistaken Dr. Manhattan left. And where he would have ended up was the multiverse. At the point he is
removed from the Watchmen cannon. As far as we know from this interview, Dr. Manhattan is the only Watchmen character involved in this story.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, gotcha.
I dunno, man. The odds have changed, but I'm still taking those bets
Yeah, if something is good, it's good. If Rebirth turns out well, great. It just seems to me that Watchmen has a history of people taking influence or appropriating elements of it that wildly miss the point.
For example, the actual story was never the important part of Watchmen. What makes it special is in how the story was told. I don't recall seeing any related media get that yet, and I doubt Rebirth will change that.
I appreciate I'm the worst kind of whinging fanboy about this. I'm not proud of it.
broncobuster
Banned
That's a little too accurate.
