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DC Comics announces "Doomsday Clock", starring Superman and some blue guy
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Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It's a nice theory, but didn't Dr Manhattan's character arc end with his
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at the
end
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renewed interest in life
I'm pretty sure that's why he returns to Earth, and subsequently buggers off to make some
nothing ever
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Green Ninja
Banned
I'll never forgive Geoff for ruining the Empire of Tears
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Is that from the 'five inversions' story? I don't even read GL and I love that.
A manga with a straight storyline and a never changing author for over 10 years?
Yes great counterexample to bring here
You know I'm also a comic nut but he is right.
This is what I meant, and I was into comics in the '90s.
US superhero comics span decades, changing writers' hands over and over, with the progression of time virtually at a standstill, constantly reworking how the characters fit into their publisher's greater overall universe and our contemporary world. Crossovers, constantly shifting canon, reboots, etc. It's a gigantic mess, and an endless hamster wheel of recycled storytelling.
It's nice to have a comic that starts with a clean slate, has a generally consistent vision and purpose (barring the meddling of editors,) doesn't have to worry about fitting into some greater universe, and eventually comes to a (hopefully) satisfying end.
Green Ninja
Banned
Yes. Johns brought it back and made it a major part of the GL mythos (specifically the Red Lanterns). The problem is he completely butchered it and changed it from a planet (or planets) of Lovecraftian mythos into a small terrorist group with there most important member being a guy named Attrocitius (get it because he commits atrocities?) with a really uninspired design compared to the rest of the Empire characters that Alan Moore actually created. Oh and he also killed off the Empire of tears within 3 issues and left Attrocitius as its only surviving member.
He also did a really lame recreation of the Blackest Night prophecy from the same story in Sinestro Corps but i'm not even going to get into that.
What makes me mad is he had good buildup to using those characters and then completely failed in the execution.
Just_myles
Member
Yeah, he did say that. But,, he mentioned something else that he would "possibly"(what DC is banking off of) do.
Yeah, of course all of these 500 chapters were in the mind of the One Piece dude when he started writing.A manga with a straight storyline and a never changing author for over 10 years?
Yes great counterexample to bring here
You know I'm also a comic nut but he is right.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That's a damn shame because the incidental/descriptive stuff in that original story really sparked the ol' imagination.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
That's why we have indy comics thankfully
Yup. It's a shame they don't get more exposure.
The thing that annoyed me was, that there is always that poster who comes into the Superhero Comic thread and says something along the lines of "and thats why superhero comics suck!". Followed by always the same argument and often with a praise of Mangas.
Cool for you. And cool that you like Mangas. But why do you bother posting? Its annoying because its always the same argument. From the distance that I have to Manga, these storys about endless running stories of Alien-Ape-Dudes with superpowers and Pirates who are getting superpowers through fruits sound super silly, too, but I would never ever dare to go into a Mangathread and press a shitpost out.
And no, I dont have anything against Manga, there are currently a couple of books in my interest, that I am very interested in - Ghost in the Shell, Uzumaki, Akira. Super interesting sounding books, I cant wait to get my hands on these and maybe later share my thoughts on this.
Cool for you. And cool that you like Mangas. But why do you bother posting? Its annoying because its always the same argument. From the distance that I have to Manga, these storys about endless running stories of Alien-Ape-Dudes with superpowers and Pirates who are getting superpowers through fruits sound super silly, too, but I would never ever dare to go into a Mangathread and press a shitpost out.
And no, I dont have anything against Manga, there are currently a couple of books in my interest, that I am very interested in - Ghost in the Shell, Uzumaki, Akira. Super interesting sounding books, I cant wait to get my hands on these and maybe later share my thoughts on this.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They get as much exposure as they need to get. It's not like Dark Horse, Image, or Oni are in financial troubles or anything. They do fine. If you want to see them doing better than Marvel and DC all you gotta do is look at the top selling trades on Amazon or any other place that keep track of that. Trades are where indies excel at. Single issues are Marvel and DC's bread and butter. They forever belong to comic shops and the collector's market.
Shogmaster
Member
Jeoff Johns is the fucking plague...
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Also this is all John's story. Tom King and Joshua Williamson are helping him out on their solo runs but they understand his vision which is why this event is working out really well compared to DC's past attempts. Not to mention adding in their own unique voice to the story. It's simple if you started Rebirth with the one-shot that helped setup the entire DC Rebirth line.
MisterHero
Super Member
As someone who followed both Post-Crisis Superman and New52 Superman...
Rebirth bummed me out
I was hoping P-C Supes would find his own dimension and finally find Lor-Zod. The he'd have 2 sons. And find his original Justice League, the friends he left behind. Because I've been following him since the 90s.
He didn't belong in the New 52 universe, I was hoping they'd actually resolve that. Nope
BobTheFork
Member
I don't think Superman is even close to strong enough for that to be an issue.
Supes is physically strong but the point of Manhatten is that he is quantum physics Superman; He can created life itself and reform the very nature of reality around him.
'Oh superman please tell him how you can possibly relate to humanity when you are strong enough to punch through a building.'
There would be heros with far more relatable disassociation with humanity. I knew classically, they funnel that stuff through Supes but it feels wrong in this case.
BKatastrophe
Member
I am fond of these theories.I'm pretty sure Oz is Ozymandis and New 52 Question is supposed to be Rorschach:
I mean, I thought Blackest Night was pretty awesome. Also, Milligan's Red Lanterns run goes back to the more Lovecraftian/black magic mythology for the Red Lanterns as far as the origin goes. It's not the same, but it's a cool take.
Reborn fuses Pre-Flashpoint Superman with New 52 Superman as a "two halves of the same whole" kind of deal. Confusing, but it works.
Father_Brain
Banned
Has anything been done with the three Jokers or with Wonder Woman's twin brother yet? I feel like those were also reveals done more to get attention for Rebirth and Justice League #50 than because there was an actual story idea behind them.
Father_Brain
Banned
The three-page epilogue of Flash #22 has been scanned and posted where you'd expect. I couldn't spoil it even if I wanted to, because there's no actual story there to spoil.
kylecoley182
Banned
needs more Hal Jordan
Schweinehund
Member
Innnnnnnnnnnn
hopefully this heralds the third wave and we can get Shazam & JSA ongoing :/.
hopefully this heralds the third wave and we can get Shazam & JSA ongoing :/.
Deadstarone
Member
Yeah, you might like Superman Reborn if you haven't been keeping up to date.
I am so ready for this. Watchmen is excellent but I'm not one to keep toys in their packages. Take them out and play with them. Rebirth, The Button, and DC in general has been putting out great stories, I can't wait to see where they take this.
BKatastrophe
Member
That ain't true. For anything.
Fistbump
We're getting JSA and Legion of Superheroes for sure. Tom King is on a new Mr. Miracle book.
Haven't read much of rebirth other than the first arc of Green Arrow, any recommendations for trades I should pick up? Seem like Superman and the Flash are the more popular ones, though my understanding is that they haven't touched on the Watchmen stuff much since the launch book.
BKatastrophe
Member
Not to derail too much, but I really enjoy all of the ones I'm pulling:
Detective Comics
Nightwing
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey
Superman
Green Arrow
Titans
Supergirl
Super Sons
Justice League of America
I read the first trade of Red Hood and the Outlaws and enjoyed that as well. I want to say I'm missing a book or two, but right now that's what I'm jamming on. Aside from a couple of crossovers (The Button), Titans is the only book that seems to touch directly on the core Rebirth storyline that I know of.
Yeah, that was a weird complaint. I know opinions are subjective and all, but what that guy said made as much sense as a lama wearing a tutu.
Don't want to derail, but your missing one amazing rebirth book. Deathstroke. Seriously, the book is solid as hell.
Detective Comics, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Super Sons have all been superb. I like Green Lantern Corps too but your mileage may vary.
BKatastrophe
Member
I plan to pick it up in trade. Seemed interesting, but I didn't want to pull it,
LordOfLore
Banned
Cover time:
Proudly presenting the covers to #DoomsdayClock #1 by @1moreGaryFrank & @bdanderson13. The story begins on November 22, 2017 from @DCComics.
LordOfLore
Banned
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
There is no timeline where they get this right.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Good.
manfestival
Member
I saw Geoff Johns. That is all I need. GIVE IT TO ME NOW
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Wow. I didn't realize it was going to be a 12 issue series. I thought 3-4 for some reason.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Prince of Space
Banned
Johns screwed up; should've made this the main story for the DCEU, tying Snyder's Watchmen and Man of Steel together.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Comic release months are never accurate to the issue, not sure why. Think it's to do with the shipping schedule?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
LiveFromKyoto
Member
GARY FRANK SUPERMAN YESSS
Post-event Justice League lineup:
Rorschach
Dream
Batman
Death
Dr. Manhattan
Lobo
Superman
Wonder Woman
Written and drawn by Ian Churchill.
HStallion said:
Post-event Justice League lineup:
Rorschach
Dream
Batman
Death
Dr. Manhattan
Lobo
Superman
Wonder Woman
Written and drawn by Ian Churchill.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Gary Frank still drawing his christopher reeve superman but in the rebirth costume looks weird.