Yeah, something Marvel has had a continual issue with... throwaway villains. Not like he was special to begin with. In the exact same movie, he's cheapening Thanos as well. When he's mocking Thanos and goading him into an attack, Thanos sits there like a punk. In one movie they managed to cut two villains at the knee.
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Yeah, something Marvel has had a continual issue with... throwaway villains. Not like he was special to begin with. In the exact same movie, he's cheapening Thanos as well. When he's mocking Thanos and goading him into an attack, Thanos sits there like a punk. In one movie they managed to cut two villains at the knee.
The plan of attack to hold hands and hope that Star Lord's genes (which they weren't aware of at the time) are enough to handle the power of an Infinity Stone?
johnnydrama
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Music is good, but I don't like Guardians of the Galaxy at all. It's not offensively bad, but it's just so goddamn dull.
SENPAIatLARGE
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I hope the Justice League beats Darkseids Anti Life Equation by dancing together to the sound of Staying Alive blasting from Cyborgs' body.
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SENPAIatLARGE
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The only way to dodge the omega beams is to have sick dance moves.
IMO that's what DC needs. Just a good focused movie. WW deserves that at least. I've said from the start the biggest mistake WB made was going all in too soon. They decided to have their big event movie with added weight of establishing their universe pretty much as their first movie.
In a perfect world after MoS. You'd cast Ben as Batman. Make a Batman solo that hopefully turned out good. You'd cast Gal as WW and hopefully that turned out good. You'd at least establish the Trinity and you could connect the worlds in the movies somehow.
Then you'd have BvS. It could be the same movie really. Just more contained and focused. Focus on Batman and Superman's motivations and Lex being the manipulator. Remove the Knightmare scene and put Bruce and Diana looking at the emails as a mid credits scene.
Then you'd have SS. Not really a movie that adds a whole lot to the universe but it does help expand and introduce characters most audiences don't know and introducing fan favorites to the big screen. Then you'd have JL1. Which introduces Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg. Then go from there.
WB just committed way too much too soon with no real plan or vision.
Just saw it.
I think it's very bad, unfortunately. Really wanted to like it.
For reference, I think BvS and MoS are decent, despite both having big glaring issues.
It started strong, but lost it's footing very quickly until it came down crashing.
The plot is just so bad. A lot of the jokes fall flat. The villain is atrocious.
Very disappointing.
I think it's very bad, unfortunately. Really wanted to like it.
For reference, I think BvS and MoS are decent, despite both having big glaring issues.
It started strong, but lost it's footing very quickly until it came down crashing.
The plot is just so bad. A lot of the jokes fall flat. The villain is atrocious.
Very disappointing.
Exactly 3 hours from now I will be heading out so maybe I'll get to read your impressions beforehand.
That's how I am. Seeing this at least twice. Today and tomorrow and if I do enjoy it I'll see it again on Saturday.
Sitting in the theater now. Lots of younger people here. Teens right now mostly and colleges aged people. Few parents here with kids
If you're having reservations about the movie that's likely the best way to go. It's cheaper so there's implied less risk
I'm watching BvS again (as I said before) and I'm at the "1%" conversation. Bruce says he's going to steal the kryptonite. Alfred says, "To keep it out of Luthor's hands. To destroy it."
"...No."
Beautiful delivery by Affleck. Almost like he was disgusted to admit what his actual intention was.
Edit: At the harbor scene. I just realized there's nobody in that car that Batman drags around.
"...No."
Beautiful delivery by Affleck. Almost like he was disgusted to admit what his actual intention was.
Edit: At the harbor scene. I just realized there's nobody in that car that Batman drags around.
Kenzodielocke
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Best scene is Bruce thanking Alfred.
KDash31987
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I went to go watch Suicide Squad at Disney Springs, but the theater was packed, so there was no place for my brothers, stepsister, and myself to sit...so we got refunds. The next showing was sold out, and the rest aren't for hours. Not sure when we'll watch it now. I was excited to go watch it. 
I just finally started to get better today after being sick the past few days, too, just in time for the movie, and now I can't watch it. Heh.
I just finally started to get better today after being sick the past few days, too, just in time for the movie, and now I can't watch it. Heh.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/8/4/12378024/suicide-squad-r-rating-ayers-warner-bros
So you're telling me there's a chance.
So you're telling me there's a chance.
The worse it does, the more pressure will be on WB... what a poorly thought out article. As if somehow tanking the bread and butter of a film's revenue to prop up blu ray sales is going to send that message lol...
Lol, is that what it says? How fuckin' ridiculous.
They needed to with how bad this film is being received. Otherwise they'd be screwed. Too soon?
I've actually seen a few reporters speculate that the JL set visit happened bc WB knew Skwad was going to be terrible received lol
bob_arctor
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There are some positive reactions from Gaffers that just saw it in the OT Review thread for those on the fence or just wanting a ray of light in all this darkness.
The general audience WILL eat this up. It checks all boxes of a crowd pleasing, mindless blockbuster. This will outgross BvS, or at least be dangerously closer than it should be haha.
So not as bad as Thor 2/ Iron Man 2?
More like the same.
If you like the characters you'll be fine with it, it's a Suicide Squad story that is not inherently flawed at all. It might be a bit simple but.. meh. Still fun. I understand Marvel fans now haha.
Would love a director's cut though, Joker was a bit too on the cute side, but still very enjoyable.
I don't know. I really liked it and enjoyed myself. Theater did as well. Movie definitely had us laughing. So i don't really understand reviews that say it's devoid of fun and humor honestly.
Plot was basic as all hell but imo I think the character interactions made up for it. They had a mission and that was it. And yea the villain was weak, but I don't know how you'd change that at least for this first outing imo.
I thought Will as Deadshot was great. Loved Margot as Harley. Was really surprised by El Diablo. Leto as Joker imo was one of the weaker performances. I didn't hate it it's just different. I'd still like to him in a solo Batman movie in a more serious role/tone.
But yea I liked it, and I'll definitely be seeing it again tomorrow.
My advice to someone who isn't sure. Go to a matinee. This is definitely not the worst movie in the world like some people or some reviews would have you think. There is some weird editing but nothing outrageous. It's not the best movie ever but it's not shit either.
IMO it's a solid action flick with some characters you may enjoy. I'd give it a 7/10
Plot was basic as all hell but imo I think the character interactions made up for it. They had a mission and that was it. And yea the villain was weak, but I don't know how you'd change that at least for this first outing imo.
I thought Will as Deadshot was great. Loved Margot as Harley. Was really surprised by El Diablo. Leto as Joker imo was one of the weaker performances. I didn't hate it it's just different. I'd still like to him in a solo Batman movie in a more serious role/tone.
But yea I liked it, and I'll definitely be seeing it again tomorrow.
My advice to someone who isn't sure. Go to a matinee. This is definitely not the worst movie in the world like some people or some reviews would have you think. There is some weird editing but nothing outrageous. It's not the best movie ever but it's not shit either.
IMO it's a solid action flick with some characters you may enjoy. I'd give it a 7/10
Make Deadshot the main character, have Harley and Joker be the main bad guys, give them a reason to go at each other.
There you go, can't be that hard.
evil solrac v3.0
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you saw it already? must have missed your thoughts...
Seriously hating on one of the best Comic Book movies ever made
but it's not a good movie. when a movie has to rely on countless gags to prop itself up because the characters aren't that interesting or the antagonist is non-existent then it ain't that good.
that's too similar to the Marvel formula.
question for those who saw it, does this movie connect to the wider DCEU or is it a stand-alone story?
Well yea that can be a potential future plotline. But we can sit here all day and day dream a better plot for this and any other movie really. Let's be real we knew Harley wasn't going to be any sort of main villain. Not for this first outing at least.
Smokey_Run
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Well that was a mixed bag.
It's quite a mess at the beginning, I think the bar scene is where the movie feels like it finally started to find it's stride. I liked most of the characters; Waller, Deadshot, Harley, Flagg,and Boomerang. Not a fan of coked out Joker, at all. Sadly, I don't think there is a way to change that. When Joker talked, I just wanted him to shut up. The best Joker moment was the golden AK shot shown in the trailers.
I'd probably go with 6/10 and that might be on the high side. I think there was definitely a better movie to be made with the property and people involved, but I don't think this was the one.
It's quite a mess at the beginning, I think the bar scene is where the movie feels like it finally started to find it's stride. I liked most of the characters; Waller, Deadshot, Harley, Flagg,and Boomerang. Not a fan of coked out Joker, at all. Sadly, I don't think there is a way to change that. When Joker talked, I just wanted him to shut up. The best Joker moment was the golden AK shot shown in the trailers.
I'd probably go with 6/10 and that might be on the high side. I think there was definitely a better movie to be made with the property and people involved, but I don't think this was the one.
The beginning was awful. AWFUL. It should have started with Amanda's monologue.
It's essentially it's own movie aside from a few scenes.
I don't think there was anything truly inherently flawed in the movie and some people just aren't going to dig it. I don't think we'll be talking about this movie in a month, but I don't think it was a bad movie. My theater dug the hell out of it. Some won't.
It's literally your typical summer blockbuster with characters from a comic book. I'll definitely watch it again tomorrow. I enjoyed my time with it.
Made no sense to start with belle reve, then Amanda at the restaurant, and then belle reve again. Start with Amanda to introduce the lineup, then get into the prison day-to-day.
That's WB's editors for you. Fucking fire them all.
DecoReturns
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Reading all these impressions tells me that DC now make diverse comic book movies.
Man of Steel was mixed
BvS was Mixed
SS is looking to being Mixed
I liked Man of Steel
Really disliked BvS
so I have no idea what to expect, should be a good time with my cousins then
Man of Steel was mixed
BvS was Mixed
SS is looking to being Mixed
I liked Man of Steel
Really disliked BvS
so I have no idea what to expect, should be a good time with my cousins then
Editing doesn't work like that. The editor alone doesn't do the whole move, well with all the drama on SS who knows, but typically it needs the directors and others approval/review
Beginning didn't bother me all too much. Only thing that overstayed it's welcome to me was the Harley intro.
Another thing to note imo. The movie didn't overstay its welcome. It really didn't feel like it dragged on. While I loved BvS. I think it really took too long to get into it. Especially with no action for like the 1st hour.
Smokey_Run
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Agreed. Made no sense. Should've been Waller, title card, Belle Reve.
I enjoyed it overall, but I felt that the movie could've benefited greatly by being on a much smaller scale. Make he villain not something that is world threatening, have Joker become involved heavily in the second half, and have something make the squad members turn on one another. Focus more on the team dynamics and less on set up and backstory.
My favorite parts were when they were just talking to one another and anything with Joker and Harley. I can't really come to much of a conclusion on Leto yet, but I most definitely want to see more of him.
If you are a DC fan, I think it's worth checking out for sure, at least a matinee showing.
My favorite parts were when they were just talking to one another and anything with Joker and Harley. I can't really come to much of a conclusion on Leto yet, but I most definitely want to see more of him.
If you are a DC fan, I think it's worth checking out for sure, at least a matinee showing.
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