Oscar worthy dialog right there!!
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Oscar worthy dialog right there!!
bishopcruz
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Saw the film last night. Really liked it. It got the feel of the Ostrander Suicide Squad down really well. Best live action Waller to date, Viola Davis killed it. All the characters felt like they were supposed to. Deadshot, was especially great.
Also, I don't understand how someone couldn't like the Joker, unless you were just waiting for a copy of Ledger. This was a pretty damned good interpretation of gangster Joker, similar to what we had in 1989 batman, but less cartoony. Honestly it reminded me a lot of Brian Azzarello's 'Joker' book, and some stuff like the Strip Club scene were ripped right from the pages of that book. Only thing I didn't like about him, is in what was cut. He needs those extra scenes of well, abuse against Harley to flesh out their relationship into the fucked up thing it is.
Also, I don't understand how someone couldn't like the Joker, unless you were just waiting for a copy of Ledger. This was a pretty damned good interpretation of gangster Joker, similar to what we had in 1989 batman, but less cartoony. Honestly it reminded me a lot of Brian Azzarello's 'Joker' book, and some stuff like the Strip Club scene were ripped right from the pages of that book. Only thing I didn't like about him, is in what was cut. He needs those extra scenes of well, abuse against Harley to flesh out their relationship into the fucked up thing it is.
So, like BvS I saw this at midnight on Thurs. Both crowds were charged up, but it wasnt even close, the BvS one seemed waaaay more into it. I think people were just confused at how dull SS ended up being. Really muted reaction by the end of it compared to BvS.
Skwad: Well damn, I had fun with this. I even liked it.
Weakest movie of the DCEU? Sure. It's a bigger mess in terms of narrative, structure and editing than BvS theatrical, but the fun of it all - eg the camaraderie between the Skwad, (Smith and Robbie especially are as expected fantastic) - it still makes this craziness work, and unlike BvS TC I can see audiences forgiving the messiness because of that fun factor. Now that 140m domestic OW figure makes a bit more sense and I don't think we'll get a big second week drop and I guess A- CinemaScore.
May repeat myself in these but anyway the good: Smith and Robbie, I actually liked the mob boss gangster approach to Joker here so props to Leto for making it work, Courtney was funny and Diablo was cool as well. Katana though, I wish we could see more especially back story instead of being a couple dialogue throwaways, same for Slipknot (for obvious reasons). The interactions, the chemistry, the humour, you spend a great time with them all that you forget/cab excuseas an audience member the bad stuff. Also MVP: Viola. Bloody. Davis. Female F.U. with badassery cranked up to 11, absolutely fantastic.
So the bad stuff: first act oh my dear god that was, while at first enjoyable, but I didn't really like the way it was put together. (I see you Trailer Park - that all is definitely from their cut). Thankfully it's all evened out once the mission begins, making the rest of the film like an extemded third act is certainly an interesting choice, although it did not make sense story and plot wise. It's during the rest of the film - where you get more of Price's great score and less of all the pop stuff (looking at you again Trailer Park) that we see what Ayer was originally trying to make. This messy conflict of visions is there when you look closely but again, thanks to the characters it just works.
Also - biggest wasted potential is Enchantress: not to mention Cara hamming it up, I think a very interesting Mr Robot/Fight Club-esque dynamic of Moone v Enchantress could've been explored (and I liked the pairing of her and Flagg on paper) but no she's Gozer 2.0 in this which is serviceable and alright given what we get in most other CBMs....
Lastly - all the complaints on how "problematic" it is - um they're bad guys? And Harley tried to pull a knife on Bats underwater so, there.
And also lastly but spoilers
So yeah, it's a hot mess but at least it's a good , even great B movie fun time. Can we get Ayer's cut pls
6.5/10
Weakest movie of the DCEU? Sure. It's a bigger mess in terms of narrative, structure and editing than BvS theatrical, but the fun of it all - eg the camaraderie between the Skwad, (Smith and Robbie especially are as expected fantastic) - it still makes this craziness work, and unlike BvS TC I can see audiences forgiving the messiness because of that fun factor. Now that 140m domestic OW figure makes a bit more sense and I don't think we'll get a big second week drop and I guess A- CinemaScore.
May repeat myself in these but anyway the good: Smith and Robbie, I actually liked the mob boss gangster approach to Joker here so props to Leto for making it work, Courtney was funny and Diablo was cool as well. Katana though, I wish we could see more especially back story instead of being a couple dialogue throwaways, same for Slipknot (for obvious reasons). The interactions, the chemistry, the humour, you spend a great time with them all that you forget/cab excuseas an audience member the bad stuff. Also MVP: Viola. Bloody. Davis. Female F.U. with badassery cranked up to 11, absolutely fantastic.
So the bad stuff: first act oh my dear god that was, while at first enjoyable, but I didn't really like the way it was put together. (I see you Trailer Park - that all is definitely from their cut). Thankfully it's all evened out once the mission begins, making the rest of the film like an extemded third act is certainly an interesting choice, although it did not make sense story and plot wise. It's during the rest of the film - where you get more of Price's great score and less of all the pop stuff (looking at you again Trailer Park) that we see what Ayer was originally trying to make. This messy conflict of visions is there when you look closely but again, thanks to the characters it just works.
Also - biggest wasted potential is Enchantress: not to mention Cara hamming it up, I think a very interesting Mr Robot/Fight Club-esque dynamic of Moone v Enchantress could've been explored (and I liked the pairing of her and Flagg on paper) but no she's Gozer 2.0 in this which is serviceable and alright given what we get in most other CBMs....
Lastly - all the complaints on how "problematic" it is - um they're bad guys? And Harley tried to pull a knife on Bats underwater so, there.
And also lastly but spoilers
one too much Batman, just one cameo in the film would've been enough, but Wayne at the end was AWESOMENESS
So yeah, it's a hot mess but at least it's a good , even great B movie fun time. Can we get Ayer's cut pls
6.5/10
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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I've been trying to find this image after the original link stopped working. Thanks to Plywood's post in that Jared Leto thread, here it is. I wonder what version this person originally watched, the Ayer's cut or the studio's cut, before he watched the mishmash version?
GringoSuave89
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Wasn't there a reddit post by someone who saw both cuts at test screenings that explained the differences?
Finally saw the movie. I enjoyed it a lot, but they really needed to flesh out some of the Squad. Not just bckstory, just more of who they are. Tone was just a tad bit too close to the Marvel spectrum for me, but it was a good time. If we could find a sweet spot, tone wise, between Bvs and SS, I'll be happy.
Finally saw the movie. I enjoyed it a lot, but they really needed to flesh out some of the Squad. Not just bckstory, just more of who they are. Tone was just a tad bit too close to the Marvel spectrum for me, but it was a good time. If we could find a sweet spot, tone wise, between Bvs and SS, I'll be happy.
Welcome back. Thought you were going to be gone a week?
Ah. Just popping in to see if we have imploded? Lol
I can deal with the weird stuff. I just don't feel anything either way about him right now at this point. And I'd rather see a Joker other than this mob boss, coked up version of him lol.
Smokey_Run
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I think that's the part that made me just not like him even in his limited time. Leto played him like a heroine addict who might have just shot up. A bunch of his limited time he was just spacey.
Yeah this while mob boss thing isn't doing it for me. I guess. I felt so weird during that entire club scene. I just don't think he's that memorable so far in this limited screen time. Hopefully that will change.
And that kinda makes sense since he only has one goal during the entire movie. Yea I just don't know if I like seeing joker like that.
Put him in a batman solo and a truly psychotic, genius clown. I think Leo can knock that out of the park
I agree that an Affleck directed Leto would kill it. The guy has talent, the movie just didn't make good use of it.
WHAAAAT? Where was it confirmed?
Discotheque
Banned
Kingdom of Heaven and Blade Runner final cut. The original cut of alien is perfectly fine enough as it is.
SJRB
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Just an assumption. I checked the credits and didn't see any Vicky Vale. But Lex clearly calls her Vicky, she's blonde.. I dunno, kinda makes sense?
Anyway, I fucking love the Ultimate Edition. They really, REALLY need to release an Ultimate Edition soundtrack, there's so much stuff missing on the original OST.
What did he mean by this?
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Fuck!!! Set your expectations to zero and you cant help but like some of it...but I LOVED it!
Really unconventional filmmaking that I believe will resonate with audiences. It really is sort of videogameish, but thats not a slight against it.
I came out loving every character and how daring it was to suddenly expand the entire DCEU in such a huge way with the ensemble of diverse characters. I feel like Ayer breathed more life into this DC Earth than Snyder did honestly in terms of world-building and tone-setting.
9/10
Really unconventional filmmaking that I believe will resonate with audiences. It really is sort of videogameish, but thats not a slight against it.
I came out loving every character and how daring it was to suddenly expand the entire DCEU in such a huge way with the ensemble of diverse characters. I feel like Ayer breathed more life into this DC Earth than Snyder did honestly in terms of world-building and tone-setting.
9/10
johnnydrama
Banned
I talked to 5-6 people from college. All of them really enjoyed it. What is happening with this film?
TropicalFish
Member
I really enjoyed it. I loved Enchantress (but only when she was in her creepy form, the other one sucked), Harley, Deadshot and Joker.
Captain Boomerang didn't wow me like I was expecting to, Katana and Croc were paid dust, and El Diablo was meh.
I would have changed some scenes around, and admittedly the action was kinda mediocre, but overall it was a pretty enjoyable film.
I probably would have liked it way more with most of the deleted stuff added back in though.
Captain Boomerang didn't wow me like I was expecting to, Katana and Croc were paid dust, and El Diablo was meh.
I would have changed some scenes around, and admittedly the action was kinda mediocre, but overall it was a pretty enjoyable film.
I probably would have liked it way more with most of the deleted stuff added back in though.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
This is super contradicting. Like this is more than BvS which had a 38% drop. Hope it is wrong.
All of my co-workers that went to see it together last night loved it. They're all in their 20s.
I almost convinced myself to wait for the blu-ray but my wife really wants to see it and they said they loved it, so we're just going to go tomorrow.
thehypocrite
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Why the fans? WB is the one that needs to deliver a quality movie, fans don't make films so I don't get your post.
You.. are right? omg how didn't I ever notice?
Voodoo. Only explanation.
She's treated a bit as a bimbo, but she's also the heart of the film. Margot is pitch perfect on the role though.
That's good to hear, because she's one of my favorite DC characters. Anticipation even higher now!
Because historically bad drops and underperforming movies is bad for us DC fans that just want the films to keep flowing.
At a point you just have to ignore all the petty nick-picks. If someone is determined to find a fault in something, they will find fault.
Liked it, didn't love. Much like BvS (yet to see UC).
Can definitely tell stuff was rearranged/cut. Certain interactions/arcs felt chopped up. The Joker was def shorted.
I dug this version of Joker he just...wasn't given enough.
Enchantress was kinda...actually really hot. Which was weird because I don't like her actress. Actually find her kind of off-putting.
All the pop songs got a little grating, they seemed to drop that in the last half/third.
Waller was fucking vicious. Did NOT expect that scene toward the halfway point. She never wore the navy blue business suit though!
Deadshot was great throughout the whole movie.
Diablo was cool.
Harley was great.
Boomerang was a little underused.
Katana and Croc got screwed over. Maybe saving them for later movies.
It also seemed to be setting up Justice League alot more than I was expecting.
Hope we get the rumored SS2 and Birds of Prey movie.
One thing I was surprised about was the lack of allusions to other villains in Belle Reeves/Arkham.
Hoping for Mr Freeze. and Livewire next time.
Can definitely tell stuff was rearranged/cut. Certain interactions/arcs felt chopped up. The Joker was def shorted.
The shithead captain of the guard storyline seemed like it was going somewhere.
I dug this version of Joker he just...wasn't given enough.
Enchantress was kinda...actually really hot. Which was weird because I don't like her actress. Actually find her kind of off-putting.
All the pop songs got a little grating, they seemed to drop that in the last half/third.
Waller was fucking vicious. Did NOT expect that scene toward the halfway point. She never wore the navy blue business suit though!
Deadshot was great throughout the whole movie.
Diablo was cool.
Harley was great.
Boomerang was a little underused.
Katana and Croc got screwed over. Maybe saving them for later movies.
It also seemed to be setting up Justice League alot more than I was expecting.
A pretty sizable chunk of the world's military capability was wiped out right? Bad timing with Supes gone Earth is looking primed to get the shit kicked out of it.
Hope we get the rumored SS2 and Birds of Prey movie.
One thing I was surprised about was the lack of allusions to other villains in Belle Reeves/Arkham.
Hoping for Mr Freeze. and Livewire next time.
CMojicaAce
Member
In the theater now. Hopefully I enjoy it.
I think he just amped himself up more. Made himself more sound more ocker.
Good. This should break enough to feel the DC brand has a power, but not enough for WB to take it was a good job.
But how many more failures to meet potential can Tsujihara helm before he's kicked off the boat entirely? MUTINY! MUTINY I SAY!
Smokey_Run
Member
Suicide Squad gonna fuck around and have worse legs than BvS with no competition in summer. Amazing in some ways if it happens.
If Harry Potter gets butchered too, he's out.
This is starting to feel like the way BioShock Infinite felt. Early in it's development we saw trailers and gameplay from a game that ultimately never made it into the public's hands. I'm sure someone is going through trailer footage and making something that showcases all the footage we saw leading up to the film that never actually made it into the final product.
I admire the director for standing up for his film, but I think he's just doing this out of solidarity or something noble or whatever. I feel like there's a whole different film that was made pre-Deadpool, post-Deadpool, and then post-BvS reaction.
I really, REALLY hope we get an ultimate cut somewhere down the line.
Again, I loved the movie, by the way, I'm just curious of how it was originally put together.
I admire the director for standing up for his film, but I think he's just doing this out of solidarity or something noble or whatever. I feel like there's a whole different film that was made pre-Deadpool, post-Deadpool, and then post-BvS reaction.
I really, REALLY hope we get an ultimate cut somewhere down the line.
Again, I loved the movie, by the way, I'm just curious of how it was originally put together.
To be fair this Summer has been brutal for movies.
I'll say it again. While this movie is fun it's forgettable. The characters make the movie but they don't have the same impact as seeing Batman, Superman and WW in the same film imo.
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