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List of scenes that were cut and comparisons with the novelization:

http://collider.com/suicide-squad-cut-scenes/

"In early cuts, the movie's opening detailed June Moon's posession by Enchantress in real tome. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot."

"Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter."

"El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers."

"El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground."

"Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang's racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behaviour, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to."

"Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham's crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as 'beautiful,' one of these were retained in the final cut."

"Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals."

"Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death."

"More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon's romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him."

"Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date."

"Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, "I can't wait to show you my toys," which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie."

"Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration."

"Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker's head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss."

"Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker."

"Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car."

"Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes."

"Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley's neck-bomb to be disabled."

"More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad."

"Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone's orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, "is a good idea." The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot's speech about them all almost pulling the mission off."

"Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive."

"Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her."

"Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape."
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SENPAIatLARGE

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This thread is on such a cycle it's not even funny.
-New DC film is announced and everyone gets hype
-Trailers show minor flaws but are ignored because of cool moments
-Rumors circulate about the movie being a mess
-Movie comes out, and is critically panned
-Thread members religiously defend the movie up until release date
-Half of thread loves it, half is disappointed
-Numerous complaints about OT being biased ensue
-We then tell ourselves that DC has an artistic vision, and that the movies are made with the fans in mind
-Salty about critical reception, Marvel bashing ensues
-The next trailer arrives, and the cycle begins anew
 
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Cheebo

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SENPAIatLARGE said:
This thread is on such a cycle it's not even funny.
-New DC film is announced and everyone gets hype
-Trailers show minor flaws but are ignored because of cool moments
-Rumors circulate about the movie being a mess
-Movie comes out, and is critically panned
-Thread members religiously defend the movie up until release date
-Half of thread loves it, half is disappointed
-Numerous complaints about OT being biased ensue
-We then tell ourselves that DC has an artistic vision, and that the movies are made with the fans in mind
-Salty about critical reception, Marvel bashing ensues
-The next trailer arrives, and the cycle begins anew
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If the exact cycle happens again with Wonder Woman and it is poorly received just like the last 3 movies I do wonder if that is the breaking point and fans just give up on the series.
 
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Ahasverus

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Kenzodielocke said:
I just want them to make technically good movies. That means I want good editing, good pacing, nice shots and so on. It doesn't have to be the most complcated shit with 100 subplots.

It's not that hard. Not with the talent WB is working with.
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100% agreed. Of course I'd like to have deep thought pieces, but you can't go there without mastering the basics.
 
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Boke1879

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Honestly IMO none of those scenes IMO really add anything. They could have left in the first half of the bar scene real talk though.

And personally I still think the movie shows the relationship of Harley and Joker as abusive. Clearly not to an extreme extent but it's there. I can only imagine the shit this movie would have gotten if they went all in with that.
 
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Penguin

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SENPAIatLARGE said:
This thread is on such a cycle it's not even funny.
-New DC film is announced and everyone gets hype
-Trailers show minor flaws but are ignored because of cool moments
-Rumors circulate about the movie being a mess
-Movie comes out, and is critically panned
-Thread members religiously defend the movie up until release date
-Half of thread loves it, half is disappointed
-Numerous complaints about OT being biased ensue
-We then tell ourselves that DC has an artistic vision, and that the movies are made with the fans in mind
-Salty about critical reception, Marvel bashing ensues
-The next trailer arrives, and the cycle begins anew
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Is it a cycle... if it's only really one movie?

I mean this thread didn't exist when BvS was announced
 
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Effect

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Count me in as another one that doesn't really think those scenes would have added much. Those look like cuts to save time and might even be redundant for some of the characters. As said before I understand why they toned down the abuse between Joker and Harley. They want her to be a more viable character going forward and that's even harder if you detail how much abuse is in that relationship. It also makes it harder for people to want to "cheer" on the Joker. Him being violent is one thing. As a result that lessen's Joker's scenes but he was always made to serve her backstory in the film and I think they did that well enough without breaking the flow of the movie.

Croc doesn't seem to do much in the film anyway, which is super frustrating when it comes to him and Katana, so his backstory doesn't need to be that detailed. It sounds like it would have easily crossed over to being just gross instead of dark or funny. I get why that was cut. Same with Boomerrang's racism, etc. That shit isn't going to fly unless he's going to die and you cheer that. So it has to be removed if you plan on using him later.

I can see some stuff like the bar scenes being added back into the film on the blu-ray. That's a cut that doesn't really make sense other then for time but even then it's only a few seconds long unless they didn't want to promote alcohol to much in a PG-13 film at the last minute.
 
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Penguin

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Cheebo said:
People had high hopes for BvS that quickly fell apart so it is similar in that way.
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But not necessarily a cycle.

Because then you could throw in nitpicks about casting or costumes

What I'm saying is it's silly to generalize a cycle after two movies
 
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IconGrist

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Effect said:
Count me in as another one that doesn't really think those scenes would have added much. Those look like cuts to save time and might even be redundant for some of the characters. As said before I understand why they toned down the abuse between Joker and Harley. They want her to be a more viable character going forward and that's even harder if you detail how much abuse is in that relationship. It also makes it harder for people to want to "cheer" on the Joker. Him being violent is one thing. As a result that lessen's Joker's scenes as a result but he was always made to serve her backstory and I think they did that well enough without breaking the flow of the movie.

I can see some stuff like the bar scenes being added back into the film on the blu-ray. That's a cut that doesn't really make sense other then for time but even then it's only a few seconds long unless they didn't want to promote alcohol to much in a PG-13 film at the last minute.
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My problem with downplaying Harley's history with Joker is you downplay her eventual departure from Joker. Imagine if Jessica Jones' history with the Purple Man was treated the same way. Why even bother using that character?
 
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Effect said:
Count me in as another one that doesn't really think those scenes would have added much. Those look like cuts to save time and might even be redundant for some of the characters. As said before I understand why they toned down the abuse between Joker and Harley. They want her to be a more viable character going forward and that's even harder if you detail how much abuse is in that relationship. It also makes it harder for people to want to "cheer" on the Joker. Him being violent is one thing. As a result that lessen's Joker's scenes as a result but he was always made to serve her backstory and I think they did that well enough without breaking the flow of the movie.

I can see some stuff like the bar scenes being added back into the film on the blu-ray. That's a cut that doesn't really make sense other then for time but even then it's only a few seconds long unless they didn't want to promote alcohol to much in a PG-13 film at the last minute.
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My main positive about SS is that it doesn't overstay it's welcome. I never felt the movie dragged on too long honestly. With BvS I got that feeling at times. I loved the movie when I saw it in theaters, but with the scenes being cut etc imo it took too long to get into the meat of everything.

I think you make another movie that has Joker and Harley featured prominently. Potentially Batman solo. A movie which imo should be dark, gritty etc. In that movie you really show the abuse and trouble of their relationship and how crazy both truly are. Show Joker literally taking it too far. Then if we hopefully get a Suicide Squad 2. You can play on that. Somehow Harley has to make a choice between Joker and her friends who actually care about her in their own twisted ways lol.
 
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No breaking point for me. I won't stop watching and getting hyped. I watched BvS UC again today, so fucking good.
 
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Boke1879

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I still have faith in WW. I think that movie will be pretty straightforward. Diana learns about the world of men. Fights and once she see's the horrors we're capable of. She vows to never return again. I think that's going to be the main plot of the movie.

Then we get a flash forward of her telling Bruce this story, and then we get a credit sequence teasing JL.
 
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Ahasverus

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Effect said:
Count me in as another one that doesn't really think those scenes would have added much. Those look like cuts to save time and might even be redundant for some of the characters. As said before I understand why they toned down the abuse between Joker and Harley. They want her to be a more viable character going forward and that's even harder if you detail how much abuse is in that relationship. It also makes it harder for people to want to "cheer" on the Joker. Him being violent is one thing. As a result that lessen's Joker's scenes but he was always made to serve her backstory in the film and I think they did that well enough without breaking the flow of the movie.

Croc doesn't seem to do much in the film anyway, which is super frustrating when it comes to him and Katana, so his backstory doesn't need to be that detailed. It sounds like it would have easily crossed over to being just gross instead of dark or funny. I get why that was cut. Same with Boomerrang's racism, etc. That shit isn't going to fly unless he's going to die and you cheer that. So it has to be removed if you plan on using him later.

I can see some stuff like the bar scenes being added back into the film on the blu-ray. That's a cut that doesn't really make sense other then for time but even then it's only a few seconds long unless they didn't want to promote alcohol to much in a PG-13 film at the last minute.
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I dont know it changes the entire dynamic between Harley and Joker.
 
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Error said:
I dont know it changes the entire dynamic between Harley and Joker.
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Which is still nothing but a minor part of the film. For the actual core narrative in Suicide Squad to work, June Moon and Rick Flagg have to be actual characters rather than disconnected plot points, and their relationship has to have some meaning. Otherwise the entire structure of the movie has no purpose.
 
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Error said:
I dont know it changes the entire dynamic between Harley and Joker.
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IMO it's just more extreme and then you're truly teetering a line on the tone of the movie. I still think the movie shows abuse and people I've talked to notice it as well. Clearly it's not as extreme or overt but it's there.

That still most of those scenes imo don't add anything to me. I see some people on twitter were upset that some of Leto's scenes were cut. But those people just wanted him more in the movie regardless of if it fit or not.

Again I think he was in the movie just enough. It's called Suicide Squad. Not Suicide Squad featuring Joker. He served his purpose. Now you retain Leto and get him in a movie where he can really shine.
 
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Cheebo

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Penguin said:
But not necessarily a cycle.

Because then you could throw in nitpicks about casting or costumes

What I'm saying is it's silly to generalize a cycle after two movies
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Well isnt' it 3 movies now? At the very least we had the cycle of

-High fan expectations
-Excitement over really well received trailers
-Panic over bad reviews
-Mixed at best fan reactions once the film comes

for Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad.
 
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Boke1879

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My guess is so no doubt it's going to be after The Flash and Aquaman. It's probably one of the movies that was teased but didn't have a name.
 
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Boke1879

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WhiteWolf said:
Whoa, Johns making shit happen.
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Lol I remember people in here didn't even think he would get another movie. I always figured something like this would happen after JL and the other solo movies. Makes too much sense. He obviously comes back in JL and his solo movie could help tease JL 2.
 
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well not really...yet
so uhhh

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-puts-man-of-steel-sequel-into-active-development-exclusive/

Warner Bros. Puts ‘Man of Steel’ Sequel Into Active Development

Henry Cavill‘s Superman will fly solo again in a sequel to “Man of Steel” going into active development at Warner Bros., a person familiar with the project told TheWrap.

Released in 2013, produced by Christopher Nolan and directed by Zack Snyder, “Man Of Steel” earned $668 million at the global box office and launched the ambitious DC Cinematic Universe. This summer’s “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” which picked up where that film left off, has pulled in $872 million.

Despite Superman’s battle with Batman, DC has been silent on a sequel to “Man of Steel” featuring Superman solo, leading many frustrated fanboys to believe that another film wasn’t going to happen. But a person close to the project told TheWrap that Superman is a top priority for the studio and getting the character right for audiences is of tantamount importance.
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Boke1879 said:
Lol I remember people in here didn't even think he would get another movie. I always figured something like this would happen after JL and the other solo movies. Makes too much sense. He obviously comes back in JL and his solo movie could help tease JL 2.
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Yeah, it could really flesh out his return before he has to face Darkseid. Imagine 2019, the year we get solo Batman and Superman films.
 
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Boke1879

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WhiteWolf said:
Yeah, it could really flesh out his return before he has to face Darkseid. Imagine 2019, the year we get solo Batman and Superman films.
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Yup and I feel this Superman will be portrayed how audiences view him and not someone who is struggling with themselves.

It just makes sense. MoS and BvS dealt with a man who was just becoming Superman and dealing with a world that didn't appreciate him. I think with his return and JL he'll be the hopeful Superman everyone loves, and that concept will be taken even further in his sequel movie.

More hyped for this universe. It's going to be so interesting to see where this universe stands in terms of story and threats after the Aquaman movie. Like for a MoS2 you have many potential villains. I say you try Brianiac.
 
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Please let it be Snyder.

Just for the salt. And I love the guy.
 
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Boke1879

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I doubt Snyder will direct this one. Honestly I think after JL he's done with this for a while. He'll probably take a break or work on some of his own projects.
 
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a916

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Boke1879 said:
Hmmm According to TheWrap Superman is getting another solo movie and apparently it's top priority for WB.
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That last part makes me convinced it's Johns pushing for it. You need that anchor for the JL and the trinity to work. Thank GOD.
 
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Okay, so wtf... Suicide Squad was dope. Unlike the broken theatrical cut of BvS that was jumpy and disjointed, I saw no reason to shit on this movie from a technical standpoint. Solid and coherent all the way through, easy to follow, hit its beats, and was fairly well paced.

Ayer made a straight Suicide Squad film that fans should appreciate. Each character hit their mark, faithful to the source material. Boomerang being the only departure since he's way more scumbaggy in the comics.

Will Smith fucking brought it in this movie, easily my favorite role of his. The background stories for both Deadshot and Diablo hit hard.
 
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ryan299

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They need to start dating these films. Flash doesn't have a date anymore and it's starting production in a few months. Surprised they haven't put a firm date down on Batman either.

Also wouldn't be surprised if Shazam is pushed and they have Black Adam be the villain in MoS2
 
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