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DC TV Community Thread [Summer of Superfriends]

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ZeroX03

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PhoncipleBone said:
Of course he is playing Barry Allen. With Geoff Johns still in charge of stuff we can't have another Flash headlining anything.
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I feel bad taking potshots at Johns for his Silver Age love when the guy really did write one of Wally's strongest runs.

The problem is that the first modern comic Johns seriously started reading with Crisis on Infinite Earths which led to Barry's death and it clearly stuck with him for a long time and he can't move past it. Of course in 10-20 years time we'll have a Wally fanboy who grew up on Waid and Johns' work in charge and Barry will get the shaft.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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ZeroX03 said:
I feel bad taking potshots at Johns for his Silver Age love when the guy really did write one of Wally's strongest runs.

The problem is that the first modern comic Johns seriously started reading with Crisis on Infinite Earths which led to Barry's death and it clearly stuck with him for a long time and he can't move past it. Of course in 10-20 years time we'll have a Wally fanboy who grew up on Waid and Johns' work in charge and Barry will get the shaft.
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True.

But no matter how awesome Johns' run on Green Lantern and Flash were, I got really tired of his fan wankery for Hal Jordan and Barry Allen. It was especially bad for Hal during the lead up and finale of Blackest Night.

Yes, Geoff. We get it. Hal is the most special and most interesting Lantern ever. Yes, we know you needed to prove that by breaking Kyle Rayner down in only a couple of pages and eventually having Hal wield nearly every ring color.
 
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Wiktor

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ZeroX03 said:
Ironside always getting that work. I'm sure he'll do a stellar job. They're continuing with the Rogue puns too.

If there's a time and place to bring in Constantine it's now, I'm holding out hope. Would be very weird to crossover a character from a cancelled show but if he became recurring that'd be cool. Adrian plz respond
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I'm game for that. I liked the show and loved Ryan's take on Constanine. Plus the vastly superior magical/mistic side is the main reason why I prefer DC over Marvel. I really need a magical Arrowverse show on CW.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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PhoncipleBone said:
True.

But no matter how awesome Johns' run on Green Lantern and Flash were, I got really tired of his fan wankery for Hal Jordan and Barry Allen. It was especially bad for Hal during the lead up and finale of Blackest Night.

Yes, Geoff. We get it. Hal is the most special and most interesting Lantern ever. Yes, we know you needed to prove that by breaking Kyle Rayner down in only a couple of pages and eventually having Hal wield nearly every ring color.
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I was happy Johns brought Hal back, but two things I really disliked:

1) Playing up the military/jock/manly-man angle. In the actual Silver Age, Hal was really introspective and thoughtful.

2) Continuing the "greatest GL evar" nonsense. Again in the actual Silver Age, they resisted making Hal that far out of the ordinary for the longest time. He was only occasionally made out to be special snowflake status, whereas most of the time the impression was that he was just another Corpsman. His "specialness" only rally came from him being a bit of a problem child.

I realize #1 is more popular, and that the reserved personality of a silver-age character can be considered boring to some-- but Johns actually *made* him boring.

#2 is pretty hard for writers to resist, but Johns just gave in to it completely. To be fair, this was done constantly with Kyle to try to legitimize him to some fans, and it's kinda what GL books have become.
 
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Sou Da

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I was happy Johns brought Hal back, but two things I really disliked:

1) Playing up the military/jock/manly-man angle. In the actual Silver Age, Hal was really introspective and thoughtful.
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Eh I liked it. It makes interactions with Guy the most over the top homoerotic Top-Gun esque shit ever, it's entertaining.

Also establishing parallel universes in The Flash tv show should make Ezra playing Barry incredibly easy to swallow for casual audiences. This would make him the 3rd Flash from another universe.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Sou Da said:
Eh I liked it. It makes interactions with Guy the most over the top homoerotic Top-Gun esque shit ever, it's entertaining.

Also establishing parallel universes in The Flash tv show should make Ezra playing Barry incredibly easy to swallow for casual audiences. This would make him the 3rd Flash from another universe.
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Hal was my favorite character growing up. Gerard Jones altered him somewhat, JOhns went full-on with that.

Guy's jock-ness was always in contrast with Hal, not in competition with him.

Darwyn Cooke got him exactly right in New Frontier.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I was happy Johns brought Hal back, but two things I really disliked:

1) Playing up the military/jock/manly-man angle. In the actual Silver Age, Hal was really introspective and thoughtful.

2) Continuing the "greatest GL evar" nonsense. Again in the actual Silver Age, they resisted making Hal that far out of the ordinary for the longest time. He was only occasionally made out to be special snowflake status, whereas most of the time the impression was that he was just another Corpsman. His "specialness" only rally came from him being a bit of a problem child.

I realize #1 is more popular, and that the reserved personality of a silver-age character can be considered boring to some-- but Johns actually *made* him boring.

#2 is pretty hard for writers to resist, but Johns just gave in to it completely. To be fair, this was done constantly with Kyle to try to legitimize him to some fans, and it's kinda what GL books have become.
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I did appreciate Johns bringing Hal back. And I did like the retcon he did of Parallax and Hal being possessed by it. It was just over the years where it started to grow thin with the Hal worship. At least we had the GL Corps monthly for a fix of other Lanterns.
 
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Penguin

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Looks like we're getting Atom Smasher and he is being played by Edge from WWE

https://twitter.com/ComicBookdotcom/status/621744597581082625

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ZeroX03

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Al Rothstein was one of the names Wells mentioned having died in the particle accelerator accident.

This incarnation appears to be a villain too.
 
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BKatastrophe

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ZeroX03 said:
Terrific. Even though I've grown fond of The Atom, I still wish it was him in the first place. Always preferred JSA to JLI, sorry Ted Kord but it's the (sexy young CW) old timers time to shine!
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It always felt like Palmer's role was written either for Ted or Terrific, which is what bugs me so much about that character in the show.
 
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Schweinehund

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Did you all see these two audition tapes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drrao4qcpmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DYvMszNZO4

Seems like it could match up with Atom Smasher.

Do all CW auditions start with the actor's shirt off :|.

One is suppose to be with Barry and the other Caitlyn.

Basically looks like he can't control his powers, and he doesn't like having them. Doesn't explain the mask though. The age difference seems to make sense with him calling Barry a kid. Also already hitting on Caitlyn.
 
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TraBuch

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I've watched seven episodes of The Flash and his power is starting to bug me. Some things just feel so inconsistent. There was a scene in the first episode or two where he confessed to Iris while speeding around and she was completely frozen the entire time. Every other time he speeds around, people are still moving slowly. Then you've got fights where he gets beaten up. How does he ever possibly get hit? Especially against that iron dude. He was just a normal guy minus the metal aspect, how could Barry ever possibly get his ass kicked so badly? It's like he's consciously deciding not to use his speed at times.

I'll get over it but ugh, it's annoying me right now.

Also, Iris is basically a combination of Smallville Lois Lane and Chloe Sullivan, right? Please tell me it won't take four years for her to figure out who The Flash is like it took them.
 
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Jorok Goldblade

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Schweinehund said:
Did you all see these two audition tapes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drrao4qcpmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DYvMszNZO4

Seems like it could match up with Atom Smasher.

Do all CW auditions start with the actor's shirt off :|.

One is suppose to be with Barry and the other Caitlyn.

Basically looks like he can't control his powers, and he doesn't like having them. Doesn't explain the mask though. The age difference seems to make sense with him calling Barry a kid. Also already hitting on Caitlyn.
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There's also speculation he could be Hawkman, which would be a neat callback, since Carter Hall and Jay Garrick shared a book back in the Golden Age.
 
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ZeroX03

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Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly more obvious that they're getting around the whole "can't use the Justice League because movies" thing by giving us the JSA instead? And I'm totally cool with that.

Ted Grant, Hawkman, Mr Terrific, Hawkgirl, Jay Garrick, Atom Smasher and all the talk of Earth 2.
 
Wiktor

Wiktor

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ZeroX03 said:
Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly more obvious that they're getting around the whole "can't use the Justice League because movies" thing by giving us the JSA instead? And I'm totally cool with that.

Ted Grant, Hawkman, Mr Terrific, Hawkgirl, Jay Garrick, Atom Smasher and all the talk of Earth 2.
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If there's similiar "can't use the Justice League Dark" ban then I hope they will go for Trenchcoat Brigade. :)
 
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MHWilliams

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ZeroX03 said:
Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly more obvious that they're getting around the whole "can't use the Justice League because movies" thing by giving us the JSA instead? And I'm totally cool with that.

Ted Grant, Hawkman, Mr Terrific, Hawkgirl, Jay Garrick, Atom Smasher and all the talk of Earth 2.
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Think deeper.

First major book Johns wrote at DC?

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That's actually the Vol. 3 cover, when Johns' first real issue was on Vol. 2, #5, but you get the idea.
 
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ZeroX03

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MHWilliams said:
Think deeper.

First major book Johns wrote at DC?

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That's actually the Vol. 3 cover, when Johns' first real issue was on Vol. 2, #5, but you get the idea.
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I was going to mention how surprised I am we haven't seen Stargirl yet. I guess she doesn't quite fit either show, but she's Johns' baby.
 
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BKatastrophe

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TraBuch said:
I've watched seven episodes of The Flash and his power is starting to bug me. Some things just feel so inconsistent. There was a scene in the first episode or two where he confessed to Iris while speeding around and she was completely frozen the entire time. Every other time he speeds around, people are still moving slowly. Then you've got fights where he gets beaten up. How does he ever possibly get hit? Especially against that iron dude. He was just a normal guy minus the metal aspect, how could Barry ever possibly get his ass kicked so badly? It's like he's consciously deciding not to use his speed at times.

I'll get over it but ugh, it's annoying me right now.

Also, Iris is basically a combination of Smallville Lois Lane and Chloe Sullivan, right? Please tell me it won't take four years for her to figure out who The Flash is like it took them.
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Iris is useless within the show until about the last 5 episodes.

And if the speed pisses you off now, oh lawd wait for an episode near the end. It'll bee beautiful.
ZeroX03 said:
Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly more obvious that they're getting around the whole "can't use the Justice League because movies" thing by giving us the JSA instead? And I'm totally cool with that.

Ted Grant, Hawkman, Mr Terrific, Hawkgirl, Jay Garrick, Atom Smasher and all the talk of Earth 2.
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Liberty Belle, Jay, and Barry team up to beat Zoom...
 
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Schweinehund

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Jorok Goldblade said:
There's also speculation he could be Hawkman, which would be a neat callback, since Carter Hall and Jay Garrick shared a book back in the Golden Age.
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Certainly fits in with the "kid" remarks.

ZeroX03 said:
Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly more obvious that they're getting around the whole "can't use the Justice League because movies" thing by giving us the JSA instead? And I'm totally cool with that.

Ted Grant, Hawkman, Mr Terrific, Hawkgirl, Jay Garrick, Atom Smasher and all the talk of Earth 2.
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I think that's what's happening, especially if Johns has any sort of direction. I want to see Stargirl and Alan Scott the most. Curious if they'll hand down the wildcat mantle as well, or if the wildcat in Arrow had an older mentor that was a champ.
 
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tim1138

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Hopefully when Stargirl shows up, she looks a bit better then she did on Smallville.
I'd ditch the crop top and bike shorts look for the full body suit she has in the Justice League United comic
 
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Jorok Goldblade

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PHOENIXZERO

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Jorok Goldblade said:
Saw a connection onf FlashTVNews that I didn't realize before.

Ironside played General Lane on Smallville.

Peyton List played Lucy Lane on Smallville. She p;ays Lisa Snart on Flash.

Michael Ironside can't stop playing Peyton List's comic book dad.




In other news, the Flash VFX team is nominated for an Emmy for "Grodd Lives"

http://flashtvnews.com/the-flash-gets-an-emmy-nomination/20926
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Haven't been keeping up with the topic? ;) I mentioned the Ironside thing a few days ago.
 
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