BewareTheBatsie
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Don't remind me. The whole 'experience beats superpowers' thing they have to justify why Oliver could fight Barry evenly is so stupid.
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DC TV Off-Season - Crisis on Infinite Reruns
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That's the justification for Batman beating people who should be able to take him out in a split second. That's how comic books work. Especially when Barry is established as being legendarily dumb, it shouldn't be surprising if experienced people like Ollie or Snart take him out.
Ollie beating RF was just him going full Batman.
That's comic - continuous arcs with no true end in sight - storytelling for you. Evan Batman has to job to a newcomer to show they're a threat.
BewareTheBatsie
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At least Batman has some convenient gadget or serum that tends to weaken his opponent. Snart has the ice gun to slow Barry down as well as leverage of his identity. Oliver against Barry had nothing special asides from his usual arrows yet managed to stay on even ground. The RF fight is annoying but at least had some anti-speed thing Ray whipped up to make it even for a couple of seconds.
Barry was heavily compromised, a few weeks into his super hero career and Ollie had prep time.
He wrote like 2-3 episodes for the second season, including The Flash set-up episodes. Season 2 just had the advantage of having a really charismatic villain who also could fight. Manu makes everything better by just being there.
kylecoley182
Banned
So is Cat Grant coming back or not?
BlackGhost
Banned
What's happening?ugh, some people.
Maybe because he defended Ezra Miller?
Nabs
Member
I think he replied to one of those idiot fanboy/fangirls on twitter who was calling him racist or something. He made the mistake of reading and replying to any of that.
People are pissed about Ezra Miller and taking it out on him
People are pissed because he isn't going into Candice's mentions to defend her from racism
People are pissed because he's blocking them for harassing him over stupid shit
Just another day on celebrity Twitter. He deleted most of it now.
People are pissed because he isn't going into Candice's mentions to defend her from racism
People are pissed because he's blocking them for harassing him over stupid shit
Just another day on celebrity Twitter. He deleted most of it now.
This happened? After that whole Leslie Jones debacle you'd think Twitter would take a breather for a bit.
PHOENIXZERO
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It's Twitter, creating drama is like mana to a lot of them.
DC TV has taught me that I HATE season-long villains. With Legends of Tomorrow's Vandal Savage, Arrow's Damian Darhk, and Flash's Zoom, you can't keep that tension and thrill going for that long. Eventually you just get tired of the same thing, and in a lot of cases - particularly Savage and Darhk - it starts revealing tons of plot holes.
Now, I don't really like a bunch of "one-shot" episodes, either. I think taking the comic approach and have 2-5 episode long arcs and villains would be the best.
Yeah it was bad. Excited for Flash S3, though. Legends of Tomorrow looked pretty good, but the trailer for the first season got me hyped and I ended up being INCREDIBLY disappointed in it, so I'm not letting it get my hopes up.
Now, I don't really like a bunch of "one-shot" episodes, either. I think taking the comic approach and have 2-5 episode long arcs and villains would be the best.
Yeah it was bad. Excited for Flash S3, though. Legends of Tomorrow looked pretty good, but the trailer for the first season got me hyped and I ended up being INCREDIBLY disappointed in it, so I'm not letting it get my hopes up.
"Season long" isn't bad, it's just introducing them from episode one. Merlyn, Slade & RF don't really get started until episode 9. Darhk was there from episode 1, Savage was there since before Legends even started, Zoom was episode 6 but a presence from the start and had a bunch of other problems.
They don't need every character to be a mystery either, a surprise is fine. If Tom Felton turns out to be Doctor Alchemy, I'll be like "okay third time you've played that card".
They don't need every character to be a mystery either, a surprise is fine. If Tom Felton turns out to be Doctor Alchemy, I'll be like "okay third time you've played that card".
You make a good point. Having an overarching "villain" for the season isn't inherently bad. It's about not making that the primary focus of the season. It's about drip-feeding their presence only when it's necessary, wherein it's revealed the villain's hand in events, and building to a climax.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The correct term is husbando.
Nabs
Member
Flash Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkM4O2XjZ0
Arrow Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GSCMzAY9w
Supergirl Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue8aTXOdGwE
Arrow Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GSCMzAY9w
Supergirl Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue8aTXOdGwE
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Watching all these panels like the nerd I am. I'm actually excited about Season 2 of Supergirl.
Ha, he straight out called it Berlanti Universe!
We're still not going to stop calling it the Arrowverse.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It's still the Arrowverse to me, dammit!
Hey I ain't forcing anyone to call it anything else, I'm just pointing that out. You can call it whatever you want.
ugh, some people.
Gustin should listen to Amell. Just ditch Twitter.
The out of touch old guy used the wrong term. He also calls if Magnegro, while it is clearly BLACKNETO.
Marc said the crossover (Episode 8, 100th episode) was Part 2 of 3 of the crossovers. I guess that means no Supergirl.
In the Supergirl panel it was confirmed they are part of the "Flarrowverse", as it was called, so somewhere plans changed about Supergirl's involvement in the crossover.
In the Supergirl panel it was confirmed they are part of the "Flarrowverse", as it was called, so somewhere plans changed about Supergirl's involvement in the crossover.
I've always just called it the berlantiverse. I feel like that's always the appropriate way to name these things. I believe some called all the animated DC shows from BTAS to JL:U the Timmverse because Bruce Timm was behind all of it.
Except saying Berlantiverse would imply Riverdale and Blindspot are a part of it, which they're not*. Same reason DC TV isn't a great term: Gotham, Powerless and Lucifier aren't part of this universe. Every show in this universe has direct ties to Arrow, even Vixen and Constantine. Two of them are direct spin offs. The only show that doesn't connect is Supergirl, yet. That's coming.
*unless
Sabrina the Teenage Witch
While true I just can't go with arrowverse. I know all the shows spawned from arrow but it needs a name that's more inclusive so I just stick with berlantiverse even though he has shows that aren't within the same universe. You can't even go with something stupid like DCW because iZombie is also a DC show on CW that isn't part of the universe.
The problem is that there are Arrowverse shows that aren't made by Berlanti.
PHOENIXZERO
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iZombie should be a part of it regardless of it not being a Berlanti production, then at least one show in the Arrowverse would have consistently good writing.
Gina Rodriguez is down for a Jane the Virgin crossover. There's no need to keep this universe tied down to just DC and comic books.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
How would you feel if Rachel Bloom was the Music Meister?
If that's the case, Sam and Dean might as well just come along for the ride too.
Nabs
Member
Legends of Tomorrow Panel Highlights (pt1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w23tRxT2TFw
Never say Flarrowverse, please.
Never say Flarrowverse, please.
kylecoley182
Banned
could this be arrows final season?
It could also be the last season of The Flash.
Yeah. Im thinking it might.
They gotta pull some magical shit to pull that show together again.
Also Stephen said that the flashbacks would be done by the next season which means an entire season with flashbacks again.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It could but probably not. CW almost always gives their long running shows the "one last season" run. Even shows like Hart of Dixie and Beauty & the Beast got renewed but with the stipulation that it would be the final season. They're actually doing the same thing with The Vampire Diaries right now. With the network playing up The Best Place for Superheroes in their marketing, I can't see them pulling the plug on Arrow this year.
Guys, Arrow is the second best performing show on the network. They're just as likely to cancel The Flash.
As for it being a natural 'end', I'd refer you to Supernatural season 5 which was the terrific conclusion of a five year long arc that upped the stakes astronomically. They're airing season 12 with a chance for 13, 14, 15.
ANd of course, everyone is contracted for six years.
As for it being a natural 'end', I'd refer you to Supernatural season 5 which was the terrific conclusion of a five year long arc that upped the stakes astronomically. They're airing season 12 with a chance for 13, 14, 15.
ANd of course, everyone is contracted for six years.
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