DC Universe to get fresh start (Superman & Batman Reboot)

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Whoa, they both look great, cept for the out of place symbol on Batman's chest, it looks odd.

Definitely, gonna keep a watch on this.

Also Alfred's a badass now.
 
Plywood said:
Whoa, they both look great, cept for the out of place symbol on Batman's chest, it looks odd.

Definitely, gonna keep a watch on this.

Also Alfred's a badass now.
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Tobor said:
This trend of bi-yearly graphic novels instead of monthly issues, is that new? It makes a lot of sense to me.
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I think its a fantastic idea, as its more cost effective for consumers and it doesn't pressure the creators to reach deadlines quite as often. Hopefully its a trend that gets popular soon in American comics.
 
bengraven said:
Do the Japanese not? I seem to remember quite a few reboots...

Or are we talking about the countries with decent comics?
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Actually most Japanese series end at some point.

And what reboots do they have?

Our comics are a never ending reboot after reboot.. and they try to mash 80 years of reboots into a timeline that makes sense.. :lol
 
I'm not a "regular" comic reader and only buy ~1 trade a year if that (Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, Walking Dead, etc) and I frequently mock comics for their silly reboots.

They reboot, then reboot said reboot sometimes like 1 year later. It's ridiculous.

I was PREPARED to enter this topic and do a little "lol comic reboot" trolling.

BUT... this actually sounds very nice. I'm LOVING that they're going to be in trade-only format, with a regular publishing schedule. I might just be on board for the Batman book. I love Batman as much as the next Casual (really digging the Arkham Asylum game atm), but Comics just carry with them too much baggage for me to ever really dive in. This seems like a nice solution.
 
Blackace said:
Actually most Japanese series end at some point.

And what reboots do they have?

Our comics are a never ending reboot after reboot.. and they try to mash 80 years of reboots into a timeline that makes sense.. :lol
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But series are written all through their run by one person.
 
My only hope is that these are at least 100 page OGNs

Its nice that they are going for the european style of releasing direct to GN, but I hope they dont mimic the page count (50-70) as Euro comics usually have much larger page layouts with more panels and more text, than american comics. 50 pages of a euro comic are definitely not equal to 50 pages of a US one.
 
I like the idea a lot but...

1-- ditch the name. Too much confusion with the old Earth One.
2-- JMS is really lame when it comes to superhero books. Not loving that.
3-- Please don't fall into the trap of rehashing too much of what's gone before, ala the Ultimate line (which I did like for a while).
 
Dead said:
My only hope is that these are at least 100 page OGNs
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Ain't It Cool News ran an interview with both scenarists and in it, JMS talks about a book "well over 100 pages".

I'm also concerned about the regularity of it and if we're a going to see scenarists change a lot between books.
 
Mistouze said:
Ain't It Cool News ran an interview with both scenarists and in it, JMS talks about a book "well over 100 pages".

I'm also concerned about the regularity of it and if we're a going to see scenarists change a lot between books.
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Sweet.

As I write these words, the script is very close to being finished (we're talking a book of well over a hundred pages), and we've got oodles of art finished.
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"well over" nice. Hopefully Johns Batman is similar.
 
Mistouze said:
But series are written all through their run by one person.
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Yes they are different beast. But there doesn't seem to be enough effort in starting new comics/franchises just reboots of the old.
 
You just can tell Alfred can fuck some shit up and maybe has a dark past, making the cane useless except for that part that we are supposed to say HOLY SHIT when he starts doing backflips.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
...I really wish this rumor would just stop. :|
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Seriously. Based on everything Morrison has said about writing WW, thats a book I never want to see happen
 
The twice a year trade paperback format is promising, they have time to actually put together cohesive plotlines, which monthlies just can't do.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
...I really wish this rumor would just stop. :|
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There's enough room in the universe for a morrison WW.


On-Topic. ... ANOTHER retelling of their origin stories? FFS. Also, Azzarello is just starting his Pulp-Batman universe too. seems like a lot of redundancy to me.

Someone once said that the most interesting stories about the the DC Icons are their origin stories, while for Marvel, it's their character. This seems to be more true every time DC does one of these.

day one
 
Anticitizen One said:
what has he said?
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Here's the interview

Grant Morrison said:
GM: I wondered about that myself. I love what Gail Simone (especially) and other writers have done to empower the Wonder Woman concept but I must admit I’ve always sensed something slightly bogus and troubling at its heart. When I dug into the roots of the character I found an uneasy melange of girl power, bondage and disturbed sexuality that has never been adequately dealt with or fully processed out to my mind. I’ve always felt there was something oddly artificial about Wonder Woman, something not like a woman at all.

Having said that, I became quite fascinated by these contradictions and problems and tried to resolve them for what turned into a different project entirely. Partly because I didn’t want to use any of that new material in Final Crisis, I relegated Wonder Woman to a role that best summed up my original negative feelings about the character. My apologies to her fans and I promise to be a little more constructive next time around.
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Basically he was not "feeling" the character then and was working on way to put his spin on the character. Yeah it could turn into a Morrison Earth One WW book. Wait & See.
 
Tamanon said:
Basically that he hates writing her.

But it could be worse, it could be Frank Miller doing Wonder Woman:Earth One.
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"I wouldn't let you limp dicks into my Amazonian snatch. Do you old fags know who I am? I'm the god damned Wonder Woman!"
 
Honestly, I'm just tired of seeing the "Morrison on Wonder Woman" rumor pop up all the time, like that's the only thing that'd get people interested in the character. The guy does one interview, tells fans he doesn't "get" the character but would like to do her "his way", hinting at a possible WW project in the pipeline, and people get all tingly just because it's Morrison.

I'd be more interested in seeing what Greg Rucka could do with an Earth One Wonder Woman. His time on the regular series was FAR too short, and his presence is missed.

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And Frank Miller's feminazi/whore Wonder Woman from ASB&R was a goddamn travesty bordering on bad comedy. :lol
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
I like the idea a lot but...

1-- ditch the name. Too much confusion with the old Earth One.
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The audience this is intended will have no idea what the old Earth One is, and the only people who do understand what it is have Phds in comic book astrophysics and will have no problem wrapping their head around the difference.
 
Spike Spiegel said:
They're not THAT rare, are they? Devilman springs to mind almost immediately.
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They're pretty rare overall. You may get a few in a year but it's pretty uncommon to see it otherwise. You'll see sequel series more often than reboots.

bengraven said:
I'm thinking more animes and OAVs I suppose.

I'm thinking of Tenchi Muyo and Evangelion.
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It's not that common in anime either. Tenchi Muyo has two separate continuities and maybe one reboot (been awhile since I've even thought of the series) and Evangelion has one reboot that could maybe just be a continuation. :lol

Devilman, Cyborg 009, Yatterman, and a few others may have remakes or reboots though but those are pretty endearing to the japanese so they redo it once and awhile for the next generation of kids to watch.
 
LiveFromKyoto said:
The audience this is intended will have no idea what the old Earth One is, and the only people who do understand what it is have Phds in comic book astrophysics and will have no problem wrapping their head around the difference.
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Yeah, ut if they read and like it and go looking for more.... confusion.
 
Alan Moore is releasing LXG:Century one trade a year, it sounds good but if the books are great then the wait becomes a bitch.
 
it would be cool if DC had some balls and really started from scratch with a reboot. Reset everything and just have Batman and his villians. No Robin. No Batgirl. No fucking Oracle. No "Batman teams up with Green Latern and Wonder Woman to rescue Superman on an alien planet" bullshit. Just Batman and keep him solo and act like all that other crap never happened.
 
RunWhiteBoyRun said:
I wish they would have messed with Superman's costume a bit. This would be a perfect time to change some stuff on it and see what happens.
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Look at the abdomen/thigh area, it's been tweaked. Lines and a two-tone color scheme?
 
RunWhiteBoyRun said:
I wish they would have messed with Superman's costume a bit. This would be a perfect time to change some stuff on it and see what happens.
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I think Superman's costume, for better or worse, is too iconic to ever really contemplate changing up beyond little flairs here and there. Besides, the most interesting thing about Superman has never been Superman himself, but how he fits into the world and the people reacting to him. (For this reason, I loved Superman Returns and its attempt to explore Superman as a Christ-like figure in public conciousness. I don't think it nailed it 100%, but it was certainly an interesting place to push the character).

Regarding this start-clean-and-only-two-trades-a-year idea - GOOD. Long running canonical universes don't make for good storytelling. Every now and again you might get a cool title, but they tend to be the ones that do their best to isolate themselves from the running clusterfuck of the ongoing universe.

And yeah, I echo the hope this isn't just an excuse for story rehash.

Also, if the Joker ends up being all Heath Ledgered I'll be very disappointed. (Nothing wrong with that particular take; I loved it; I'd just like to see something new, fresh from any previous influence).
 
Anticitizen One said:
DC announced today "DC:Earth One" a brand new continuity for the DC Universe that will begin with Superman and Batman. It will be Trade Paperback format only and will be released twice a year. Superman will be written by JMS and Batman will be written by Geoff Johns. More at the link.
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If they don't fuck this up it could be awesome.

I've been saying for years they just need to shelve these characters until they have good damned stories to tell with them. In this format it should weed out a lot of the bullshit.

Not digging that Superman art though. :\
 
Spike Spiegel said:
Look at the abdomen/thigh area, it's been tweaked. Lines and a two-tone color scheme?
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I think I see what your talking about.. maybe a darker blue or black color?
Suairyu said:
I think Superman's costume, for better or worse, is too iconic to ever really contemplate changing up beyond little flairs here and there.
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I do agree with you mostly. I just want to see something different with Supes, you can always switch back to the old duds whenever.
 
Suairyu said:
Also, if the Joker ends up being all Heath Ledgered I'll be very disappointed. (Nothing wrong with that particular take; I loved it; I'd just like to see something new, fresh from any previous influence).
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I liked Tony Daniel's Joker in Batman RIP.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
If they don't fuck this up it could be awesome.

I've been saying for years they just need to shelve these characters until they have good damned stories to tell with them. In this format it should weed out a lot of the bullshit.

Not digging that Superman art though. :\
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Straight content wise twice a year is the standard rate for TPBs, though, isn't it? Two 6 issue arcs. I like that they're cutting out what would be the middleman for this audience, though (I went through the whole Ultimate Spider-man run on trades).
It will be neat to see how this will change the shape of the stories, though.
 
Btw, wasn't that Doc Savage/Batman book by Azzarello supposed to be set on Earth-One?

OMG NEW CONTINUITY MIGHT ALREADY BE FUCKED UP! :lol
 
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