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Wark
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RoH said:
You can always check out the comic (or downloadable interactive comic book) and the animated film, Dead Space: Downfall. Also, No Known Survivors details a few things that happened prior to the game.
Just finished it, pretty easy final boss (not unlike RE4), overall a great game.
Although it uses pretty much EVERY SINGLE sci-fi horror and videogame cliche/trope, it still comes out pretty atmospheric and unique. The ship itself feels pretty real and natural, and still contains a lot of variety. Like any other 'horror' games, this game isn't that scary, since I at least find it hard to be scared of a game.
What this game (and the RE games) does is create stress by limiting your resources and making you somewhat helpless in face of many enemies (in RE4 you can't move and shoot, but your kicks do alot of damage, while in Dead Space you can move and shoot but you're pretty helpless in close quarters). In that aspect, this game (for me atleast) really succeeded, I was really stressed and I died many times.
From a presentation point of view this game is perfect, one of the very best in this generation. Perfect controls (
), the sound and music are great, and the graphics are amazing. Also - not having any HUD is really refreshing. When is the last time you played a game when everything you see is actually there - in Dead Space, Isaac sees everything that the player sees. There's nothing painted over. I wish other games would follow this example.
Bottom line, if you enjoyed RE4 you should really get this game.
Although it uses pretty much EVERY SINGLE sci-fi horror and videogame cliche/trope, it still comes out pretty atmospheric and unique. The ship itself feels pretty real and natural, and still contains a lot of variety. Like any other 'horror' games, this game isn't that scary, since I at least find it hard to be scared of a game.
What this game (and the RE games) does is create stress by limiting your resources and making you somewhat helpless in face of many enemies (in RE4 you can't move and shoot, but your kicks do alot of damage, while in Dead Space you can move and shoot but you're pretty helpless in close quarters). In that aspect, this game (for me atleast) really succeeded, I was really stressed and I died many times.
From a presentation point of view this game is perfect, one of the very best in this generation. Perfect controls (
except for the Asteroid parts
Bottom line, if you enjoyed RE4 you should really get this game.
jon bones said:
I wouldn't worry about ammo, unlike in Resident Evil the enemies drop ammo, so while their isn't an infinite supply of ammo it's enough that you never really are fucked.
At least thats the way it is on medium, but I can't imagine it's much different on Hard...
I've only just started this. The plot/setting is completely derivative but I've never seen it in a game so it's floating my boat. The complete immersion is great too.
Seems like there's a bit of backtracking in the first two chapters. I don't really mind it but I'd rather it wasn't there.
Everything else is spot on. I first played it on my mate's SDTV and it looked great. On my HDTV it looks even better. Sound is superb too. Hope I get a bit more variation in enemy designs though.
Can't wait to get further into it.
Seems like there's a bit of backtracking in the first two chapters. I don't really mind it but I'd rather it wasn't there.
Everything else is spot on. I first played it on my mate's SDTV and it looked great. On my HDTV it looks even better. Sound is superb too. Hope I get a bit more variation in enemy designs though.
Can't wait to get further into it.
Des0lar said:
That's a great point actually. I could be very wrong (after all I'm only just starting) but, once I've been through a room going through it again I'm not expecting any surprises. The game may surprise me later on though.
Oh, one final moan... playing on normal and it's not very taxing at all. I only say that cos I suck at gaming and so was expecting it to be a little tougher.
Good stuff EA. I know there was a bit of doubt about this but it's fantastic so far.
Alphahawk said:
Yea, I notice that if I can use less than 6 plasma cutter shots to kill an enemy, I can come out net positive with the ammo drop :lol That helps a lot. I keep a few save spots, but it's really helpful.
I'm at the end of Ch1 about to go to Ch2, I think I'm going to buy the Level 2 suit and some ammo with the cash I've found. Not sure if the assault rifle is worth the cash right now.
Always-honest
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Des0lar said:
yep, backtracking works great in this game and never felt tdious to me.
Zeouterlimits
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Oh shoot. And I presume you only have the one save?laserbeam said:
gregor7777 said:
Yes.
No.
Eh? Did you play it on Xbox or something? DOOM 3 PC is in another league of control.
Yes.
No. However it's a funny statement because Dead Space basically uses DOOM 3s story entirely. Both games have you in a place where
dudes have dug up an alien artifact, and all hell breaks loose. Religious nuts or just plain retards decide to work against humanity and further the alien / zombie / bad guys consuming of the human race.
Now people keep misreading or misinterpreting what I'm saying here. I'm not saying DOOM 3 is a better game (although personally for me it is, but that's not the point), I'm saying DOOM 3 did atmosphere and story better. Dead Space plays better. It is very refined in the gameplay and general direction of the title. Extremely polished. But all the tiny things DOOM 3 did that Dead Space didn't to build up an atmosphere of dread, was just worlds apart.
Dead Space tries some of these, like whispering and half dead dudes talking. But all the instances don't have any meaning to them. You can stop and hear the whispering in Dead Space and it's just the same wave file played over and over but in different areas. In DOOM 3 the whispering and other effects created tension because they had meaning behind them. For instance one specific area where you hear some whispers, you could just walk past that area and never think anything of it. But if you stop and listen it's a woman talking about how she's lost her baby. Further into the level you hear the muffled sounds of a baby crying. They start something and then build on it further down the line. Dead Space was just atmospheric sounds by the numbers. So much so that I lost count of how many times I heard the 'metal canister hitting a metal railing' sound effect, and by the time I was half way through the game it didn't worry me anymore. In fact it did the opposite and took me out of the experience because you hear in your brain 'oh there's that fake sound again'.
In summary. Dead Space is a better game. More accessible, easier to play, etc. It doesn't have the bullshit cheap crap that was in DOOM 3. The monster closets. BUT, DOOM 3 had atmosphere nailed, and will remain my number 2 horror game behind Silent Hill 2.
It's a shame I found everything in Dead Space so predictable. The story, the characters, I knew how it was going to play out from the beginning. I was hoping for surprises. Unfortunately the only surprise of the entire game was the very last scare. Which was awesome by the way. I dreamed about it last night too :lol
JasonUresti
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Interesting. I haven't played through Doom 3, just the demo, so I have not encountered any impressive sound design in that game., which I assume comes more to the front later on when the invasion is in full force.
To my sensibilities, harsh, jarring sounds are far more disturbing and uncomfortable to play through than the old, moldy cliche of whispering voices. Owing most likely due to it being used in so many movies and games, the "scary" whispering voices mean almost nothing to me, in a creating a sense of fear. Its been used so much, it almost takes on a feeling of comfort, of belonging, when playing or a watching a horror scene. It nearly becomes reassuring in its familiarity.
Not trying to criticize your position, or say its wrong, just showing how to different ears and minds, Dead Space could create a more disturbing atmosphere than id's game (again, keeping in mind I've not played Doom3 to any extent great enough to form a reasonable criticism).
To my sensibilities, harsh, jarring sounds are far more disturbing and uncomfortable to play through than the old, moldy cliche of whispering voices. Owing most likely due to it being used in so many movies and games, the "scary" whispering voices mean almost nothing to me, in a creating a sense of fear. Its been used so much, it almost takes on a feeling of comfort, of belonging, when playing or a watching a horror scene. It nearly becomes reassuring in its familiarity.
Not trying to criticize your position, or say its wrong, just showing how to different ears and minds, Dead Space could create a more disturbing atmosphere than id's game (again, keeping in mind I've not played Doom3 to any extent great enough to form a reasonable criticism).
I had this game a couple weeks ago but didn't open it since it was a free game from the buy 2 get 1 free Toys R Us deal and wanted to make sure I got Little Big Planet exchanged. Just opened it today and wow...this game is pretty good. Graphics are awesome, sound is great with headphones...
rainking187
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laserbeam said:
I think you might need a different key, if you're using that thing that tells you where to go next I had the same problem. It directed me straight to a locked door instead of to the key I needed to open the door.
Tokubetsu
Member
jon bones said:
You really won't have to worry about PC ammo, especially if you're using it exclusively for that achievement. When you can, buy the line cutter and just keep selling it's ammo. 3000 credits a stack and it drops often if you've got it equipped. Im halfway through chapter 5 and I pretty much NEVER go below 50 rounds of pc ammo and I rarely actually buy. If you've got the damage upgraded as well, you'll be killing most things in like 2 shots.
JasonUresti said:
You are correct of course. Everyone's different and what creeps people out is entirely subjective. If you get creeped out by loud jarring sounds then yes, Dead Space is the best game for that. I can safely say and have done on a number of previous occasions, that the sound in the game is absolutely incredible.
Me however, what really creeps me out is the stuff you don't hear unless you're paying attention. The stuff that gets me is the stuff going on in the background. To be doing something then all of a sudden realise something really sinister or horrible is happening in your peripheral vision, or quiet and subdued behind loud sounds. Those things are my "holy fuck this is awesome" moments.
Zeouterlimits
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Just ploughed through the last three chapters and finished it (credits are still rolling, oh Havok physics, cool).
Hats off to EA Redwood Shores, they did a fine job.
Wow. I have to say, it's a great game, really well polished (yes, everyone says it, it's true). I do feel the game wasn't varied enough, it became a fetch quest every chapter, which really dulled the fear (by chapter 8/9 it was pure tension, but the atmosphere had really waned at that stage). From the very first flash of Nicole on the tv screens I knew she was already dead and just a figment/controlled by the villain of the game. The plot really could have been better (instead of insultingly obvious), same with the audio/text logs, a huge missed opportunity when compared with System Shock 2/Bioshock.
One final annoyance (do remember that I really enjoyed it
) is the fact that the final trailer they released showed the final boss. I feared when I saw the trailer that he was the final boss, lo & be hold I was right. I think that's un-necessary and dampened the excitement at the scale of the beast.
One final annoyance (do remember that I really enjoyed it
) is the fact that the final trailer they released showed the final boss. I feared when I saw the trailer that he was the final boss, lo & be hold I was right. I think that's un-necessary and dampened the excitement at the scale of the beast.Tokubetsu said:
I have no problem using other weapons, I don't care about achievements. The first node I found I used to upgrade the PC damage (I'm saving the other node until I find another, so I can actually upgrade something instead of moving in a direction on the board).
I'll def check out the line cutter as soon as I can afford it
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This is probably the least fun I have ever had playing a game.Jtwo said:
The loud blaring horns in the soundscape are obnoxious as hell, the monster look like bullshit. The combat is ridiculously simplistic. So simplistic that the only way they could make the game difficult enough to play was to not give you enough ammo.. to the point where for the last 3 fucking checkpoints I've hit I've had NONE. I'm about to give up. I just threw my controller at the wall. I type this in a room lit by only the pause screen which is overlayed with the "please reconnect controller" notification.
The only thing this game has in spades is the presentation.
Holy Shit. Played this baby last night for the first time and loved it. Gonna play some more later tnite .
Q: Why is it so hard to come around health, plus ammo runs out so fast, damn?
EDIT:u sir below me : why the hell the you spoil the plot?
.Q: Why is it so hard to come around health, plus ammo runs out so fast, damn?
EDIT:u sir below me : why the hell the you spoil the plot?
i knew it in the back of my mind anyways, but still..
I'm playing through the game now, but I gotta say, this story has been told countless times. Now I haven't beaten the game yet, but I just knew there was going to be some crazed scientist that was behind all this. And I just got to that bit of the game. Fun game. Terrible story. And it's not scary. At all.
Has anyone seen the Dead Space movie yet? Should I finish the game before watching that? I don't want to ruin any surprises in the game.
Has anyone seen the Dead Space movie yet? Should I finish the game before watching that? I don't want to ruin any surprises in the game.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Just picked up this game on the PC. It's awesome. Great atmosphere. The team behind this one deserves some applause. Good stuff.
blitztidues
Member
So what do you guys think about the end? Did Nicole turn into a Necromorph or is Isaac just having a hallucination? I'm going for the latter.
JasonUresti
Member
Mar_ said:
I agree with you on the subtle bits of horror being the best, the little things that you don't realize are indicative of something terrible until its too late.
Creating moments like in games in general seems difficult, as its hard for the developers to know where a player may be looking with the camera, or time things based on a players movement, which can be too erratic to relied upon for pacing.
Anyway, Doom 3 is pretty good you say? Does it move away from the monster in the closet and spawn behind the player situations, or is that an element all the way through?
Gamer @ Heart
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I marathoned through this game in order to beat it before Fable 2 came. I loved it. Asteroids where no big deal. I agree with everyone though that the game just wasnt scary. I would have loved more RE4 like bosses (like the thing in the castle sewers). I felt too powerful in this game, but the mechanics and upgrading kept the fun high.
This game also completely justified the $150 5.1 wireless headphones i bough a while back. So awesome.
This game also completely justified the $150 5.1 wireless headphones i bough a while back. So awesome.
JasonUresti said:
The monster closets aren't bad initially but progressively get worse over the course of the game. So bad that in the last few levels they don't even try and put the monsters in the environment anymore. They just spawn in around you when you pick something up. That was my main problem with the game, the developers just got really lazy at the end.
However, if you can handle that crappy game mechanic, where you can pretty much guarantee 95% of the time a monster will burst out of somewhere / spawn in whenever you pick up an item. The rest of the game is absolutely incredible. At least, it was on PC. I don't know if it's horribly broken on console. I do know however that they removed quite a bit of content from the console versions.
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I have not played Turning Point, but I have played Sonic Spinball.
MWS Natural
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:lol ditto.Aeon712 said:
Can anyone explain the ending to me? lol Ghost in the shell type ish??
edit: I can't believe how anyone with a quality surround sound system could not think this game was scary.
blitztidues said:
that was her. Nicole killing herself only made her a perfect target for those manta ray things that turn bodies into monsters. The hive mind of the necromorphs is what caused isaac to think he was talking/seeing her. However after he destroys the planet his hallucinations should have stopped. So basically Isaac dies in the end.
DevelopmentArrested
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yup im at chapter 9 and am about done with the game
cool little gem but got tired of it quick
great sound and graphics and overall a good purchase
cool little gem but got tired of it quick
great sound and graphics and overall a good purchase
Zeouterlimits
Member
big_z said:
It reminds me of the closing scenes in Event Horizon, and just like there, I also think it was a hallucination. While it's very likely that Nicole became a necromorph I think it's also possible that either stress/remnants of the marker were the cause of the hallucination.
To be killed by a single necromorph in the end seems a tad.... 'unfair'? Unfair is a bad way of putting it...
To be killed by a single necromorph in the end seems a tad.... 'unfair'? Unfair is a bad way of putting it...