Death Stranding 2 has already fallen under Forza Horizon 5 on the PlayStation Store (US, UK, France, and Germany).

What a stupid comparison from a generally stupid poster. Also gotta love the green rat brigade celebrating forza selling well on Playstation. Its like a guy bragging about how many other guys are screwing his wife.
 
Last edited:
Forza caters to a way larger group of people.
I love DS2 but try explaining the game to someone and what they are getting into. An over simplification of UPS simulator, which isnt really wrong- but not exactly fair either. lol

Hideo will survive
when I first played DS1 the first few intro chapter is a UPS simulator, but when the open world unlocked, this game really shines and there's a lot of gameplay mechanic and surprisingly combat
 
FH5 isn't being discounted. It's $60 on PlayStation store. Those lists are sorted on revenue anyway, so the price actually swings the 'units' comparison even further.
Lmao come on dude. A fast trip to the ps store could show you this:

IMG-1962.jpg



And not only is this the first discount for the game its also the first time i get a notification on my phone telling me about said discount…not once but twice! Once is typical if you have a game on a wishlist…i got it twice so far.

Edit: actually scratch that..just got a third notification about the discount:

IMG-1963.png

But sure..its not discounted
 
Last edited:
Lmao come on dude. A fast trip to the ps store could show you this:

IMG-1962.jpg



And not only is this the first discount for the game its also the first time i get a notification on my phone telling me about said discount…not once but twice! Once is typical if you have a game on a wishlist…i got it twice so far.

Edit: actually scratch that..just got a third notification about the discount:

IMG-1963.png

But sure..its not discounted
woah forza bomba? discounted in 2 months
 
Death Stranding 2 is definetly, like the last game, somewhat of a slow burn. I'm 10 hours in and I'm starting to unlock the cool stuff and getting into the flow of the game. You can't compare Forza Horizon with DS2. Forza is for the masses, it's more like Fifa/FC, it's fast food. Nothing wrong with that, but it will pull different numbers.
 
Still, combined sales would be a better comparison.

Anyway, I guess the success of FH5 means every MS game will be coming to PS5 day 1 from now on.
Even that would be an awful apples-to-oranges comparison.

It's like comparing Elden Ring vs Expedition 33 and implying Expedition 33 was a failure because Elden Ring sold more copies.
 
FH5 is only digital and has had price promotion lately.

All said, FH5 is doing terrific on PS5, way better than on good old Xbox, actually selling units not renting it for cheapo.

I am sure MS must be happy getting 70% of actual sales on Playstation, vans Sony for getting 30% of it all for zero cost.
 
You're comparing a mountain to a mole hill. Sure add like the seven people who still buy physical games to the list here.. Sony doesn't even bother including a disc drive with the ps5 pro, Microsoft didn't think it was worth the trouble of making physcial copies of Forza.. physical media is clearly not a substantial marketplace.

I get your point, but it's a deflection. And yes, hopefully fh6 is day and date in PlayStation.
You seem to have pretty weird notions about the ratio of PS first party games digital splits. We know from the Insomniac leak that a lot of Sony first party single player games still sell more at retail vs digitally. And more recently according to Chris Dring, the majority of Astro Bot sales in Europe where physical. And in Japan most games sell more at retail vs digitally still. Physical sales are declining but by no means do big, single player games sell only a few copies at retail, the physical sales ratio for those kind of games is high.
 
Last edited:
Hellblade 2 was a walking sim that didn't overstay its welcome. Death Stranding did. It's as simple as that.

Sure jan

You: "You know I find that guy who came over for a bbq very boring and pedestrian but at least he only stayed for 5 minutes. He's now rated one of the top 5 people in the world to me."
 
To be fair Forza appeals to the Fifa & COD types....
Death Stranding.. not so much
If this was the early 2000's it would be Need for Speed Underground & MGS2.
it means nothing other then the obvious, Casuals like racing games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Sure jan

You: "You know I find that guy who came over for a bbq very boring and pedestrian but at least he only stayed for 5 minutes. He's now rated one of the top 5 people in the world to me."

For clinging to things I've said a year ago, it sure is amazing how you managed to retain the info while simultaneously not comprehending what you read.
 
Here's the truth: Death Stranding 2 could tank (it won't though) and it wouldn't mean a damn thing.

Kojima at this stage in his career is bullet-proof.
 
in second month? %25 discount that quick is wild even by ubi standards. forza targets have been missed for sure.
why? discount the 4 year old game and let the people buy the many dlc packs. sound business sense and is working if it's on the bestsellers in multiple regions. Milk those suckers dry until the new horizon gets announced this year.
 
Doesn't mean shit , there is still a physical copy of this game that's for sure selling like a hot cake , people don't buy digital when physical exist
 
For clinging to things I've said a year ago, it sure is amazing how you managed to retain the info while simultaneously not comprehending what you read.
I comprehend it fine and it's not my fault I retain information well. It's just that "I'm glad i didn't have to play a walking sim for long" isn't a redeeming quailty to be in top best games. Then again I'm talking to a person who says that Zelda ToTK is on the same level as Starfield and that Hellblade 2 has the same amount of gameplay as TLOU so it's clear logic flys out the window.
 
I comprehend it fine and it's not my fault I retain information well. It's just that "I'm glad i didn't have to play a walking sim for long" isn't a redeeming quailty to be in top best games. Then again I'm talking to a person who says that Zelda ToTK is on the same level as Starfield and that Hellblade 2 has the same amount of gameplay as TLOU so it's clear logic flys out the window.

Yes, TOTK is a boring game IMO. Glad you recall that.

What you fail to comprehend, but I keep repeating in various ways, is my issue isn't simply that it's a walking simulator. I'm fine with walking sims. My problem is the production and story of a walking sim only takes me so far. I need meat if it's going to go 10+ hours. I taper off and get bored. Hellblade is a short game. The game ends before I hit this boredom. Death Stranding continues for another 50-100 hours.

Hope you understood that concept this time. Not sure how to explain it further. Seems clear enough to me.
 
Rage bait. Pointless. What matters is DS2 is the best and most beautiful game of this Ps5 generation. It will take the fun away from gaming if we allow ourselves be influence by comments, grapevine news or articles whether its true or not. Those who really wants this game but allowing themselves be influence by grapevine news, comments or articles will really miss allot because DS2 is really one of the best game of this generation.
 
Last edited:
It ran over GT with 2 million copies sold?

P.S. Don't smoke alone. Share with the rest of us.
Hmmm let see close to 3 years head start but, no where near as fun as FH. Let's see where we are in about 3 years before yawl pop a wheelie with GT. Especially on a series that never been on PlayStation! I think surprises are quite possible with this one! It's not one of Xbox's top sellers because its boring! If you've never played tag in FH you haven't lived online!
 
Last edited:
DK Bananza is tracking 10 times higher than Death Stranding 2 in many European countries on Amazon. Death Stranding 2 will have a much higher digital ratio of course, but not enough to bridge such a massive gap. Shows what kind of audience PS has built up, when a game like DS2 can't muster much competition on a massive almost 80M+ install base compared to a game releasing to an miniscule install base. PS is fully about CoD, EA sports games and live service these days, with big single player games struggling to sell. Same we saw with FF7 Rebirth and FF XVI.
 
Last edited:
DK Bananza is tracking 10 times higher than Death Stranding 2 in many European countries on Amazon. Death Stranding 2 will have a much higher digital ratio of course, but not enough to bridge such a massive gap. Shows what kind of audience PS has built up, when a game like DS2 can't muster much competition on a massive almost 80M+ install base compared to a game releasing to an miniscule install base. PS is fully about CoD, EA sports games and live service these days, with big single player games struggling to sell. Same we saw with FF7 Rebirth and FF XVI.
Games sell more around console launch - especially those exclusive to new said console. Otherwise, why would anyone buy a console with no new games to play?

It's the same reason why Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart had achieved 1.5M+ sales around launch when the PS5 had a much smaller base. And the same reason why AC Valhalla sold so many more copies than previous and subsequent AC iterations, because it launched around the same time as PS5/XSX/XSS console launch.

DK Bananza is one of the two Switch 2 exclusives right now? Of course, it will high a higher attach rate.

Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are also a good example. The 1st game sold a lot more because of how close it launched to NS 1.
 
DK Bananza is tracking 10 times higher than Death Stranding 2 in many European countries on Amazon. Death Stranding 2 will have a much higher digital ratio of course, but not enough to bridge such a massive gap. Shows what kind of audience PS has built up, when a game like DS2 can't muster much competition on a massive almost 80M+ install base compared to a game releasing to an miniscule install base. PS is fully about CoD, EA sports games and live service these days, with big single player games struggling to sell. Same we saw with FF7 Rebirth and FF XVI.
Are we seriously comparing DONKEY KONG to a game like Death Stranding? I'm happy Sony is willing to fund weird and niche games like DS. Can we stop this uncessarry trolling.
 
Fetch Quest Simulator 2 vs. one of the best racing games.

The choice isn't difficult.
No wonder racing games are a dead genre if FH5 is considered one of the best games of its genre.
Anyway, Death Stranding 2 has long legs (or strands, pun intended), its probably already a success. Big ups to Sony for funding weird titles like DS2, the other publishers, especially hardware manufacturers would rather give us mario and forza slop, same shit for the past twenty years.
 
No wonder racing games are a dead genre if FH5 is considered one of the best games of its genre.
Anyway, Death Stranding 2 has long legs (or strands, pun intended), its probably already a success. Big ups to Sony for funding weird titles like DS2, the other publishers, especially hardware manufacturers would rather give us mario and forza slop, same shit for the past twenty years.
Call them "slop" if you want, but at least those games actually had legs. They didn't go free on Epic only a couple of years after launch.
 
Games sell more around console launch - especially those exclusive to new said console. Otherwise, why would anyone buy a console with no new games to play?

It's the same reason why Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart had achieved 1.5M+ sales around launch when the PS5 had a much smaller base. And the same reason why AC Valhalla sold so many more copies than previous and subsequent AC iterations, because it launched around the same time as PS5/XSX/XSS console launch.

DK Bananza is one of the two Switch 2 exclusives right now? Of course, it will high a higher attach rate.

Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are also a good example. The 1st game sold a lot more because of how close it launched to NS 1.
TOTK sold 10m in 3 days, while it took a month for BOTW to sell 2.7m.

Game launch sales are relative to the user base sizes; Death Stranding 2 has no excuses to perform at this level on the 80m install base of PS5.

It has the same exact problem as FFXVI and Rebirth have no matter the size of the install base they were released on, and that is the failure in expanding their audiences in the PS ecosystem.
 
TOTK sold 10m in 3 days, while it took a month for BOTW to sell 2.7m.

Game launch sales are relative to the user base sizes; Death Stranding 2 has no excuses to perform at this level on the 80m install base of PS5.

It has the same exact problem as FFXVI and Rebirth have no matter the size of the install base they were released on, and that is the failure in expanding their audiences in the PS ecosystem.
PlayStation has too many games - way too man for its own good. Switch 2 library is extremely small right now.

You can't compare the two platforms and their attach rates. They are very different.
 
PlayStation has too many games - way too man for its own good. Switch 2 library is extremely small right now.

You can't compare the two platforms and their attach rates. They are very different.

Switch 2 library is Switch 1 library.

And I don't see any problem comparing those two plataforms right now.
 
PlayStation has too many games - way too man for its own good. Switch 2 library is extremely small right now.

You can't compare the two platforms and their attach rates. They are very different.
Way too many games isn't a good excuse for DS2's dire performance; a late port like FH5 is performing really well despite many competitors on the system. Black Myth: Wukong, BG3, Sparking Zero, and many more performed exceedingly well on the same platform.

DS2 launch numbers are below DS1 in Europe and Japan, according to sales insiders, and with the PS Store chart placement right after the release, it's without a doubt going to sell way below DS1 unless the PC version is going to magically outperform the PS5 version on Steam.
 
Top Bottom