MiyazakiHatesKojima
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This post is a MUST READ! I got a feeling this came from the heart and mind of a genuine gaming enthusiast
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Death Stranding Review Thread
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IamOnline4Real
owns Galaxy Brain. Still shrink wrapped.
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hollowcupra
Member
The monster energy drink ingame? Yeah it's real.
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ethomaz
Banned
Jez spinning on Twitter? Yes, it is real.
Lort
Banned
Its not spin when its 100% objectively true. Those are real pics from the game.
Will we be able to trust the Metacritic User Score next week?
I’m afraid people who don’t buy the game are still going to post a negative review and score to bring the average down... just as some who do buy it might post a biased higher score.
either way, Will the FedEx, USPS and UPS delivery man feel a sense of accomplishment when he delivers you your physical copy?
Just kidding
You can never trust anyone. Ownership itself is a liability when it comes to getting the truth because it's human nature to defend stupid choices to avoid admitting you made a mistake.
One of the most useful opinions you could get about a game is from a verified pirate who played through it. Absolutely zero investment in the game. No reason to lie about its quality.
ManaByte
Banned
Even worse is an ad for Reedus’ AMC motorcycle show.
Psykodad
Banned
Arguing AGAINST the statement/idea that 'games must always be fun' is a disingenuous way to try and shut down certain criticisms of certain games.
Very few people actually mean 'a game should always be fun!' What they mean is 'a game should always be engaging'. They know this (although they may not have thought about it enough to articulate it) and those pushing back on them probably know it as well.
Does a game need to be balls to the wall action at all (or any) times to be good? Of course not. Few would argue otherwise.
Unless the game is literally intended to bore the Player's brain for some sort of metaphorical goal (Death Stranding MAY very well fall into this category), no one makes a game with the intention of NOT engaging the brain of the Player. Just like no one makes a movie- even a slow burn art house film- with the goal of making the audience disengage.
TL;DR- I would love for people to stop acting as if 'Games don't always HAVE to be fun!' is some sort of battlecry for those who look at games as MORE than just shoot-em-ups and fast driving arcade experiences.
Most people- and I would argue everyone on this board- already agrees that fun doesn't always have to be the goal. But you want to make a game that isn't engaging? Ok, well THAT is an argument we can have
Jaffe
Fair point.
However, "fun" is highly subjective and those saying that "games don't always have to be fun" are likely pointing that out with poor wording.
This would also explain why the reception is divisive.
Ivellios
Member
Not really, every reviewer received the game for free, so they dont need to lie in order to justify their purchase or anything of the sort.
User score from metacritic on the other hand will be completely useless, because everyone will be biased in defending or attacking the game at all costs because of fanboyism.
If you honestly believe that publications don't feel pressure from the industry I have several bridges to sell you.
GHG
Member
Fushitsusha
Banned
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Death Stranding will be one of the best games of the generation, don't listen to idiots trolling/fishing for reactions and reviews (of which most are very positive to the game anyway). Seeing your enthusiasm over the time, enjoy the game soon!Who is creating the official topic?
Damn, the Iceland inspired world is absolutely gorgeous.
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Arigatou,
Who is creating the official topic?
Damn, the Iceland inspired world is absolutely gorgeous.
Fushitsusha
Mista
has the honour of creating the OT of Death Stranding 
SAF0001
Neo Member
I hope you’re not right, many companies have fuckuped in this year, this process needs to be stoped.
ethomaz
Banned
His comment is pure hate and spin... others companies already had products on games nothing happened.
The fact the energy drink is a ingame consumable item that recover stamina while the Xbox dashboard had the same item in a more intrusive way tells a lot of the guy on Twitter.
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Endless Fluff
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This is also what I find way worse than the Monster cans.
The Ad for Reedus' show breaks immersion completely, because it shows a picture of him instead of just a logo. You are playing the dude who is featured in the ad... and you see it when he takes a shit.
He also seems like a narcissist, he loves looking at himself when sitting on the shitter. WTF man.
I hope they'll change it with a patch... if not I'm totally gonna mod it on PC so Sam can look at tiddies instead.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Not to defend ds or his core gameplay, but do people realize that the infamous gameplay video with the 10 min speed up walk on the highway looks even more boring than it is because the guy doesn't use the motorcycle?!
You build highways just for that, the guy in the video doesn't seems to understand that and he walk for a lot of time in that video but it's not how do you suppose to play the game...
Imagine not using horses in rdr2...
You build highways just for that, the guy in the video doesn't seems to understand that and he walk for a lot of time in that video but it's not how do you suppose to play the game...
Imagine not using horses in rdr2...
FranXico
Member
The Monster product placement is real.
The assumption that people would rage about product placement by either EA or MS is just fanboy BS. At least EA has done that before and people were ok with that. MS does it a lot outside gaming (first thing that happened to Skype were MS product ads in the installer after getting bought) and it's hardly the end of the world.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Ps4 base seems to lack taa ? There is some specular shimmering
FranXico
Member
Vehicles are unlocked later on in the game. The player who posted that video might not have had access to them yet.
Bryank75
Banned
Inside gaming review, actually quite detailed and balanced.
These guys didn't like TLOU, so there is no bias here.
He specifically says 'If you had a problem with weapons breaking in BOTW or the slow pace of RDR2...this might be a red flag that this game is not for you'.
These guys didn't like TLOU, so there is no bias here.
He specifically says 'If you had a problem with weapons breaking in BOTW or the slow pace of RDR2...this might be a red flag that this game is not for you'.
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demigod
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What a dumbass Jez continues to be. You should've read the comments before posting that. Apparently Kojima always placed things that he liked into his games. God knows Apple ain't paying him to put Ipods into MGS5. Quantum Break had Nissans in their game. Or how about the ads on the Xbox dashboard when you've paid for Xbox Live? Why aren't you outrage about those?
hollowcupra
Member
If you are playing online chances are that you will find vehicles at the start of chapter 3 if not earlier.
hollowcupra
Member
The ingame placements of real products aren't annoying, and i actually thought that they were a good addition. The game is fictional but tells a story of an alternative earth so why not putting stuff from real world to make it appear more realistic. It's not our job to judge if he did it for the money or his own pleasure.
demigod
said that kojima puts in his games stuff he loves and thats true. The memory chips you collect unlock various stuff Hideo likes, like motorcycles, books, movies, songs.
demigod
said that kojima puts in his games stuff he loves and thats true. The memory chips you collect unlock various stuff Hideo likes, like motorcycles, books, movies, songs.hollowcupra
Member
Performance on the base model is not that good. Graphically they are mostly the same, except the resolution, but the frame rate drops are more regurarly on the base model.
KlickKlack
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or the truth is that the game is shitty.... walking simulator.. we will see in a week when people play it.
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ROMhack
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Yeah. I'm of the opinion people should argue what something is, not what it isn't. It tends to avoid all of the fallout that naturally comes when people feel their viewpoint is threatened.
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The thing that i can already say disappointing is BTs.
Its a missed opportunity not to make them appear randomly during rain on your travels. It would add so much tension to the game and i don't think its that hard to implement.
Its such an obvious thing and i actually was looking forward to that element most of all.
Oh well
Its a missed opportunity not to make them appear randomly during rain on your travels. It would add so much tension to the game and i don't think its that hard to implement.
Its such an obvious thing and i actually was looking forward to that element most of all.
Oh well
FranXico
Member
They also specifically complained about "poor fast travel" in a game where the primary gameplay loop is essentially hiking.
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ROMhack
Member
iPods are in MGS IV too and I actually thought it was a brilliant cue to remind the player that a game doesn't entirely exist in its own fictional vacuum.
Edit: H hollowcupra has already expressed this.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
if i remember correctly from some review i saw, you unlock the motorcycble before the more complex stuff to create like the highway.
but i'm not sure of this.
The Cockatrice
Member
To be fair after 40 hours of tedious hiking you do want to fast travel at some point.
FranXico
Member
Plenty of ways to make traversal easier (including fast travel with the help of Fragile) are unlocked long before reaching the 40 hour mark.
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The Cockatrice
Member
Still not the same and far from what I would consider a fast travel system but hey if you think its okay for you then good. Just saying they do make a point. Wish people would stop dismissing personal concerns about the game.
GymWolf
Gold Member
excuse me, do you advise starting the game at the hardest setting of difficulty? i read that the game become kinda easy after a while and i hate cakewalk games.
hollowcupra
Member
I would suggest starting at normal get a feeling of how the game works and then change it to hard. The game though is rather easy, especially with a vehicle.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I already booked friday off from work.. Now I also need to stock on Monster for friday lol
hollowcupra
Member
In the beggining i also thought they appeared during rain but they just appear on certain parts of the map. When they appear on those parts the timefall rain is just heavier. It does it to pressure you to move away faster and increase tention. After a few encounters with them it's just annoying
hollowcupra
Member
It should be noted that fast travel doesnt carry your items.
hollowcupra
Member
There arent really any complex stuff to make. A postbox, generator, watchtower, bridge, zip line, safehouse, road. Out of all of these only the bridge, the safehouse andnthe roads need materials to get built. For the others you just select the PCC, select the structure and gets it ready in 20 seconds.
hollowcupra
Member
The tweet is wrong. The game actually takes you by the hand and explains everything. Some UI options are weird because it's over convoluted but mostly everything is well explained.
KOMANI
KOMANI
I don’t know if you did your own research or you’re referencing my post from the other thread, but he has given a game higher than an 85 (8.5). He hasn’t given any 9s or 10s.
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Handy Fake
Member
This is absolutely bloody shocking.
Every good hiker knows you need slow release energy, like peanuts and seeds.
This is the perfect example of familiarity breeds comfort. What they say here is that Death Stranding is demanding. Most people do not like change, they like what they're used to. I crave change in videogames. I crave to be challenged in ways that I'm not utterly familiar with. Until now, traveling through an open world was mostly made enjoyable by the audiovisual components and the knowledge that something gamey will happen when I reach my destination. Now gameplay is happening at all times. Decision making and dealing with consequences and surprises sounds absolutely awesome, sure there remains the question of how qualitative the experience will be that I can only answer for myself when I play it, but conceptually everyone should be applauding this approach. Especially when something unexpected happens that throws a wrench in your plan.
