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December Wrasslin' |OT| Dreaming of a Vanilla Christmas
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Kidani went on twitter with a reaction to the WWE British tournament:
https://twitter.com/reasonjp
From Chris Charlton:
Interesting. He also made this tweet:
That tweet makes it sound like a civil war is going to break out soon in wrestling throughout the world.
https://twitter.com/reasonjp
From Chris Charlton:
Interesting. He also made this tweet:
That tweet makes it sound like a civil war is going to break out soon in wrestling throughout the world.
SallyIsNow
Banned
The fuck is happening in that gif
Bluekaveli
Member
Time to suit up and go to war.
UrbanDandy
Member
What does everyone think of the rogue Steiner angle?
The concept that the nWo is even draftable shows how dumb they were.
The nWo go over by invading and not being just another guy.
So Vince and Dunn make them other guys....
We are still feeling the after effects of the invasion feud failing.
UrbanDandy
Member
Looks like Kop Kane neutralizing Dolph Ziggler in an awful WWE movie production.
When Nakamura left it was probably a wake call for everyone.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
#TeamAgainst till death
Probably AJ more than Nakamura. Nakamura has always been treated as second rate in that company since his initial main push fell so flat. He was there and given titles because he was a draw but they never had any intent on making him 'the guy'
Kind of like a more successful version of Mr Perfect or Savage in the New Generation.
Honestly the WWE could be expanding more than ever. Nobody can out spend them and wrestling promotions still haven't figured out how to lure top investors and advertisers.
Plus the number one thing WWE has working for them is that they are a single entity. Meanwhile promotions that try to share talent end up switching shit up so quickly. Like ROH being run just as badly as TNA or NJPW pulling talent from NOAH.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
The Kaneinites promo is a work of mad genius.
.I... hope to miss it.
Bluekaveli
Member
........ I wanted to shoot him for that
Sibersk Esto
Banned
enjoy Bubba's hard singles push.
UrbanDandy
Member
So according to this shoot interview, Buff Bagwell says that Lex Luger and some of the "boys" convinced Steiner to part ways with Bagwell.
Didn't know Luger had that much influence.
Didn't know Luger had that much influence.
I will not, sir!
Bluekaveli
Member
only some will get this
Is that a JVC Kaboom Box?
You don't have to miss NGBC, it's playable on Xbox One now.
Bluekaveli
Member
That's the tower of power brother!
UrbanDandy
Member
The Mega Powers?
SHOOTMAS Day 17
Frank Gotch Vs George "The Russian Lion" Hackenschmidt
I present to you one of the most famous wrestling feuds of all time. Crowds as large as 30,000 showed up in Chicago to watch these 2 men wrestle for the right to call themselves world champion.
First before we discuss the impact of the feud and the match itself lets look at the competitors.
souce(September 3rd, 1911 New York Times)
Lets look at George Hackenschmidt:
The best way to describe him was he was the worlds strongest man, the worlds best wrestler, and the worlds best bodybuilder all at the same time. He held world strength records and was way ahead of his time with his body building regime. This was before HGH, before steroids, and before bodybuilding was a popular art/sport. The man was a monster.
Now on to Frank Gotch:
The professional wrestler. Frank Gotch came out of Iowa to become one of if not the greatest wrestler to ever live. He would wrestle 160 times and lose 6 times. He steped into the ring with no skills and managed to hold his own against world champions and was trained in shoot holds under Farmer Burns. The toe holds that he would use along with the smart tactics of wearing Hackenschmidt down showed that his mind was his key weapon. He was the most popular athlete in America. He would even wrestle against Japanese Jiu Jitsu experts in the east room of the white house for President Teddy Roosevelt.
The promotion of the matches was epic. Gotch was traveling around the nation taking on all comers while calling out Hackenschmidt for ducking. It is again the simple truth that a long term feud between 2 people will always draw. Its a time old feud that can make money. Especially since there was a national interest of watching an American beat Hackenschmidt. Then when Hackenschmidt lost he demanded a rematch and claimed Gotch cheated by eye gouging and oiling himself up. Then he showed up at the rematch in front of 30,000 and was quickly pinned twice. (The first match he lost via surrender because of Gotch's toe holds). Claims of Gotch hiring somebody to injure Hackenschmidt also were floated around but those were proven false. All the drama with scripted wrestling mixed with shoot holds and wrestlers going out to just wrestle. Some fans were convinced the results were fixed.
Sadly this was in the early 1900's so we do not have video(or at least I was unable to find any) but the impact of this feud on professional wrestling, submission grappling, MMA, and freestyle wrestling lives on today.
I'm the last person I would consider an expert on this but I'd recommend everyone read up on it.
Past Days
UrbanDandy
Member
SHOOTMAS Day 17
Frank Gotch Vs George "The Russian Lion" Hackenschmidt
I present to you one of the most famous wrestling feuds of all time. Crowds as large as 30,000 showed up in Chicago to watch these 2 men wrestle for the right to call themselves world champion.
First before we discuss the impact of the feud and the match itself lets look at the competitors.
souce(September 3rd, 1911 New York Times)
Lets look at George Hackenschmidt:
The best way to describe him was he was the worlds strongest man, the worlds best wrestler, and the worlds best bodybuilder all at the same time. He held world strength records and was way ahead of his time with his body building regime. This was before HGH, before steroids, and before bodybuilding was a popular art/sport. The man was a monster.
Now on to Frank Gotch:
"Frank Gotch may be the most influential wrestler in U.S. history"- Dave Meltzer[/QUOTE
The professional wrestler. Frank Gotch came out of Iowa to become one of if not the greatest wrestler to ever live. He would wrestle 160 times and lose 6 times. He steped into the ring with no skills and managed to hold his own against world champions and was trained in shoot holds under Farmer Burns. The toe holds that he would use along with the smart tactics of wearing Hackenschmidt down showed that his mind was his key weapon. He was the most popular athlete in America. He would even wrestle against Japanese Jiu Jitsu experts in the east room of the white house for President Teddy Roosevelt.
The promotion of the matches was epic. Gotch was traveling around the nation taking on all comers while calling out Hackenschmidt for ducking. It is again the simple truth that a long term feud between 2 people will always draw. Its a time old feud that can make money. Especially since there was a national interest of watching an American beat Hackenschmidt. Then when Hackenschmidt lost he demanded a rematch and claimed Gotch cheated by eye gouging and oiling himself up. Then he showed up at the rematch in front of 30,000 and was quickly pinned twice. (The first match he lost via surrender because of Gotch's toe holds). Claims of Gotch hiring somebody to injure Hackenschmidt also were floated around but those were proven false. All the drama with scripted wrestling mixed with shoot holds and wrestlers going out to just wrestle. Some fans were convinced the results were fixed.
Sadly this was in the early 1900's so we do not have video(or at least I was unable to find any) but the impact of this feud on professional wrestling, submission grappling, MMA, and freestyle wrestling lives on today.
I'm the last person I would consider an expert on this but I'd recommend everyone read up on it.
Past Days
Damn. That's good.
Bluekaveli
Member
Not that one brother. THE TOWER OF POWER! OOOH YEAH!
UrbanDandy
Member
Kevin Nash & Hulk Hogan's heat in WCW
With their antagonism to each other, I'm surprised Nash and Hogan returned to assist Sting vs 3H at Wrestlemania.
With their antagonism to each other, I'm surprised Nash and Hogan returned to assist Sting vs 3H at Wrestlemania.
sf2fanatic
Member
Dem 9V batteries. Legit shook in the wallet
Bluekaveli
Member
Sf, does your dad watch wrestling as well?
UrbanDandy
Member
Why would he wear those glasses?
Hidden One
Member
Anyone know what brand that Jacket is that Finn Balor wears?
sf2fanatic
Member
Old school stuff friend. He got me into it. He was a Chyna fan
UrbanDandy
Member
Bonus:
Bluekaveli
Member
Protect his eyes from meat sauce baby.Why would he wear those glasses?
Dope. Good taste Chyna was my girl back in the day. Now with you being in Cali and your heritage, did you go to see many lucha shows back on the day? And how big were they in the area? I know you said 97 was your favourite year but during that period and beforehand, I know it was even bigger than it is now.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I wish they did this and kept their personal ones private.
SallyIsNow
Banned
That was a pretty fucking sweet post, Fox.
UrbanDandy
Member
Interesting. Although that stuff still has to be passed through Vince, and he doesn't believe in Kayfabe anymore.
sf2fanatic
Member
Truthfully back then I was only WWE and WcW at the time. Little of ECW. I didn't start watching lucha til about 5- years ago when I started expanding, thanks to WrassleGaf
Bluekaveli
Member
SallyIsNow
Banned
I used to go to mexican indies all the time as a kid. Don't remember much except for my grandma heckling the wrestlers.
UrbanDandy
Member
Is there a Spanish term for smark?