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December Wrasslin' |OT| Dreaming of a Vanilla Christmas
- Thread starter Bronx-Man
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Owens is in there? I don't see a diaper-wearing little kid in that photo
The reactions at Roadblock and HiaC are telling as far as where Charlotte sits with fans. People in the arenas didn't get mad when she won. There was no booing or jeers. There were also no jeers like the cool heels get. Just silent disappointment.
People like Charlotte in her current role of "arrogant evil queen" of the WWE, and most people respect her work. Especially as she's improved this year. But people don't want Charlotte. Not in the way they wanted Sasha when she was a heel, or Bayley when she was in NXT. I think those two events showed that while people may not be tired of Charlotte herself, they are tired of her current role and more than anything, want to see her be conquered and beaten like the heel she is.
If they want to try and turn her face before the audience is ready to embrace her in that role, fine. But they better be ready to potentially have another Roman on their hands.
People like Charlotte in her current role of "arrogant evil queen" of the WWE, and most people respect her work. Especially as she's improved this year. But people don't want Charlotte. Not in the way they wanted Sasha when she was a heel, or Bayley when she was in NXT. I think those two events showed that while people may not be tired of Charlotte herself, they are tired of her current role and more than anything, want to see her be conquered and beaten like the heel she is.
If they want to try and turn her face before the audience is ready to embrace her in that role, fine. But they better be ready to potentially have another Roman on their hands.
FallingEdge
Member
merry christmas to you too mr data west
SallyIsNow
Banned
What's up with Pikmark picking on the young bloods? The Bob Holly of WrassleGAF
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Nah, nobody on the roster has fostered the kind of perfect storm that led to Roman's current backlash.
Face Charlotte would get Seth Rollins' current tepid face response. Maybe less because she's not as flashy of an athlete.
Have no idea if it was recent or not, just saw it when I was flicking through channels. Had a guy called Drago in it, who looked like a dragon.
SallyIsNow
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If your get any interest in LU, watch the first season. The rest is ehhh to bad.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I've got five days left to win in and the Christmas season is pretty stressful.
HashtagLapsed
Member
Just watched the 6 woman tag from Stardom.
Io vs Mayu at Korakuen Hall must be ridiculously good.
I feel sorta bad for Mayu after those WWE rumors where she wasnt mentioned at all. She is fucking amazing. Fuck knows why they would overlook her.
Io vs Mayu at Korakuen Hall must be ridiculously good.
I feel sorta bad for Mayu after those WWE rumors where she wasnt mentioned at all. She is fucking amazing. Fuck knows why they would overlook her.
FlammableD
Banned
Got my ticket to see Ibushi flip off a balcony (there's a balcony in the venue, of course he's jumping off it)
TarpitCarnivore
Member
You're putting way too much thought into this. Charolette is not the next Roman, not even close. The only reason we're seeing her so much as champion/face for the title is because she's the only one capable of carrying that belt on Raw. Sasha is not good enough on the mic to carry that belt.
Nocturnowl
Member
Christen it with a boiler room brawl between family members, first one to escape gets first pick of new years beverages.
Well I'm obviously Ricky. Cranky loose cannon imbask is Scotty. OwensIsNow is the less bad Nasty Boy Sags. And Bluekaveli is the WOAT Knobbs.
Take that, Bluekaveli!
Fair enough.
British Monsoon
Member
Same here, pretty fucking pricey though - but, should hopefully be worth it to see Ibushi in a shoebox-sized venue jumping off of shit. Also definitely looking forward to Ibushi trying to kill Ihashi the day before at a family show
BewareTheBatsie
Member
There's no way Charlotte will ever be another Roman. There will never be another Roman.
HBK is the best.
Man, been watching old Nitros mainly 96-97 the whole NWO and Crow Sting era.
Dean Malenko was just god tier.
Arn Anderson was legit awesome.
There was just something about the vibe of Nitro and the WCW ppvs, they looked raw (no pun intended) where RAW looks so polished and over processed.
Also I think I never really appreciated exactly how much Mexican talent came through WCW. I mean you always remember Ray, Conan, Juvi and LaParka but so many names pop up.
Dean Malenko was just god tier.
Arn Anderson was legit awesome.
There was just something about the vibe of Nitro and the WCW ppvs, they looked raw (no pun intended) where RAW looks so polished and over processed.
Also I think I never really appreciated exactly how much Mexican talent came through WCW. I mean you always remember Ray, Conan, Juvi and LaParka but so many names pop up.
slightconfuse
Banned
Fair enough. Seth is probably a more apt comparison than Roman. I was thinking of Roman in terms of "fans getting hip to a company 'chosen one' and rejecting them so it backfires," not that she'd receive the same level of vitriol Roman gets.
Now this I don't agree with at all. They've never had a problem putting a belt on someone with lackluster in-ring skills or mic skills or what have you if they think there's money in them. Now, if you say they think there's more money to be made in Charlotte long term - whether it's by turning her face or having her beaten at a big PPV by some babyface - I could see that. I might think it means they're short sighted or at least, may not realize Charlotte herself still has a lot of room to grow. But I could see that line of thought over "Sasha's probably the most popular woman we have, buuuuuuuut no belt for her cause we don't like her promos."
And Hogan still ruined everything.
slightconfuse
Banned
Request denied.
You can take your appeal to WrassleGAF court
Where it will also be denied.
Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Mania 2000
Into the Light
Banned
"Special brand"? You're dead to me, Into the Light.
But yeah, all of the Nitros are on the Network. That episode was especially terrible. I wanted to die.
I don't think you're being honest with this community or yourself, DMczaf.
Into the Light
Banned
Do you know the date that started? 1st hour stuff?
Early '99? Not sure. It was so bad. Why do you want to watch it? Because of how uniquely bad it was?
HazySaiyan
Banned
Took a picture of that Chris Benoit v Chris Jericho writeup from that 100 Greatest WWE Matches book. Just a reminder that this book is officially licensed by WWE and was released in 2016:
avengers23
Banned
All hail Tanahashi.
Are you questioning my shoot??
I'm beginning to think you couldn't shoot your way out of a wet paper work.
Into the Light
Banned
It was just unique. I remember reading that Nash wanted to prove a point, that they could have 0 wrestling, and still get the ratings. I just want to sit back and watch it. I remember it being pretty unique.
That was one of them.
Sir_Crocodile
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It looks like that must have been approved at a pretty high level - you can't see Benoit's face and the article focuses on Jericho, so the person putting it together knew what they were doing given they tried to mitigate to that extent.