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December Wrasslin' |OT| PUT A Z-PAK ON THE THREAD, PAL. YOU'RE WORKING TONIGHT
British Monsoon
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Fucking lol. I love how MMA fans look down on pro-wrestling. Fuck YOUR carny ass 'sport', douchebags.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Got lost in the shuffle last night, but look for some debuts tonight at Final Battle, including Willie Mack.
British Monsoon
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Two men roll around on the floor while an audience of violence crazed man-children scream for blood. In that respect it's a lot like deathmatch wrestling, but without Zandig, so fuck it.
yankeeforever2
Member
Unless punk faces shit he is going to get destroyed.
A megalomaniac boss feuds with his employees, giving title shots to those he likes even when they don't deserve it, preventing others from getting them, screws everyone out of money while treating all of them like dirt and publicly shaming them every chance he gets because he made himself the star of his own company.
Whaaaaaat. The card is already 8 matches deep. Wonder if they'll be debuting a new faction or something.
And I thought Willie Mack was on the E's radar?
3-round's of 5 minutes (5 rounds in Title Matches) where you get a mix of grappling and stand-up fighting, wrestlers mixing it up with kickboxers, that kind of thing. Rounds are graded by judges, winner gets 10 points, loser 9 or less. Whoever knocks-out (technical or legit) or submits his opponent wins, if not, whoever gets the most points does.
Pretty straightforward all in all.
You tune in and then feel bored.
He was dope as fuck, pretty much invented the World of Sport style but made it look legit. Inoki basically aped his style completely, which morphed into shoot style and then MMA. Also trained Tiger Mask and a few other dudes that would make shoot style/MMA popular in Japan. German suplex is named such in honor of him. Invented the cradle piledriver and Neutralizer (which is why Regal called it the Gotch-style Neutralizer on NXT).
Basically all the shit I've said in the past about how important Inoki was to both wrestling and MMA probably wouldn't have happened without the training he got from Gotch.
Oh shit, did he innovate the German suplex into a bridge? And I had no idea he helped train Inoki.
Does he have a good bio out somewhere? Was really impressed with him in that '73 tag with Thesz.
British Monsoon
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Gotch didn't invent the World of Sport style, he learned catch wrestling from Billy Riley at the Snake Pit in Wigan, which is where Billy Robinson and a lot of the British greats learned their craft also. Gotch incorporated what he learned into his own style, which he then taught to Inoki, etc. Watch some Billy Robinson matches, stro - legit catch-as-catch-can wrestling, no fancy Johnny Saint escapism.
Also, the German suplex is called a 'Geman suplex' in honour of Gotch, who was synonymous with the move.
Apparently Willie Mack told them he wasn't going to past the drugs test because he smokes so much weed, so that's that.
Also, the German suplex is called a 'Geman suplex' in honour of Gotch, who was synonymous with the move.
Apparently Willie Mack told them he wasn't going to past the drugs test because he smokes so much weed, so that's that.
He didn't invent it, but the German part is a tribute to him. No idea if he has a biography or anything. He's pretty important to Japanese wrestling. "God of Wrestling" is what the Japanese called/still call him.
Oh. I thought he was big in both the catch style and WoS style since all the matches of his I've seen had him doing WoS style stuff but in a way that looked far more legit and logical. I've only seen probably 4 or 5 Gotch matches ever. Billy Robinson is also dope. Always seemed to be a mean piece of shit in the ring, though. Like he'd fuck someone up at any point because he was mad or just for fun.
I've been learning a bit more about catch-as-catch-can and discovered scientificwrestling.com yesterday...where Robinson used to be a trainer. It's been cool learning about all of this stuff and getting some context to understand how pro wrestling has evolved and how much more legit it was 40 years ago.
Too bad about Willie, but if he debuts in ROH tonight, that would be pretty rad. Maybe him and Trevor Lee (?) can interrupt the Elgin and Ciampa match.
Nice. Thanks for giving me even more historical context. Adds a lot more to watching the matches on New Japan World to know this kind of stuff.
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I smell trouble.
Don't confuse UFC-GAF with MMA-GAF. Big difference and MMA-GAF is good people.
British Monsoon
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He definitely had that in him and sounds like a real mean bastard outside of the ring, as well - a lot of people accused him of being a bully, because Verne used him in the AWA as his legit shooter and would have Billy stretch the fuck out of prospective trainees, or use him to teach a lesson to someone who didn't want to play ball. He also apparently made a young Sheiky Baby humble.
I was more talking MMA fans in general, not just on GAF - I like MMA-GAF, they have that self-loathing thing going on with their pastime of choice, which WrassleGAF can most certainly relate to.
FallingEdge
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MMA GAF can stick it, brother.
man, they've seriously had that ot forever haven't they
You in for Final Battle today, man? IPPV available on ROH's site.
FallingEdge
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Of course! Still debating if I want to go the iPPV or PPV. But yeah, I will be in regardless.
If Punk wins, I will have a Pepsi in his honor.
Should I make an OT thread? Haha.
British Monsoon
Member
Bought the iPPV last night, really looking forward to it - I saw cheeseburger on twitter talking about how the set-up's bigger than anything ROH have used for PPV before, can't wait to see it. Also, that reDRagon/Time Splitters rematch.
Yeah man. You've got more chance of convincing random OT'ers to watch ROH than the sour fucks in WrassleGAF
Yeah man. You've got more chance of convincing random OT'ers to watch ROH than the sour fucks in WrassleGAF
Bought the iPPV last night, really looking forward to it - I saw cheeseburger on twitter talking about how the set-up's bigger than anything ROH have used for PPV before, can't wait to see it. Also, that reDRagon/Time Splitters rematch.
Yeah man. You've got more chance of convincing random OT'ers to watch ROH than the sour fucks in WrassleGAF
Absolutely loved their Power Struggle match, and I thought it was really cool of ROH to show a chunk of it on their television show this past week. The tag bout is probably my second most-anticipated match after Cole and Briscoe.
oh wow and here i thought UFC was doing as well or even better than WWE.
Wow those numbers are quiet pathetic in comparison. I was under the impression it was doing so much better because when you ask the average person they'll be quiet willing to admit to watching UFC and not WWE.. And i always heard people talk about this "competition" between UFC and WWE (ratings not content)...
Wow those numbers are quiet pathetic in comparison. I was under the impression it was doing so much better because when you ask the average person they'll be quiet willing to admit to watching UFC and not WWE.. And i always heard people talk about this "competition" between UFC and WWE (ratings not content)...
You'd better choose a side Sunny-Mac. You're either with those UFC/MMA goofs or with WRASSLEGAF 4 LIFE, BROTHER.
UFC is a PPV business, WWE is a TV business. Big difference.
FallingEdge
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You'd better choose a side, Sunny-Mac. You're either with those UFC/MMA goofs or with WRASSLEGAF 4 LIFE, BROTHER.
my man
If you want to, do it up. I will post there come PPV time.
Here's what I've got for the OT thread. Anything I can/should add?
TONIGHT @ 8PM EST LIVE ON PPV
What is Ring of Honor?
A pro wrestling company that has been around since 2002. They were really popular in the mid-2000s due to a roster that boasted the likes of Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, among others. Today, they are arguably the #2 pro wrestling promotion in North America after the WWE. Check them out @ http://rohwrestling.com
What is Final Battle?
Ring of Honor's Wrestlemania. It's their year-end show where many of their feuds and stories build up to and culminate at.
How do I find out about the storylines for this thing?
ROH has released a 50-minute preview show that hypes all of the major bouts. You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iX-61G16Wc
Who's wrestling?
How can I watch this and how much does it cost?
You can order this through traditional televised PPV, or as an iPPV on http://rohwrestling.com for $24.95
Will it be any good?
This is arguably ROH's biggest show ever, and their talent are known for going all-out. Yes, this will rock your face off.
Also, please feel free to chat it up in our Wrassle-GAF community thread for all things wrestling. We do a new thread each month. Here is the one for December: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942106
TONIGHT @ 8PM EST LIVE ON PPV
What is Ring of Honor?
A pro wrestling company that has been around since 2002. They were really popular in the mid-2000s due to a roster that boasted the likes of Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, among others. Today, they are arguably the #2 pro wrestling promotion in North America after the WWE. Check them out @ http://rohwrestling.com
What is Final Battle?
Ring of Honor's Wrestlemania. It's their year-end show where many of their feuds and stories build up to and culminate at.
How do I find out about the storylines for this thing?
ROH has released a 50-minute preview show that hypes all of the major bouts. You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iX-61G16Wc
Who's wrestling?
Fight Without Honor for the ROH World Championship
Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe (c)
ROH Television Championship
Matt Sydal vs. Jay Lethal (c) (/w Truth Martini)
ROH World Tag Team Championship
The Time Splitters vs. reDRagon
Special Challenge Match
Michael Elgin vs. Tommaso Ciampa
Revenge Match
RD Evans vs. Moose
Student vs. Mentor Match
Roderick Strong vs. Adam Page
6-Man Tag Spectacle
ACH and The Young Bucks vs. Cedric Alexander and The Addiction
4-Corner Survival
Hanson vs. Mark Briscoe vs. Jimmy Jacobs vs. Caprice Coleman
How can I watch this and how much does it cost?
You can order this through traditional televised PPV, or as an iPPV on http://rohwrestling.com for $24.95
Will it be any good?
This is arguably ROH's biggest show ever, and their talent are known for going all-out. Yes, this will rock your face off.
Also, please feel free to chat it up in our Wrassle-GAF community thread for all things wrestling. We do a new thread each month. Here is the one for December: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942106
oh ok thanks for the clarification. i never watched a UFC match more than a minute. But just hearing about it i thought it was much more liked than WWE. of course it being a PPV business changes things.
my man
Oh snap, I've always been envious of the Bronson/Edge Connection. I can't superkick for shit but I can splash like a fat bastard. You need a THIRD MAN?
^5, me too. Gonna sit on it and hope to maybe trade it for something I'm hunting down the line.
This should be how they reintroduce jobber matches. "No WWE superstar is from this state, so here is Jimbob from the Arby's."
But what if you won?
The last UFC I watched was 6, because it had Shamrock vs. Severn and iirc Severn was also NWA champ at the time.
So I wake up to hear that Frail cry baby is joining UFC? Dana white gassed him I see.
Let me get this straight, he wines about getting hurt in tv wrestling, now he joins UFC did this clown read my rant?, Your frail ass will get exposed on Ufc.
These fighters are no Ryback they will actually kick your ass. All that pipebomb slick talking crap will get a UFC fighter pissed off and smack ya mouth for real now.
Who is he trying to prove wrong with this?
Is he sooo pissy at Hunter that he is went to Dana like a crying baby to let him try to "get back" at wwe?. Ya thats it.
Let me get this straight, he wines about getting hurt in tv wrestling, now he joins UFC did this clown read my rant?, Your frail ass will get exposed on Ufc.
These fighters are no Ryback they will actually kick your ass. All that pipebomb slick talking crap will get a UFC fighter pissed off and smack ya mouth for real now.
Who is he trying to prove wrong with this?
Is he sooo pissy at Hunter that he is went to Dana like a crying baby to let him try to "get back" at wwe?. Ya thats it.
All right, bros. The ROH Final Battle thread is here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=142200634#post142200634
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=142200634#post142200634
¡HarlequinPanic!
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I...
I don't think he read ur rant, bruv.
I don't think he read ur rant, bruv.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Alright Scott SteinerGood lord, HHH is so wrinkly. He looks like a Shar-pei.
