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December Wrasslin' |OT| PUT A Z-PAK ON THE THREAD, PAL. YOU'RE WORKING TONIGHT
Macho Madness
Member
Best part of last night's Meltzer audio was him getting a vacuum ad in the middle of it.
Same. It's so true.
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus
and that's saying something. dude lives and breathes wrasslin, and has done so for like 40 years.
god damn wwe is so bad right now.
I'm not about to go through your post history but it was noticeable enough for me to comment. Maybe I'm working myself into a shoot (or white knighting, if ya weil), but it comes across as borderline fixation.
BoboBrazil
Member
One thing is true in life and that is WWE will fuck up anything that is handed to them in a hand basket, ie Charlotte. Why people still watch this and get hopeful for anything is beyond me.
lovely ladies
Member
We should start our own wrestlerumors site.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Is Meltzer ripping the WWE for burying Charlotte on RAW-----Their fkn NXT champ?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Whos lovely call was that one?
I think I am going to take a break. Im really pissed today.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Whos lovely call was that one?
I think I am going to take a break. Im really pissed today.
British Monsoon
Member
'Murica.
Meltzer's description of how the Charlotte match went down backstage is probably right on the money too.
Agent took away all her athletic moves (or probably doesn't even know her moveset) and gave her the figure four and chops (which she doesnt do in NXT) because "Uh....what is Ric Flair famous for? Figure four and chops. Do those, because Ric does that too."
I hope Meltzer looks more into that Charlotte match.
Agent took away all her athletic moves (or probably doesn't even know her moveset) and gave her the figure four and chops (which she doesnt do in NXT) because "Uh....what is Ric Flair famous for? Figure four and chops. Do those, because Ric does that too."
I hope Meltzer looks more into that Charlotte match.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
That pesky John Cena keeping her down.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I think you're working yourself into being worked. I have no beef with Sunflower, even if sometimes his 'Vince McMahoning' is a little grating. But Sunflower is fine. Perhaps my posts don't come across as 'joking' though, so perhaps that's something I can work on. We're all a happy family here, Heel. I wouldn't want Sunflower banned for real, I would hope you and he would recognise this.
Do I think he's a bully? Not really.
Do I think he's a bigot? Not at all.
Macho Madness
Member
"Why wouldn't they use Daniel Bryan on the show?"
"He might get over."
"He might get over."
Mr. Enigma
Member
Charlotte getting squashed in her hometown in her debut with zero build-up is exactly why I stopped watching NXT. They all turn to trash when they hit the main roster, so why invest?
What the fuck does that mean?
blackaroni
Member
Charlotte's still at NXT though, right? I just don't think a random Charlotte appearance and win over Natalya would have really done anything to promote the upcoming special event....it wouldn't have hurt either.
If they really wanted to promote NXT, then they should do a minute or so recap on Raw....they certainly have the time for it. They don't even promote their network outside of their own programming.
If they really wanted to promote NXT, then they should do a minute or so recap on Raw....they certainly have the time for it. They don't even promote their network outside of their own programming.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
I'm definitely a bully. I'm being completely legit about the Cena talk and people caught feelings over it. Love him or hate him, you've got to _________ him.
Singularity42
Member
Cena sucks and will continue to suck. He's a great corporate lap dog and can shill the fuck out of merch.
He's not even in the same universe as Flair when it comes down to promos and in ring ability. I'd love for someone to try to argue that.
Title wins mean jackshit. But good lord will they pile on about Cena breaking Flair's record.
Cena has been the captain of a listless ship for 10 years.
He's not even in the same universe as Flair when it comes down to promos and in ring ability. I'd love for someone to try to argue that.
Title wins mean jackshit. But good lord will they pile on about Cena breaking Flair's record.
Cena has been the captain of a listless ship for 10 years.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Watch and enjoy NXT as a separate promotion, don't miss out on what good it has due to what might happen in WWE months/years down the line.
blackaroni
Member
What would a win actually do though? It wouldn't matter either would it?
Not make the NXT look like a complete joke?
They had the NXT Womens Champion look like a geek, and that's suppose to make me think NXT is the future?
slightconfuse
Banned
Hey this up,and comer just beat a established star. She one to,watch for in the future.
Instead NXT look like,a joke.
bean breath
Member
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Liquidsnake
Banned
Honestly this is all I was trying to say before I got angry about it.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I attribute the bullying to your 'Vince McMahoning', the man behind the gimmick is fine though. Sometimes. I'm legit shook Heel thought there was beef though. The Cena talks needs more air time, and expanded on when you come back - the title reigns and number of titles is a silly thing to focus on, as far as I'm concerned. The bigger picture around is what I'd find important.
Has Cena done more harm than good for the WWE in that regards? I believe so. It might not be entirely his fault, but then he's never stood up for anyone (as far as we know) in the locker room gave them a real 'push'/'rub'.
Maybe I read a string of posts that misrepresented you. I apologize.
It's fine.
She lost in three minutes to a roll-up. It isn't just that she lost, it was the way it was done. The stupidity is compounded by the fact that NXT, and specifically the upcoming special, should be a major attraction for their failing network. Instead, they made her look like a run-of-the-mill loser that no one should go out of their way to see. The tag match they used to promote the NXT special in September was an infinitely better showcase.
blackaroni
Member
Eh, I can see that. I was thinking about it from a promotional standpoint. A good match is a good match. But yeah, she is the champ and I can see how that doesn't make sense.
Are there any rumors as to when Charlotte is gonna debut on the main roster?
Her losing a three minute match to a rollup sure as shit didn't do anything to promote the event.
Singularity42
Member
He will be covered in fruity colors and silly armbands in less than 2 years
avengers23
Banned
WWE's play for social relevance takes a wrong turn.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
I don't do any gimmick posting except in OT threads about poors.
Cena is a savior to the business, but poison to diehard fans and smarks. He's buried some people that diehard fans (like myself) take issue with but he has CERTAINLY done more for wrestling than he's hurt, easily. I'm posting on mobile in the damn Blood Institute waiting room and I'm bored to tears, so I figured I'd write some more.
Getting back to the title reign thing, again, winning it many times means nothing to me personally. Like I said it means you've lost it almost as many times. It's the night, the circumstances around when you did win or lose it that matter. Big, giant "changing of the guard" moments, and more.
blackaroni
Member
I wonder if Michael Hayes suggested that New Day be called The Negro Spirituals.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Could have been worse, could have been how tone-deaf EA was with their Hardline trailer. Shameful.
Mr. Luchador
Member
John 'Billboard' Cena
Cap
T-shirt
Armbands
Bicep bands
head bands
and now a hand towel, because you know... we all need a hand towel.
All that is left are Cena Jorts, gym socks and lowtop trainers.
Cap
T-shirt
Armbands
Bicep bands
head bands
and now a hand towel, because you know... we all need a hand towel.
All that is left are Cena Jorts, gym socks and lowtop trainers.
bean breath
Member
I can rationalize WWE's handling of Charlotte's Raw debut in a clear and concise manner that will convince you it was the right move if you currently feel it was a mistake.
All you have to do is send me a one-time payment of $4.99 and I will promptly send you a private message containing my write-up.
All you have to do is send me a one-time payment of $4.99 and I will promptly send you a private message containing my write-up.
They can sell a Roman Reigns themed gun, so fans can blow their brains out when they have to see a 20 minute Reigns match.
You've underestimated them.
Don't forget your texting gloves!
What's your PayPal?
avengers23
Banned
I can see WWE creative looking like they were dividing by zero when they booked that Charlotte match.
"We are in the Carolinas, so she has to lose, but she's promoting a WWE Network event, so she has to win, but she's making her Raw debut so she has to lose, but she's pretty hot so she has to win, but she's a champion so she has to lose...
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"We are in the Carolinas, so she has to lose, but she's promoting a WWE Network event, so she has to win, but she's making her Raw debut so she has to lose, but she's pretty hot so she has to win, but she's a champion so she has to lose...
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Mr. Luchador
Member
What has he done though? Sure he's granted x amount of wishes. But what has he done for wrestling? You keep saying this, but what has he done? He's the 'clean face' the 'media' darling, etc, but how has that helped WWE?
Has the perception of wrestling changed in the 10 years under Cena's reign? Not really. It's not seen as 'cool'. It's not seen as 'Mass Appeal'. The few times Wrestling has crossed boundries between sports it's been because of other wrestlers (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, etc).
John Cena is the most vanilla (irony) wrestler and persona going. Almost to the point this nice guy image is manufactured and fake, which is compounded by the fact that he's the figurehead for a manufactured and fake 'sport'. So that's part of why I feel like he hasn't done as much as Ric Flair.
Perhaps my view of Flair is skewed as I've only lived through it via Documentaries, shoots, archive footage. Where as I've been there (more or less) every minute of John Cena's 10 years of apathy.
I get you're on mobile, so it'll be a pain to go into detail to explain why you think the way you do, but when you get back I hope you revisit this discussion... as I'm truly baffled.