Ninja Scooter
Member
Wwe will waste a roster spot on Flair's daughter but David Flair can't get a look?
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December Wrasslin' |OT| PUT A Z-PAK ON THE THREAD, PAL. YOU'RE WORKING TONIGHT
Motherfucker was trained in the WCW Power Plant too!
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Cena made wrestling something you can show your children without worry of being a bad parent. That's worth a LOT. And it isn't the "cool" answer a lot of people will accept, but as a business, if you can, target those little bastard children. Their parents will foot the bill, and it's worth it.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Or Her.
She lost to the Brooklyn Brawler of the Divas division (Thats is how the WWE has treated her for 5 years now), and I love Natalya to death.
I would marry her tomorrow. But C'mon man.
avengers23
Banned
Only if he brings Daffney with him. Crowbar is not booked like Dennis Stamp.
Live thoughts on Charlotte vs. Natty by Nature:
-5 minutes, lol
-Great heel psychology from Charlotte (entrance, in-ring chatter)
-They gave her more than a fair shake in the vignette, in a way that Divas just do not get in the WWE.
-Great match-up, as they've already had a solid NXT match (the only other time I've seen Charlotte, by the way.)
-Awful shoulder blocks in the corner from Charlotte.
-No fluidity between spots, stilted.
It was an ugly finish. I would say it's a fair way to give a teaser for the NXT show, but I don't understand the psychology of her getting caught in a roll-up. I'm with you, friends.
-5 minutes, lol
-Great heel psychology from Charlotte (entrance, in-ring chatter)
-They gave her more than a fair shake in the vignette, in a way that Divas just do not get in the WWE.
-Great match-up, as they've already had a solid NXT match (the only other time I've seen Charlotte, by the way.)
-Awful shoulder blocks in the corner from Charlotte.
-No fluidity between spots, stilted.
It was an ugly finish. I would say it's a fair way to give a teaser for the NXT show, but I don't understand the psychology of her getting caught in a roll-up. I'm with you, friends.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Has he commented on his GAF ban yet?
You're one of the good ones, Heel.
I would never want my kid (if I had one) to see half the stuff Cena does on TV.
Liquidsnake
Banned
I think David weighs 250 pounds now and its not muscle.
bean breath
Member
Quick recap:
-CM Punk joined UFC because he's having a midlife crisis
-UFC and Dana White need WWE to steal ideas from and model their business after
-UFC can't create its own stars
-Ronda Rousey is a bigger star than Jon 'Bones' Jones
-UFC would not be where it is today without WWE
-To the UFC fans that rip on wrestling for being fake, any sport with betting lines has the potential to be rigged.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Has that helped WWE/Wrestling though? Or is that the reason WWE is struggling to grow? It's so middle of the road on everything it does now. It doesn't know if it's a TV Show or a Wrestling Show... and strangely it doesn't try to do either. It has no identity. You say it's a 'Children Friendly' show, but you look at the live crowds and there's still a strong mix of Teens, 20-30 somethings, as well as parents & kids.
So it's not as though those 10 years of Cena have swayed the live crowds into a heavy mix of kids and parents. If it had he would be universally cheered every time he appeared. Instead we get the muted cheers, and crowd shots of people looking like 'oh here we go again'.
I'd be interested in knowing who those 10 year olds who cheered Cena a decade ago cheer for now, if they even watch wrestling. Does Cena create long term fans for WWE? It's 10 years of ONE GUY, I'm sure they'll grow tired of him too... much like Hogan before him in WWF and later WCW.
Well yeah, I completely ignored/forgot the fact that John Cena is the biggest bully in the WWE with his name calling, sexual innuendos and general arsehole SCRIPTED behaviour. But then most of the faces are like that (Sheamus), so perhaps that's more a WWE thing than a John Cena thing - maybe the two are so interlinked now that they have the same identity and that's the only way WWE knows how to book a face.
What tweet was it that you pointed out the "simp" conversation going on in the replies? I want to go back and find out if those two were able to make their love blossom after they both finished eating.
Cena says that's Rock material, you can have the joke back
Just don't go racing to Witch Mountain because your mountain is Brokeback.
The Rock's new movie well, it's nothing like Walking Tall,
He spends all movie in a bowling alley polishing my balls.
Seriously, are you gimmick posting? Because I can only buy this shit for so long.
slightconfuse
Banned
bean breath
Member
Dada West, chill out. Go outside and get some fresh air. Leave the smartphone inside.
Oh. So Cena did the shit that lead to the New Generation era that nobody seemed to like?
El Torito = Tiny Mantaur
slightconfuse
Banned
steph being FnP at home
Why is she laying on top of WWE's top booker?
Singularity42
Member
That's behind a paywall. He's big time now
Mr. Luchador
Member
I can forgive that slightly, as that was 20+ years ago and there's a whole load of people who didn't see that stuff. Times change, and what people want/need do too. We'd probably all be sick of 10 years of 'Attitude Era' due to burn out.
However 10 years of that crap is WAY TOO LONG. WWE are afraid to change the product as they're so comfortable with John Cena being Hulk Hogan v2 and don't feel the need to change. There's nothing to challenge them, however it's hard to pin THAT on John Cena.
Let's not forget about Punk being a hypocrite and basically doing to UFC what Brock and Rock did to the WWE. Dat part time straight to the top.
Do we think he's actually going to be main eventing? I doubt his fight is going to go on last. Did Brock's first UFC fight go last?
Well Hulk eventually got tired of the shit and wanted to make movies. Why doesn't Cena get tired? Because he's the terminator. He can't be stopped.
slightconfuse
Banned
It's not about the main event or going on last!
It's not that Cena isn't tired. It's that he knows he can't make it outside the WWE.
His issue wasn't with part-timers. It was that they would bring them back, have them win their match, and make the full-timer look like a loser. It lowered his stock and his ability to make money.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Wasn't there 'talk' of Cena leaving to do movies? So let's say hypothetically Cena knows it's time to move on - why hasn't he?
Ah, so Punk is going to Part-Time UFC and take a dive to put over all the Full-Timers trying to make a name. What a gent!
Vince won't let him and Cena's too much of a mark for the business to leave Vince high and dry(by his own doing)
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Let me clarify - that's despicable to many people but if you're going by what many people allow, it's totally within their PG family friendly environment. Until culture catches up (and it has been, remember "Justin Gayyybriel") we are a slave to cultures shames.
Oh yeah? How much is Dana White paying him?
Mr. Luchador
Member
You see, even Ric Flair's own greed/deception did more for the business of wrestling!
Did The Marine make more money than Hogan's flicks?
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Probably, but that's not counting Rocky III
Noted
The Marine wasn't outside of WWE
plagiarize
Banned
Something probably in line with what they expect him to draw?
Trigger Warning
Member
MVP MVP
Who is this nice lady?
spindashing
Banned
anime as fuckMVP MVP
slightconfuse
Banned
technically everyone in UFC is a part timer. Punk is going to have omen fight in 2015 most likely. UFc is going to have 500 fights. not really a big deal
Mr. Luchador
Member
I'll allow time for Sunflower to get back to the PC to offer a detailed reasoning to his theory, but currently I'm not convinced it wasn't more than a 'Vince McMahon' post.
I haven't watched or taken a huge interest in UFC since maybe 2010, but so much seems to have changed since then.
I haven't watched or taken a huge interest in UFC since maybe 2010, but so much seems to have changed since then.