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[Rhaknar]

cant find a video of it, but can you imagine a wrestlemania Balor entrance like that crazy one he had against Okada? with the slow zombie walk and shit :O

Spoiler

never going to happen in a million years

 

[Kaladin]

So Sami Zayn's Road To Redemption is the story of the year, right?

Simple booking, based on telling a story in the ring, effective, ending delivered with a promise for a great follow up.

 

[Man God]

Think about it; everyone's going ape shit over a title change for the NXT CHAMPIONSHIP. Not WWE. Really goes to show how much everyone sees that title now. It's like the second most prestigious belt in the company now.

I actually see NXT as its own separate thing. Non-Canon™ if you wheel, daddy.

 

[strobogo]

Remember the other day when I was talking about how the only title wins that really matter are the ones that are a reward to the wrestler and the fans? Sami's win is exactly the thing I was talking about. That was an important title win. Probably more than if Sami were to one day win the WWE Championship.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

So Sami Zayn's Road To Redemption is the story of the year, right?

Simple booking, based on telling a story in the ring, effective, ending delivered with a promise for a great follow up.

Not even a question. You want to talk Slow Burn, That was a slow burn.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Second most?

Say what you will about the current WWE product, but that title still has it's history you can't deny.

Now give me pictures that prove me completely wrong

Spoiler

not Bryan, you fucks

 

[Jimmy King]

The dirty dirt sheetz are reporting that THE Brian Kendrick was backstage at NXT tonight.

Say what you will about the current WWE product, but that title still has it's history you can't deny.

Now give me pictures that prove me completely wrong

Spoiler

not Bryan, you fucks

 

[Ithil]

So Sami Zayn's Road To Redemption is the story of the year, right?

Simple booking, based on telling a story in the ring, effective, ending delivered with a promise for a great follow up.

It's such a slow burn, that the story actually began in 2013, in the Autumn, and it didn't end until just now, the very end of 2014. That's a slow burn, and what a great payoff.

With an instant sequel hook, too. That story is finished, Sami vs Owens is the next story.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

I mean shit that's happened already! That being said -

 

[TL21xx]

Nominations sent in Sunny!

REvolution was awesome. I think everyone has driven my feelings on it into the ground, that was wrestling at its best.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Liking REvolution so far. Finn Balor's paint is cool but his intro was laughably bad. It was like some shitty Cirque De Solei art piece.

 

[Sephzilla]

Balor's entrance was so hype

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

It's such a slow burn, that the story actually began in 2013, in the Autumn, and it didn't end until just now, the very end of 2014. That's a slow burn, and what a great payoff.

With an instant sequel hook, too. That story is finished, Sami vs Owens is the next story.

To be perfectly honest, it felt like this was the direction they were headed since his debut. It really felt like he was the main character of NXT, which is weird considering it's a wrestling program.

 

[DMczaf]

Liking REvolution so far. Finn Balor's paint is cool but his intro was laughably bad. It was like some shitty Cirque De Solei art piece.

We ain't cool anymore










Anthony Peeler still ain't shit !

 

[Ithil]

To be perfectly honest, it felt like this was the direction they were headed since his debut. It really felt like he was the main character of NXT, which is weird considering it's a wrestling program.

Well this is exactly what HHH said about Sami in the NXT conference call yesterday. That he's not as flashy as someone like Neville (though Sami does do lots of spectacular things), not as fancy looking as others, so he might not be as instantly over, but over time he gets you invested in him emotionally, and while it's a slow burn, you are absolutely behind him by the end.
And this was just the proof. Look at how 100% in love with him the crowd was, how often have you seen a crowd this completely behind a babyface? Not a lot.

Basically Sami is a slow burn kind of character, but the payoff is worth it.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

We ain't cool anymore










Anthony Peeler still ain't shit !

I was expecting him to break out in some sort of interpretive dance. THe paint looks boss as hell just get to the damn ring already.

 

[slightconfuse]

Best part of the main event was it didn't have 500 finishers traded

Every pinfall counted

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

Well this is exactly what HHH said about Sami in the NXT conference call yesterday. That he's not as flashy as someone like Neville (though Sami does do lots of spectacular things), not as fancy looking as others, so he might not be as instantly over, but over time he gets you invested in him emotionally, and while it's a slow burn, you are absolutely behind him by the end.
And this was just the proof. Look at how 100% in love with him the crowd was, how often have you seen a crowd this completely behind a babyface? Not a lot.

Basically Sami is a slow burn kind of character, but the payoff is worth it.

I think the important part of this recipe is that once he gets over, he STAYS over, a quality that 99% of wrestlers don't have.

 

[Exis]

Just watch rEvolution and it is the best wrestling program I have seen all year.
"Sami Zanyn if fucke-out of the business"

 

[Data West]

Well this is exactly what HHH said about Sami in the NXT conference call yesterday. That he's not as flashy as someone like Neville (though Sami does do lots of spectacular things), not as fancy looking as others, so he might not be as instantly over, but over time he gets you invested in him emotionally, and while it's a slow burn, you are absolutely behind him by the end.
And this was just the proof. Look at how 100% in love with him the crowd was, how often have you seen a crowd this completely behind a babyface? Not a lot.

Basically Sami is a slow burn kind of character, but the payoff is worth it.

That's fine when you're performing in front of the same hardcore crowd every single week. But how will that translate to different venues every night in different cities with different kinds of crowds? He can't stay at NXT forever because that's not the purpose of it. I have real doubts about him being anything beyond Kofi Kingston when he's out of Full Sail.

 

[Omega]

I liked every match. the tag match was the worst IMO but still enjoyable.

The Boss should have won ;_;

 

[Zach]

I was expecting him to break out in some sort of interpretive dance. THe paint looks boss as hell just get to the damn ring already.

Heh, I actually said to my watch partner "I think this is wrestling's take on interpretive dance."

Oh and that reminds me -- and I'm looking at you, NeoGAF Vince McMahon -- she (the watch partner) hated The Ascension and said they were "an Affliction T-shirt personified."

 

[Ithil]

That's fine when you're performing in front of the same hardcore crowd every single week. But how will that translate to different venues every night in different cities with different kinds of crowds? He can't stay at NXT forever because that's not the purpose of it. I have real doubts about him being anything beyond Kofi Kingston when he's out of Full Sail.

Kofi Kingston can't talk for shit and has no charisma.

 

[Data West]

Heh, I actually said to my watch partner "I think this is wrestling's take on interpretive dance."

Oh and that reminds me -- and I'm looking at you, NeoGAF Vince McMahon -- she (the watch partner) hated The Ascension and said they were "an Affliction T-shirt personified."

I'm not stopping the comparison until I get it over The Ascension is Kronik 2.0. Except they look like they were thought up the same year Kronink was thought up. Like 1999.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

That's fine when you're performing in front of the same hardcore crowd every single week. But how will that translate to different venues every night in different cities with different kinds of crowds? He can't stay at NXT forever because that's not the purpose of it. I have real doubts about him being anything beyond Kofi Kingston when he's out of Full Sail.

Can't wait to see you eat crow in a few years...

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

If there's anything to believe in, it's that nothing is ever EARNED in the WWE anymore. I mean it's hard to do so when everything is so pre-determined but yet they still give off that vibe. Everything forced and you will like it damn it!

Can't wait to see you eat crow in a few years...

Says the guy in a Cesaro avi....sorry bro just had to say it.

 

[Jimmy King]

Kofi Kingston can't talk for shit and has no charisma.

You don't need to talk when you can dance.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

It'd good to see Roman Reigns is STILL terrible on the mic. Most unnatural mother fucker alive.

 

[Vylash]

wwe expecting a daniel bryan pop from full sail for reigns and instead getting a haas pop was amazing

Kofi Kingston can't talk for shit and has no charisma.

kofi can cut good promos

 

[Data West]

Can't wait to see you eat crow in a few years...

 

[DominoKid]

im late but i cant believe they added "and Stairs" to the ppv title. feels like theyve ran out of ideas on the big production

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

That's fine when you're performing in front of the same hardcore crowd every single week. But how will that translate to different venues every night in different cities with different kinds of crowds? He can't stay at NXT forever because that's not the purpose of it. I have real doubts about him being anything beyond Kofi Kingston when he's out of Full Sail.

It just goes down to booking really. You really expect someone like Bo Dallas to work? Someone so gimmick heavy to shake the ground? I totally understand your sentiment of Full Sail leading talent into failure, but, Zayn is going to find a connection with the crowd because he is that talented. And for HHH to single him out as the guy he would wanna work with from NXT gotta mean something.

 

[Macho Madness]

wwe expecting a daniel bryan pop from full sail for reigns and instead getting a haas pop was amazing

WWE's thinking is that Reigns right now is like a home town guy before any crowd.

All you need to know.

 

[Ithil]

It just goes down to booking really. You really expect someone like Bo Dallas to work? Someone so gimmick heavy to shake the ground? I totally understand your sentiment of Full Sail leading talent into failure, but, Zayn is going to find a connection with the crowd because he is that talented. And for HHH to single him out as the guy he would wanna work with from NXT gotta mean something.

Also, Sami has gotten over huge in front of every audience he's ever worked. He'll get over on RAW.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

Says the guy in a Cesaro avi....sorry bro just had to say it.

Laugh it up while you can... I will be vindicated.

Spoiler

I was planning on changing to a Zayn avi tomorrow anyways.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Also, Sami has gotten over huge in front of every audience he's ever worked. He'll get over on RAW.

And you know what....he could run circles around Bryan with the stick.

But no, the OLE chant is over, not him.

cue samizaynstretcherintwoyears.gif cause it's so funny

 

[Kaladin]

How long has it been since WWE picked up a feud like Owens vs Zayn that had been hot elsewhere?

They did a few things with Punk vs Bryan, but not on the level of a real feud.

Owens vs Zayn could be nuclear for WWE if done right.

 

[Ithil]

Don't tease me, bro.

How long has it been since WWE picked up a feud like Owens vs Zayn that had been hot elsewhere?

They did a few things with Punk vs Bryan, but not on the level of a real feud.

Owens vs Zayn could be nuclear for WWE if done right.

The closest I got is Ambrose vs Rollins, which was a really great feud in FCW (but with Ambrose heel and Rollins face) but even that is WWE.

 

[Macho Madness]

And you know what....he could run circles around Bryan with the stick.

But no, the OLE chant is over, not him.

cue samizaynstretcherintwoyears.gif cause it's so funny

Bryan's underrated on the mic by smarks no less. Y'all are weird. You don't get to his level of over by sucking. Not to say he's great but he's genuine, and that's the type of thing that can overcome unfavorable writing.

 

[Kaladin]

Is it just me, or did I see Charlotte pull of a variation of that move Ibushi does where he goes for the moonsault and misses after the opponent rolls out of the way, but hits them with a second flip?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Heh, I actually said to my watch partner "I think this is wrestling's take on interpretive dance."

Oh and that reminds me -- and I'm looking at you, NeoGAF Vince McMahon -- she (the watch partner) hated The Ascension and said they were "an Affliction T-shirt personified."

She doesn't understand what it's like being a 1000 Year Old Pharaoh.

 

[Data West]

Funny thing I noticed, Scott Steiner totally got a bigger pop than Goldberg on his WWE debut.

 

[Jimmy King]

Bryan on RAW got a bigger pop than Stang, or are my ears fucked from my headphones?

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Bryan's underrated on the mic. You don't get to his level of over by sucking. Not to say he's great but he's genuine, and that's the type of thing that can overcome unfavorable writing.

Totally, Angry, insecure as fuck 2013 Bryan is my all-time favorite character. The material they give him almost feels malicious. Honestly, that injury is a blessing if the dirtsheets were right and they were gonna give him the Rey treatment.

But Sami's promo last week was so GRIPPING.

 

[Ithil]

Is it just me, or did I see Charlotte pull of a variation of that move Ibushi does where he goes for the moonsault and misses after the opponent rolls out of the way, but hits them with a second flip?

Pretty much. Meltzer even said in his recap the women's match was very Japanese influenced. Which is no surprise because Sasha is a big joshi fan.

 

[Man God]

Bryan is legit bad on the mic as a face.

Kane carried him through the comedy duo that eventually got him over.

He's fine as a heel though. Which he will never ever again be in the WWE.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Say what you will about the current WWE product, but that title still has it's history you can't deny.

Now give me pictures that prove me completely wrong

Spoiler

not Bryan, you fucks

.

 

[Ithil]

No one is good in WWE when doing the "WWE Top Face" template everyone gets. Even Punk, one of the best mic workers in the last decade, was lame as a "WWE Top Face".
Even Cena sucks at that template, and he IS the template.

 

[Macho Madness]

Totally, Angry, insecure as fuck 2013 Bryan is my all-time favorite character. The material they give him almost feels malicious. Honestly, that injury is a blessing if the dirtsheets were right and they were gonna give him the Rey treatment.

That's the truth. It's also made ol' Davey Boy Mark Meltzer to realize he was a legitimate draw, so here's hoping WWE realized that somewhere along the way too.

Zayn is better at playing firey babyface. It's all different. Who knows how he'll be scripted on the main roster. Man God out of his mind right now, that's for sure.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Bryan is legit bad on the mic as a face.

Kane carried him through the comedy duo that eventually got him over.

He's fine as a heel though. Which he will never ever again be in the WWE.

No one is good in WWE when doing the "WWE Top Face" template everyone gets. Even Punk, one of the best mic workers in the last decade, was lame as a "WWE Top Face".
Even Cena sucks at that template, and he IS the template.

I blame The Rock.

His formula forced creative to make any top face a comedy character or something un-natural about them. Maybe Roman will change that, but those bitch promos are telling me otherwise.