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[Zyae]

Bernie crushed her on economics and the tied on FP

 

[User1608]

Hillary coming back fantastically. Great dig at Walker. Both did very good in this debate.

 

[Effect]

What is she saying? Is she saying that it would be overnight? lol

She's saying if the wall street issues was solved overnight, as an example, there are still a whole host of issues that are still huge problems. Calling out Sanders focus and always bringing all problems back to wall street.

 

[Tabris]

Obama has an 80% approval rating among Democrat's and will be on the wall next to MLK and Jesus in black homes for the next fifty years.

But most of what MLK fought for were things that Obama didn't push. MLK was very pro-labour union but Obama's recovery saw most recovery jobs go to non-union positions. TPP is extremely anti-labour union.

Some of these voters need to be more informed and not just vote based on gender or race.

 

[Zach]

I enjoyed this Obama vs. Sanders debate.

Heh...

 

[rtcn63]

Her closing statement was basically a Francis Urqhart move

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

Hilary got the closing statement but Bernie won the debate.

 

[Raxus]

because she's an intelligent person with good, realistic policy proposals.

Yep. Bernie supporters need to stop being so salty. Both candidates came off strong in certain aspects of this debate. I am glad we have to legit candidates for the nomination and both came off really well here.

 

[Codeacious]

Any VODs?

Missed the first hour.

It's all on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56pLqPYcEo

 

[SURGEdude]

I enjoyed this Obama vs. Sanders debate.

That's how it felt.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

She had the much better closing argument there. Prep work showed.

I agree.

I enjoyed this Obama vs. Sanders debate.

Hahahahahaha.

 

[exmachina64]

Bernie should run as far away from Obama as possible.

 

[timetokill]

Hillary had a strong closing statement, but she was definitely getting burnt for most of that debate. Her bullshit implying you can't criticize a president on your side was total bullshit.

 

[Trojita]

Back to the JV team.

Edit: What lol. Clinton got VERY aggressive near the end.

 

[Ionic]

Hillary's closing statement was just Sander's held opinions for the last couple decades, no?

 

[q_q]

If you prefer sound bites over substance, I suppose.

Most hillary supporters do, so whats the problem?

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

That's what American politics now? Unfettered loyalty to the party? How pathetic.

No Democrat party, no New America.

 

[Evil Monkey DTT]

Well that was fun, closer then last time for sure.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

What is she saying? Is she saying that it would be overnight? lol

No, she's saying that the only thing that Bernie ever talks about isn't the only problem in America, and we need a leader capable of engaging all of those issues. Bernie is absolutely a single issue candidate and it's a domestic, legislative issue, where the president has the least efficacy.

 

[benicillin]

Hill's closing statement was great, Bernie's was muddled by wanting to respond to something Clinton had just said and then seemingly deciding not to and pivoting to his stump.

I wouldn't really say anyone won the debate, but Hillary dogging him on criticizing Obama was a really poor look in my opinion.

 

[Zophar]

Union leaders are just as corrupt as Wall Street.

citation needed

 

[aspiegamer]

Hillary won the debate,

she is loyal to President Obama,
loyal to the party

Superdelegates tidal wave

Hillary wins the nomination

Obama is popular with Democrats, so I have no idea why Bernie started down that road. There is only sadness there for him.

She had all the Superdelegates already, but yeah, she's showing incredible party loyalty.

 

[bwahhhhh]

overall, this was a weak debate (in the political "winner" sense) and nothing happened will sway anyone

 

[ThisGuy]

It's almost like this is subjective

I'm glad I wasn't drinking milk just now.

 

[Officerrob]

That crowd wtf

It's basically just the opposite of this thread

 

[Rebel Leader]

What did Hillary say?

 

[RoKKeR]

I enjoyed this Obama vs. Sanders debate.

Pretty much.

Both had highs, both had lows. Nothing has really changed.

 

[Mrbob]

Damn, I wonder who's winning Wisconsin?

Hillary unless there is a good turnout outside of Milwaukee and Madison.

 

[B-Dubs]

Hillary had a strong closing statement, but she was definitely getting burnt for most of that debate. Her bullshit implying you can't criticize a president on your side was total bullshit.

There's criticizing a dude and then there's calling for him to be primaried.

 

[Jenov]

Hillary doesn't need to go on the attack. It can only hurt her

Nah, it was a massive truth bomb that differentiates her from Sanders. Continuing Obama's legacy is a big part of her campaign, and Obama is very popular with AA and democrats. It's a valid criticism that Bernie was trying to get him removed from office at one point, and hasn't been completely supporting him.

 

[Psychoward]

Bernie lost the debate for the simple reason that he did not give voters a reason to go with him over Hillary.

Hillary lost the debate for the simple reason that she did not give voters a reason to go with him over Bernie. both can play that game

 

[injurai]

Oh god, these fucking pundits. Time to turn this shit off. These people are insufferable.

 

[ugaboga232]

Winner of the debate: Obama.

 

[Draper]

I think she took it too far. But I don't think it was necessarily a bad pivot.

She should have just said: "Senator Sanders has leveled criticisms at President Obama that I don't think have been fair. But to me, he is a leader here at home that will heavily influence how I approach the world."

It was shoehorned in, in a petty fashion in a manner I would expect from a GOP debate. Came off nasty.

 

[Paskil]

I enjoyed this Obama vs. Wall Street debate.

FTFY

 

[DarkKyo]

That debate was grisly...

 

[Ashodin]

She's saying if the wall street issues was solved overnight, as an example, there are still a whole host of issues that are still huge problems. Calling out Sanders focus and always bringing all problems back to wall street.

Except he has already talked about those issues and has said he will deal with them in just the same way about the financial system.

 

[Prof. Bathtub]

Hm, she really wanted to bring Sanders' Obama criticism up, but the whole debate went by without a good opportunity, so she put it in that statement. Not wise, but most folks anticipated that she would mention it at one point or another.

Overall, both slipped up their fair share over the debate. Whether you want to hand it to Sanders or Clinton depends. I will say that Bernie seems quicker to rebound from oddball answers, since his default speaking style sounds impatient and flustered regardless of how he's doing.

 

[studyguy]

"They really did their research!"
lol

 

[SecretDan]

But most of what MLK fought for were things that Obama didn't push. MLK was very pro-labour union but Obama's recovery saw most recovery jobs go to non-union positions. TPP is extremely anti-labour union.

Some of these voters need to be more informed and not just vote based on gender or race.

We can't all be as smart and informed as you, Tabris.

 

[NotoriousPUG]

No, he had unprecedented levels of opposition from the Republican party and managed to pass the most expansive and dramatic pieces of legislation expanding healthcare about the government since the Great Society and The New Deal. That alone was a massive accomplishment. He also got Dodd Frank passed and improved the economy, bringing our country back from one of the largest recessions in history.

He also did jack shit about the NSA

 

[Prodigal Son]

This was Bernie's night.

 

[AwesomePossum]

hillary goddamn slayed that ending, phew.

 

[Tabris]

Actually, biggest statement I could make is MLK would have protested against Obama's backed TPP.

 

[Raiku]

That was a pretty good debate. Enjoyed it.

 

[gutter_trash]

That's what American politics now? Unfettered loyalty to the party? How pathetic.

the down-ticket is just as important

she would be stronger at helping them locally

 

[zelas]

Any VODs?

Missed the first hour.

PBS youtube link in OP brother.

 

[SlowRevolution]

Bernie crushed her on economics and the tied on FP

It was a tie in the same way that Biden and Palin tied.

 

[zoozilla]

Get hyped for Shields and Brooks!!

Hillary unless there is a good turnout outside of Milwaukee and Madison.

Yeah, I guessed from the crowd.

 

[excelsiorlef]

If Hillary will be an extension of Obama with some tweaks, sign me up.

And that's the point she's tying herself to Obama because she largely wants to continue his work and progress from there.

Saying I'll be like a third term of Obama is a damn good way to go