darkpaladinmfc
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No, a difficulty option would be bad. Don't worry, on your next playthrough you'll wonder how you ever even thought 1-1 was hard.Foliorum Viridum said:
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Foliorum Viridum
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You're assuming I'm going to make it through the next level, let alone the whole game. 
A difficulty level is very seldom bad for a game. So far, I think my enjoyment of the game would have been increased if I could notch it down to easy. It doesn't mean you would have to play it on a lower difficulty, afterall.
It did feel very satisfying to finish the first level after so long, so I do understand the nature of the game and how it can be rewarding, but I do fear that if I have to spend the same duration of time backtracking through a level every time I die and whatnot I will burn out on the game and not finish it. I also lost 8000 souls at one point, which was absolutely maddening, and I had to force myself to just not stop there as it felt like my entire time playing until that point had just been for nothing. As oracrest said, though, now that I've pumped up my abilities and I have a better feel for the combat, I'm hoping it won't be such a slug.
A difficulty level is very seldom bad for a game. So far, I think my enjoyment of the game would have been increased if I could notch it down to easy. It doesn't mean you would have to play it on a lower difficulty, afterall.
It did feel very satisfying to finish the first level after so long, so I do understand the nature of the game and how it can be rewarding, but I do fear that if I have to spend the same duration of time backtracking through a level every time I die and whatnot I will burn out on the game and not finish it. I also lost 8000 souls at one point, which was absolutely maddening, and I had to force myself to just not stop there as it felt like my entire time playing until that point had just been for nothing. As oracrest said, though, now that I've pumped up my abilities and I have a better feel for the combat, I'm hoping it won't be such a slug.
MidnightRider
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Foliorum Viridum said:You're assuming I'm going to make it through the next level, let alone the whole game.
A difficulty level is very seldom bad for a game. So far, I think my enjoyment of the game would have been increased if I could notch it down to easy. It doesn't mean you would have to play it on a lower difficulty, afterall.
It did feel very satisfying to finish the first level after so long, so I do understand the nature of the game and how it can be rewarding, but I do fear that if I have to spend the same duration of time backtracking through a level every time I die and whatnot I will burn out on the game and not finish it. I also lost 8000 souls at one point, which was absolutely maddening, and I had to force myself to just not stop there as it felt like my entire time playing until that point had just been for nothing. As oracrest said, though, now that I've pumped up my abilities and I have a better feel for the combat, I'm hoping it won't be such a slug.
I got discouraged and didn't play for a few months... tonight is the night i'm going to start back and see if I can finish.
I just got to remember how to even play
Windom Earle
Member
Dyno said:
Thank you!
And already another question. Why does the Wiki list persons as receiver of the souls, even though there is no benefit? Example: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/ds-doll - Why would I give it to Blacksmith Ed?
MidnightRider
Banned
schennmu said:
Only reason I can think of.... is it's one more way to confuse us and make us ask questions
NEOPARADIGM
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peull said:
"Yeah, the servers will be coming back up. PSN happened to come back early in the weekend, whereas none of us will be back in the offices until tomorrow. But sit tight and we'll have them up and running again soonish."
http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247283&postcount=34
RPGCrazied
Member
When the server is back up, anyone want to help me with the 1-2 boss?
I mean, if I throw down a blue message, anyone that comes to this level will see it? Sorry, I'm still very new to the game and getting my ass handed to me.
I mean, if I throw down a blue message, anyone that comes to this level will see it? Sorry, I'm still very new to the game and getting my ass handed to me.
JackSmithy
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schennmu said:
Blacksmith Ed's is an option because you must give him the spoiler
Red Hot Demons Soul from Flamelurker to be able to upgrade your weapons with other boss souls
If you have some magic, then just chill up on the ramparts (run past the boss up the stairs and kill the archers), poke up from behind the little archer platforms, and fire your spell. His ranged attack won't hit you if you run back a little bit after each time. If you don't already have it, get Soul Arrow from the dude in the Nexus (1000 Souls to buy) and some spice items. Its a really easy method.RPGCrazied said:When the server is back up, anyone want to help me with the 1-2 boss?
I mean, if I throw down a blue message, anyone that comes to this level will see it? Sorry, I'm still very new to the game and getting my ass handed to me.
Other way around. You'll want to keep an eye out for blue messages on the ground while you're in body form. Most of the time they're either right next to the archstone or right outside the fog gate.RPGCrazied said:When the server is back up, anyone want to help me with the 1-2 boss?
I mean, if I throw down a blue message, anyone that comes to this level will see it? Sorry, I'm still very new to the game and getting my ass handed to me.
Mr_Appleby
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Foliorum Viridum said:You're assuming I'm going to make it through the next level, let alone the whole game.
A difficulty level is very seldom bad for a game. So far, I think my enjoyment of the game would have been increased if I could notch it down to easy. It doesn't mean you would have to play it on a lower difficulty, afterall.
It did feel very satisfying to finish the first level after so long, so I do understand the nature of the game and how it can be rewarding, but I do fear that if I have to spend the same duration of time backtracking through a level every time I die and whatnot I will burn out on the game and not finish it. I also lost 8000 souls at one point, which was absolutely maddening, and I had to force myself to just not stop there as it felt like my entire time playing until that point had just been for nothing. As oracrest said, though, now that I've pumped up my abilities and I have a better feel for the combat, I'm hoping it won't be such a slug.
use ranged magic, summon blues to help you = easy mode. dead and out of soul stones? help others for easy souls, free resurrection if you beat the boss, and no risk of losing what you've got. Now that PSN is back up, that is
regarding backtracking through levels, most if not all, have shortcuts that can drastically reduce the time taken to get through. as a side benefit though, you'll usually amass a quantity of souls on the trek back to a bloodstain so you'll end up with more than you had. at which point if you like return to the nexus (either on foot or with the escape miracle) and spend them. if you keep spending them you won't have anything to lose.
a third point to note is that your skill as a player is always improving (one would hope!) and this will actually have more benefit than stat increases ever will. my first trip through 1-1 took a good couple of hours - my second around 20 minutes.
Mr_Appleby
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duffyside said:
yes different regions have their own trophy lists. there at least four - US, Japan, Asian & Pal. I think there is a Korean edition as well. Many sad people in this thread own multiple versions.
i have three.
Mr_Appleby
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duffyside said:
because we own multiple copies of the same game and some of us have multiple platinums to go with it.
sad/obsessed/forever a soul, whatever you wanna call it
NEOPARADIGM
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moonspeak said:man the more i replay this game on a new game+, the more i realize that i really don't want to go through Tower of Latria again. It's not too hard (aside from those damn mindflayers ;_
Yeah, it's one of the few places where you can actually get lost, too. I liked it for a while, but I spent so much fucking time in there now I dread going back again.
Windom Earle
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JackSmithy said:
Yep, already did that, thanks.
And fuck 4-3, constant poisoning + stupid giant goblin + red riding hood
shffldrllshn
Neo Member
Man I'm scared of those swamps I've only heard things about it like ''poisonous'' and ''dark'', I don't think life will be the same after visiting there..
I've only heard things about it like ''poisonous'' and ''dark'', I don't think life will be the same after visiting there..Same. I'm finishing off Tower of Latria in PBWT, then moving on to tackly the 5th archstone properly for the first time.shffldrllshn said:Man I'm scared of those swamps
So dreading it, but can't wait until I can actually beat this game and see what all the NG+ fuss is about!
Mortrialus
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B-Genius said:
I just started new game+ and it is considerably harder than the first playthrough, even with my soul level and gear.
Phalanx actually just manged to kill me.
Foliorum Viridum
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Probably a stupid question, but how do I "help others"? You mean the messages people leave, right? Other than ones than hint stuff, I keep reading a lot which is just asking to be "reccomended"...Mr_Appleby said:use ranged magic, summon blues to help you = easy mode. dead and out of soul stones? help others for easy souls, free resurrection if you beat the boss, and no risk of losing what you've got. Now that PSN is back up, that is
a third point to note is that your skill as a player is always improving (one would hope!) and this will actually have more benefit than stat increases ever will. my first trip through 1-1 took a good couple of hours - my second around 20 minutes.
But yeah, I do feel like I am getting better at the game, slowly
Outside of the tutorial and after beating the first boss I've only been outside of soul mode for like a total of 15 minutes, haha. I'm a KnightKAOz said:
When you're in soul mode and you use your blue stone, it drops a thing that lets other players pull you into their world to help. Do it at the beginning of levels or just before bosses and you're sure to get pulled in.
I just happened across this video I made in my heyday... my absolutely favorite run to grind some souls. I sort of got good at this because someone told me that parry and riposte were basically useless. Ended up playing more than half of my first playthrough with the EQ seen here, just a parrying dagger and claw, no shield. Made it almost a pure action game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_VTW_CUV5w&lc sorry about the horrible quality, I had no good way to record this at the time
edit: take it back, that was before I got the parrying dagger, I think I'm using a falchion. So it actually got easier to do this run then it appears here, hehe
spoilers if you haven't been to 4-1 yet, btw
I just happened across this video I made in my heyday... my absolutely favorite run to grind some souls. I sort of got good at this because someone told me that parry and riposte were basically useless. Ended up playing more than half of my first playthrough with the EQ seen here, just a parrying dagger and claw, no shield. Made it almost a pure action game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_VTW_CUV5w&lc sorry about the horrible quality, I had no good way to record this at the time
edit: take it back, that was before I got the parrying dagger, I think I'm using a falchion. So it actually got easier to do this run then it appears here, hehe
spoilers if you haven't been to 4-1 yet, btw
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Okay, I just used my blue stone at the start of the second level. Let's see how this goes
Thanks for the help! I'm still getting to grips with everything.
Thanks for the help! I'm still getting to grips with everything.
Foliorum Viridum said:I'm a Knight
Not the best class for a beginner; going melee is hard mode in this game. If you want an easier time you might want to pick a class which starts with ranged attacks, preferably a royal which allows you to pick of enemies from a distance with offensive spells like soul arrow.
Melee is the most fun though but I would suggest waiting with a melee build until you've become more familiar with the game, otherwise frustration will just get the better of you.
I always have to think about the wise words of Léon, the Professional when I play this game: " the closer you get to being a pro, the closer you can get to the client. The knife, for example, is the last thing you learn"
Vitten said:Not the best class for a beginner; going melee is hard mode in this game. If you want an easier time you might want to pick a class which starts with ranged attacks, preferably a royal which allows you to pick of enemies from a distance with offensive spells like soul arrow.
Melee is the most fun though but I would suggest waiting with a melee build until you've become more familiar with the game, otherwise frustration will just get the better of you.
I always have to think about the wise words of Léon, the Professional when I play this game: " the closer you get to being a pro, the closer you can get to the client. The knife, for example, is the last thing you learn"
Hehe I love hearing this stuff because knowing that I only used a bow for one task the entire game my first playthrough makes me feel like a badass.
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh dear :/ Well to be honest restarting now would kill any enthusiasm I have to play, so I'll risk continuing with this class and hope I can do it!
So i started the game, and just killed the first boss. It has been fun so far, i even managed to kill that red eye knight, ( after he actually rushed and one shot me ) and got a shield from him that i cant even equip yet hah.
Now that there are multiple places to go available at once, is there a preferred route ?
Now that there are multiple places to go available at once, is there a preferred route ?
It's what your heart tells you.
But I usually do 2-1, 1-2, 3-1, 4-1, 2-2, 2-3, 5-1, 3-2, 3-3, 4-2, 4-3, 1-3, 5-2, 5-3, and 1-4.
Not the most optimal way, and depending on your character, you can switch a few of these around. But I feel it's good for a players advancing skill level as they go along the game.
But I usually do 2-1, 1-2, 3-1, 4-1, 2-2, 2-3, 5-1, 3-2, 3-3, 4-2, 4-3, 1-3, 5-2, 5-3, and 1-4.
Not the most optimal way, and depending on your character, you can switch a few of these around. But I feel it's good for a players advancing skill level as they go along the game.
Foliorum Viridum
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So I've done quite a bit of progress into 1-2 and 2-1 today. Not finished either, yet, but I'm doing well enough that I feel I've got over that initial bump. I'm still dying a lot, but I recognise when a route will lead me to a shortcut and my fighting skills are increasingly getting better.
Right now I would say the atmosphere and level design is superb, but I feel a bit let down by it being so fragmented. The Nexus is pretty dull and it definitely feels "gamey" to warp to your destination. I went in to the game expecting it to be somewhat open world-ish with towns etc. I think that would be a lot cooler.
Definitely feel the hooks of the game sinking in, regardless.
Right now I would say the atmosphere and level design is superb, but I feel a bit let down by it being so fragmented. The Nexus is pretty dull and it definitely feels "gamey" to warp to your destination. I went in to the game expecting it to be somewhat open world-ish with towns etc. I think that would be a lot cooler.
Definitely feel the hooks of the game sinking in, regardless.
shffldrllshn said:Man I'm scared of those swamps
A trick I employ in the swamp is to go through tower of Latria a lot first. You accrue a lot of poison curing items. Then, work on finishing the swamp level first, then go back and collect the items later. They offer some visual reference points when your lost and haven't picked them up.
Also,
once past the makeshift village, venture right, along the cliffside wooden path, to drop down the shortcut bridge, for easier boss access later on.
SolsticeZero
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Black leather, man. Deck yourself out in black leather. Best poison resistance there is.shffldrllshn said:Man I'm scared of those swamps
indigo-cyclops
Member
This man knows his shit!Solstice said:
hey guys, I don't suppose anyone would be willing to help me out in 1-2, would they? I keep getting destroyed a fog gate or two before the boss. I'm a magician and in spirit form, so my hp isn't exactly stellar and arrows pack quite the punch. The blue-eyed knight backing them up doesn't help things.
Foliorum Viridum
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The boss of 2-1 and 1-2 are making me their bitches.
BUT, I passed the red eye guy on 1-1. Fuck yeah
BUT, I passed the red eye guy on 1-1. Fuck yeah
bone_and_sinew
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I'll help you, I'm starting a new character anyway. I won't be available until 8pm though.
Just beat the Old Monk with a Black Phantom player controlling him. That was rad. Spearing dudes from safety ftw. That might have been the best moment I've had with the game so far, not being able to exploit the game somehow to beat a boss, and knowing it was a player that I struck down.
How anyone can beat this game without a guide is beyond me. I feel like such a puss when I find out many people didn't use a guide (or so they say). I'll be starting up another playthrough soon, and since its been awhile I've completely forgot everything I learned in that paperback beauty. Gonna just wing it and see how long it takes me. Threw away the guide as a sign of my resolve
Seriously how did these metahumans beat this game on sheer skill? Not one internet tip? Sounds like a fairy tale to me.
Seriously how did these metahumans beat this game on sheer skill? Not one internet tip? Sounds like a fairy tale to me.
SUBZERO-08
Member
Yeah, I did the same thing for the first time today. It was magician vs. magician, a hard fought battle, but I eventually won. Felt really rewarding.Havok said:
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
One thing I hate about the 'fully customizable' characters in a game like this is that once you put your points in the wrong stat, you're pretty much fucked, and thus creating the obligation to check out various guides/builds in order to avoid such circumstances... and thus saying it 'total freedom to create any characters the way you want' is sort of misleading since the game is quite harsh and unaccommodating to mistakes :\
So melee is less effective than ranged/magic? Too bad since I really like the looks for the Thief class
So melee is less effective than ranged/magic? Too bad since I really like the looks for the Thief class
bone_and_sinew
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Well if worse comes to worse you can get someone to delevel you through soulsucker or delevel yourself through invading then using white eyes stone. You can delevel everything except hp. But yeah, I'd have loved a formal delevel option through the Maiden in Black.
Windom Earle
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After not playing this for a year or so, I'm completely in love again. Good to have PSN back!
Melee is fine for the most part. Just play what you enjoy!
Laughing Banana said:One thing I hate about the 'fully customizable' characters in a game like this is that once you put your points in the wrong stat, you're pretty much fucked, and thus creating the obligation to check out various guides/builds in order to avoid such circumstances... and thus saying it 'total freedom to create any characters the way you want' is sort of misleading since the game is quite harsh and unaccommodating to mistakes :\
So melee is less effective than ranged/magic? Too bad since I really like the looks for the Thief class
Melee is fine for the most part. Just play what you enjoy!
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