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Prax

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I've been really, really depressed in the past few days. Last time I can remember feeling this bad is summer of 2009 when I was going through a breakup.

I realized over the past week that I still have heavy feelings for my ex girlfriend after seeing her for the first time in 1.5 years. I'm currently living with my girlfriend of (just under) two years so its torturing me. I finally had to tell her last night. She already knew. She could tell. I feel like such a fucking asshole for not telling her sooner. There was a slight relief in getting it off my chest but I still am crushed with guilt and conflict. What the fuck do I do??

She keeps asking me what do I do now, what do I do with these feelings? I have no idea. I want to tell my ex girlfriend at some point so I can just get it all out there. I want to know if she's thought about it too. But I don't know when or how.

It doesn't make sense. My relationship now...we get along miles better than I did with my ex. I don't want to leave my girlfriend. I love her. Why do I make things so needlessly complicated? My gf says she's somewhat repulsed by me now, though she assures me she'll get over it. I can't blame her.

I haven't slept well in days. I felt so awful after talking to her last night that I went to bed starving, in my clothes. I felt so awful I couldn't bother getting up to get something to eat or get ready for bed.

I've got a crushing guilt complex for feelings I can't do anything about. This sort of stuff loves to jump on the back of my general mood issues and drag me down way, way further than anyone else I know. My friends just tell me to deal with it and repress it, as if that's easy.

What do I do? Please god someone help.

Not that I am amazing with relationship type stuff but..
After reading this and some of your responses, I feel like you need to honestly talk to your girlfriend a little more about this and your plans of action, if any.
What is it about the past relationship that makes you feel so sentimental/nostalgic? Did you get closure when the relationship ended? Most people have nagging "what if" thoughts with past choices, but this is dragging you down a lot (or perhaps it's a "thing" you do in general.. Does ruminating about past experiences/choices plague you a lot besides this hangup on your ex that got triggered?).

It could also be that you are still madly in love with your ex and want to get back with her. I don't know. But my gut tells me that you just need to let that go. It's over. Doesn't matter how she feels now. Focus on what you have and your current life with your current girlfriend. This is what I think:

If you are the type to not dwell and overanalyze responses as if your life depended on it: Feel free to drop your ex a "Hey, seeing you again was really weird. Like a whole rush of emotions came back and I felt all nostalgic for those days again. Did you get hit with the same? lol". I don't know what her response will be, but you must be in a position to not take it seriously and move on.

If you are the type that DOES dwell and overanalyze responses as if your life depended on it: DO NOT PURSUE WHAT-IF SCENARIOS THAT ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT. Think of it as your emotions and memories being triggered by familiarity. It doesn't have to go deeper than that. Your "forgot" for 1.5 years before, and you will probably forget again.

I know my "advice" is not very gentle. And is kind of direct and possibly rude, but I wanted to be very clear. I am not a relationship expert, but oh man, I got opinions..

It's more of emotional anguish... And, believe it or not, it hurts like a chest pain. Just a dull sensation that won't go away.
That honestly sounds like crushing anxiety to me (maybe because that's what I can relate that kind of pain to). Have you tried any relaxation techniques such as breathing exercises?
Do you notice it getting more intense after certain events? And even if it doesn't go away even when you're not currently anguishing, maybe it's "cramped" in that position or it got conditioned to stay in that state.
Maybe trying to relax + soothing that area will loosen it (tiger balm/vapo rub??).
 

zoukka

Member
I just don't want to continue living in this horrible body and life. I feel like a troll monster that everyone has to avoid. Being gay makes it worse since I am the total opposite of gay beauty. I'd be better off dead than moving or backpacking somewhere. Ugly guys like me don't get any chances at a good life.

There are billions of people living content lives who don't match our western criterias of "beauty". Sexual frustration can be very hard to deal with, but there's more to life. Doing something meaningul like travelling could help getting over it and at the same time, make your character more interesting. What I've read about you in GAF makes me really feel you just a timeoff from your current situation more than anything.
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Hi depri GAF. Checking in since this december has been unresty and really shook up the good daily routine I had found in November. Picking it up again, without my daily clarinet practice, physical exercise and occasional rock climbing I have the feeling the walls are closing in hard.
On a bright note, at least I was able to establish that routine.

My personal recommendation for everyone depressed: find some cool physical exercise. Took me forever to find a mix that works but it seems the feeling of physical fitness is invaluable to my mental state.
 

Prax

Member
HEY EVERYONE.

ARE YOU TIRED OF THE CHARACTER LIMIT ON TINYCHAT??
I said I would do it, so I had extra time today and did it (learn to set up an IRC thing, that is):

Please try it out:
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ADDRESS:
http://chat.mibbit.com

1. CONNECT: leave the server dropdown on mibbit

2. NICK: choose whatever nickname you want
(although if you want to reserve a nickname for yourself only, there are other steps you can take. I used this guide because it was easiest, even though we're not really in the mozilla servers: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
If you want to change your nickname at any time, type "/nick NAMEYOUWANT" )

3. CHANNEL: "#depression_gaf depressionsucks"
(type in all the stuff in the quotes. #depression_gaf is the channel, and the depressionsucks part is the password to enter)

4. Press the "CONNECT" button~!
(tabs on the top will display the different channels or private chats you are in)


PROS:
- No character limits
- PM-chat is easy, just click on the name you want to PM (new chat tab opens)
- You can also easily ignore someone if you really wanted (like me.. I think? Or maybe not because I am mod right now. LOL)
- You can disable awful smileys if you register/login (it's very easy)
- If you have multiple windows open, it has a handy red line for when you last read the message so you don't lose your place!
- Your nickname will be highlighted if someone types it
- If a new message is typed while you are away from a tab, the name or channel on the tab will turn white

CONS:
- Slightly complicated if you want to figure out how to do wacky things like register nicknames and setup password and the like inside the chat thing.
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My cousin might be in there. She's helping me test the channel out. She'd be a gaffer if they ever approved of her membership (so I hope you don't mind if she is there. She's cool~).. XD
 

Piano

Banned
Not that I am amazing with relationship type stuff but..
After reading this and some of your responses, I feel like you need to honestly talk to your girlfriend a little more about this and your plans of action, if any.
What is it about the past relationship that makes you feel so sentimental/nostalgic? Did you get closure when the relationship ended? Most people have nagging "what if" thoughts with past choices, but this is dragging you down a lot (or perhaps it's a "thing" you do in general.. Does ruminating about past experiences/choices plague you a lot besides this hangup on your ex that got triggered?).

It could also be that you are still madly in love with your ex and want to get back with her. I don't know. But my gut tells me that you just need to let that go. It's over. Doesn't matter how she feels now. Focus on what you have and your current life with your current girlfriend. This is what I think:

If you are the type to not dwell and overanalyze responses as if your life depended on it: Feel free to drop your ex a "Hey, seeing you again was really weird. Like a whole rush of emotions came back and I felt all nostalgic for those days again. Did you get hit with the same? lol". I don't know what her response will be, but you must be in a position to not take it seriously and move on.

If you are the type that DOES dwell and overanalyze responses as if your life depended on it: DO NOT PURSUE WHAT-IF SCENARIOS THAT ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT. Think of it as your emotions and memories being triggered by familiarity. It doesn't have to go deeper than that. Your "forgot" for 1.5 years before, and you will probably forget again.

I know my "advice" is not very gentle. And is kind of direct and possibly rude, but I wanted to be very clear. I am not a relationship expert, but oh man, I got opinions.

Thank you for this. I appreciate non-gentle realtalk advice.
I am an absolute pro at endless rumination, dwelling and speculation - though I've improved immensely in the past couple of years. I know I'll be able to get out of the cycle in a week or so.

(Anxiety-fueled rumination and the resulting disastrous mode of thinking are what landed me in intensive therapy in the first place!)

I have faith that I will 'forget' again once I get back into town and am with my girlfriend again. But I feel that these feelings were significant and, therefore, I have to investigate and analyze them before I decide to just shove them down.

I agree, I have to wait for a period of time until all of the negative connotation disappears to see whether I want to talk to my ex girlfriend, and if so, be able to do so in a neutral way (like you described). Because I don't expect any particular response. In fact, it would make my life simpler if she just said "no, get lost". I always feel that full disclosure and honesty is best - harder now but easier later.

Thanks a lot.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys. Ive been having many sad thoughts over a girl the last few weeks but seeing people with other issues within the same realm of depression helps. Moments of severe bitterness and unjustified self-pity still come to me but they are kept at bay by a desire to live and see more of what life holds (if it does indeed hold anything)
 

Prax

Member
Hey guys, come and try the irc chat. It's live and I'm still in it right now.

It will be a persistent room locked by a password, so you can go into it whenever you like.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDRESS:
http://chat.mibbit.com

1. CONNECT: leave the server dropdown on mibbit

2. NICK: choose whatever nickname you want
(although if you want to reserve a nickname for yourself only, there are other steps you can take. I used this guide because it was easiest, even though we're not really in the mozilla servers: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
If you want to change your nickname at any time, type "/nick NAMEYOUWANT" )

3. CHANNEL: "#depression_gaf depressionsucks"
(type in all the stuff in the quotation marks. #depression_gaf is the channel, and the depressionsucks part is the password to enter into the room)

4. Press the "CONNECT" button~!
(tabs on the top will display the different channels or private chats you are in)


PROS:
- No character limits
- PM-chat is easy, just click on the name you want to PM (new chat tab opens)
- You can also easily ignore someone if you really wanted (like me.. I think? Or maybe not because I am mod right now. LOL)
- You can disable awful smileys if you register/login (it's very easy)
- If you have multiple windows open, it has a handy red line for when you last read the message so you don't lose your place!
- Your nickname will be highlighted if someone types it
- If a new message is typed while you are away from a tab, the name or channel on the tab will turn white

CONS:
- Slightly complicated if you want to figure out how to do wacky things like register nicknames and setup password and the like inside the chat thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I've been thinking a lot about my depression lately...I attempted suicide twice in 2011, but since then I've gotten a lot better. I'm still depressed, especially post-graduation, but I never have suicidal thoughts anymore thankfully.

But, I've been looking over my life, and I think my depression partially stems from suppressed "transgendered" feelings. I'm not sure if that's the exact definition, but when I was young, like around six or so, I always identified with female characters in the shows I watched. This is a nerdy example, but me and my friends used to always play Digimon...we'd borrow goggles and put them on our heads and such, but I always dressed up as Sora (wearing a bike helmet as her hat) and thought she was the coolest character. Now, that's not exactly indicative of being a transgender, I know, but that's the earliest memory I can recall regarding strong urges of identifying with girls. It got progressed more so, as I was always teased for being girly due to stuff like crossing my legs and curtsying, you know, stereotypical girly stuff, and I started to purposefully raise the pitch of my voice to sound like a girl. I don't know why I did this exactly, but I did it all through high school. By then, though, it wasn't even on purpose...I found myself resorting to it automatically, and even now I find my voice changing on its own.

Of course, I got MERCILESSLY teased for this. I grew up in a pretty conservative area, so no one thought I wanted to be a girl or anything, they couldn't even factor that I guess, rather they thought I was gay. But I never felt I was gay. I don't have anything against gay people, but I just didn't feel like I was simply a guy who was attracted to other guys. And none of the actual gay people I've met in my life have ever said they identified with girls, or wanted to be one, which of course isn't surprising once I grew up and saw that being gay had nothing to do with how manly a person is. I've found myself attracted to both men and women throughout my life, mainly women, but I'm always unsure how much of that is simply trying to live up to social expectations. I've never been with anyone at all, though, and much of that is due to my gender issues. The most I've done is gave a gay guy a blowjob in College, and that was because I was drunk, lonely, and when I did it, I even asked him to act like I was a woman. I enjoyed it, but I felt extremely guilty afterwards because I totally led him on and never called him again.

Regardless, I ended up just living with the jeers. Around that time I also began my Internet career, and at first, I did the whole "I'm actually a girl" on the Internet routine. But it wasn't for sexual pleasure, or getting a laugh, I never used that to try and lead guys on or anything (and I was just a kid myself, so it's not like I was a predator), it was literally me trying to live a life I couldn't in real life. And I was also a stupid kid on the internet, haha. This was before the LJ/Tumblr craze, so I wasn't self-diagnosing myself as a pansexual aromantic with Sora as a Spirit Guide, luckily.

It got really bad in High School. I was always a bit awkward and nerdy, even without these issues, so I was really uncomfortable fitting in. I always felt upset when we split into boys/girls in Gym, and I found myself getting jealous of girls. Not like a hatred towards them or anything, but more like wishing I was like them. One time I even borrowed a girl's lipgloss and wore it, which ended up getting me in trouble and sent to the Principal's office. Why? They said it was disrupting the education environment. I finally confronted my parents about this behavior which I had always hid from them, and they didn't take it well...I expressed interest in a sex-change and, this is probably the worse thing I've ever heard from my parents, but my dad threatened to "cut it off" if I ever said that again. After that I NEVER brought it up to them again, and I've never mentioned these feelings to them since.

But when they weren't around, I continued to act out and express my desire to be like the other girls. I suffered tons of teasing for it, and really nasty bullying, which led to me more or less suppressing these desires and becoming "normal" by 12th Grade. Since then, I still have moments where it pops out, but I find myself hiding it since I don't think that anyone I'm close to would understand it. My whole family is super-conservative, and the people I work with are horribly close-minded...there's a post-op transsexual who shops at my work and people treat her HORRIBLY. Not just calling her "sir" to be rude, but literally refusing to serve her. But within me, it's always been a strong feeling...when I envision myself, I always see myself as a girl, and I "feel" like a girl. I love when people use feminine pronouns to refer to me over the phone when they mistake me for a girl. I hate looking in a mirror because then I see a guy.

So, yeah, I'm really unsure of what to do though, because I've been pulled in both directions all my life...I feel like a girl, but society sees me as a boy and has pushed me to regain my masculinity. I've come to feel more comfortable in being a man, yet I still have feelings about being a girl and they really have begun to bubble up lately amongst my depression. :/
 
So, I heard about this stuff called Adderall. It apparently makes you go super saiyan. I'd like to get my hands on some of it to try it out but that may be too difficult.

I've been thinking a lot about my depression lately...I attempted suicide twice in 2011, but since then I've gotten a lot better. I'm still depressed, especially post-graduation, but I never have suicidal thoughts anymore thankfully.

But, I've been looking over my life, and I think my depression partially stems from suppressed "transgendered" feelings. I'm not sure if that's the exact definition, but when I was young, like around six or so, I always identified with female characters in the shows I watched. This is a nerdy example, but me and my friends used to always play Digimon...we'd borrow goggles and put them on our heads and such, but I always dressed up as Sora (wearing a bike helmet as her hat) and thought she was the coolest character. Now, that's not exactly indicative of being a transgender, I know, but that's the earliest memory I can recall regarding strong urges of identifying with girls. It got progressed more so, as I was always teased for being girly due to stuff like crossing my legs and curtsying, you know, stereotypical girly stuff, and I started to purposefully raise the pitch of my voice to sound like a girl. I don't know why I did this exactly, but I did it all through high school. By then, though, it wasn't even on purpose...I found myself resorting to it automatically, and even now I find my voice changing on its own.

Of course, I got MERCILESSLY teased for this. I grew up in a pretty conservative area, so no one thought I wanted to be a girl or anything, they couldn't even factor that I guess, rather they thought I was gay. But I never felt I was gay. I don't have anything against gay people, but I just didn't feel like I was simply a guy who was attracted to other guys. And none of the actual gay people I've met in my life have ever said they identified with girls, or wanted to be one, which of course isn't surprising once I grew up and saw that being gay had nothing to do with how manly a person is. I've found myself attracted to both men and women throughout my life, mainly women, but I'm always unsure how much of that is simply trying to live up to social expectations. I've never been with anyone at all, though, and much of that is due to my gender issues. The most I've done is gave a gay guy a blowjob in College, and that was because I was drunk, lonely, and when I did it, I even asked him to act like I was a woman. I enjoyed it, but I felt extremely guilty afterwards because I totally led him on and never called him again.

Regardless, I ended up just living with the jeers. Around that time I also began my Internet career, and at first, I did the whole "I'm actually a girl" on the Internet routine. But it wasn't for sexual pleasure, or getting a laugh, I never used that to try and lead guys on or anything (and I was just a kid myself, so it's not like I was a predator), it was literally me trying to live a life I couldn't in real life. And I was also a stupid kid on the internet, haha. This was before the LJ/Tumblr craze, so I wasn't self-diagnosing myself as a pansexual aromantic with Sora as a Spirit Guide, luckily.

It got really bad in High School. I was always a bit awkward and nerdy, even without these issues, so I was really uncomfortable fitting in. I always felt upset when we split into boys/girls in Gym, and I found myself getting jealous of girls. Not like a hatred towards them or anything, but more like wishing I was like them. One time I even borrowed a girl's lipgloss and wore it, which ended up getting me in trouble and sent to the Principal's office. Why? They said it was disrupting the education environment. I finally confronted my parents about this behavior which I had always hid from them, and they didn't take it well...I expressed interest in a sex-change and, this is probably the worse thing I've ever heard from my parents, but my dad threatened to "cut it off" if I ever said that again. After that I NEVER brought it up to them again, and I've never mentioned these feelings to them since.

But when they weren't around, I continued to act out and express my desire to be like the other girls. I suffered tons of teasing for it, and really nasty bullying, which led to me more or less suppressing these desires and becoming "normal" by 12th Grade. Since then, I still have moments where it pops out, but I find myself hiding it since I don't think that anyone I'm close to would understand it. My whole family is super-conservative, and the people I work with are horribly close-minded...there's a post-op transsexual who shops at my work and people treat her HORRIBLY. Not just calling her "sir" to be rude, but literally refusing to serve her. But within me, it's always been a strong feeling...when I envision myself, I always see myself as a girl, and I "feel" like a girl. I love when people use feminine pronouns to refer to me over the phone when they mistake me for a girl. I hate looking in a mirror because then I see a guy.

So, yeah, I'm really unsure of what to do though, because I've been pulled in both directions all my life...I feel like a girl, but society sees me as a boy and has pushed me to regain my masculinity. I've come to feel more comfortable in being a man, yet I still have feelings about being a girl and they really have begun to bubble up lately amongst my depression. :/

That's a difficult situation you're in. It's hard when people don't understand/shun you out of misunderstanding or fear.

I would like to say more but the risk of being identified places a restriction on what information I can share.
 

Sora_N

Member
I'm reaching a boiling point maybe, I dunno. I don't know if I'm just fucking stressed with depression on top or depressed with stress. I know I haven't really felt happy in a long time, except a few weeks ago when I got a 50% off Lego card (super lucky).

My gf's mother passed away 2 months ago, after fighting cancer for 2 years. We've been together for about 2 years. I just had so much I had to deal with. Sometimes I want to die too and not deal with it, because honestly I don't know what the fuck I can do. She has no siblings, and her dad is also sick and super emotional. Nothing is going her way, and I have to deal with everything. I don't know what I can do. Now I basically have to try to figure out a way to talk to my parents (who I'm not close with, not close with my family that much..I'm not very talky) and get them to let her live here a few days a week. She's crying and screaming saying I don't care, and I just got really pissed off and started yelling. I have so much put on me I don't even know what to do, and I'm not even the one whose mother passed away... I feel like I'm just an asshole or something. I don't really have many close friends, and I don't know HOW to talk to anyone about any of this shit, dammit.

I started using alcohol to sleep whenever I can't sleep. I'm probably gonna get some whiskey tonight.

I might get canned at work soon, the sad part is that...I already decided to be an Accountant. I got my Bachelor's in 2011, and going for an Accounting Diploma. I just payed for 2 courses, 1400$. I don't know if I can handle school while fearing for losing my job and also everything else. :/
 

Xun

Member
I'm actively pursuing into ways I can sort my life out this year, and I'm almost tempted to look into studying in Canada for a year to gain new life experiences and better myself.

I need a reset, and I think that could be a way of doing it.
 

heidern

Junior Member
I'm actively pursuing into ways I can sort my life out this year, and I'm almost tempted to look into studying in Canada for a year to gain new life experiences and better myself.

I need a reset, and I think that could be a way of doing it.

That's a great idea. Being British will also give you an angle, people will be more interested in you and also be more friendly and considerate(people naturally be helpful to someone that might not know their way around).
 
I'm actively pursuing into ways I can sort my life out this year, and I'm almost tempted to look into studying in Canada for a year to gain new life experiences and better myself.

I need a reset, and I think that could be a way of doing it.
Sounds great. Best of luck man. I'm having a hard time consistently being active about sorting my life and not wasting time. It's difficult even though you know what to do to feel better and do spend your time productively. Really fell into a spiral of wasting time this weekend again. Why does this shit have to be so hard when you don't want to waste time and be unproductive! Fuck man.
 

Az987

all good things
I've been using omega 3 pills to treat my bipolar disorder. I didn't want to be on any strong medication because I was sick of dealing with side effects so over the summer I decided I'd give that a shot. I used this site to help figure out the dosage and whatever.

That site took the results of all the clinical studies done to see if omega-3 can treat bipolar disorder and depression and compiled the results. Basically, it showed that it seemed to help some people if you take a pill that is at least 60% EPA omega-3 of the total amount of fish oil and you take at least 1 gram total EPA daily. Over 2 grams may hurt depression rather than help.

Well, I started doing it over the summer just to see if it would help but like a lot of people who take things to treat depression, I couldn't really figure out if it was helping or not.

Last week I ran out of pills and had to wait about a week to get more and since then I've been having noticeably worse mood swings and depession. That is the only thing that's really changed in my life so I'm thinking maybe it was helping to an extent.

I think I might have fucked up a good relationship I had been in during that week lol but I guess that's that.

Anyway, I just figured I'd share my little test results so if anyone else was interested in trying it but wasn't aware that omega-3 has been shown to at least do something to some people with depression they'd now know.
 

Bururian

Member
Is it possible to have a small case of manic depression? I can be completely fine in any one given day, then for no reason at all, I get sad, and it will ruin the rest of my day. It happens a lot too.
 

pradator

Neo Member
Is it possible to have a small case of manic depression? I can be completely fine in any one given day, then for no reason at all, I get sad, and it will ruin the rest of my day. It happens a lot too.

im sort of the same. its one of the main reasons why im afraid to talk to friends/family about it because a lot of my most depressed episodes are when im alone so a very small amount of people have seen the extent of how bad it can be
 

Collete

Member
Wah.. so many computer troubles you have! Hopefully you get something decent and reliable soon!
That is a really cute crocodile. I want to ride it~ It reminds me of a dream I had last night of having a crocodile (I keep wanting to call it alligator, but crocs are the ones with more gracile snouts) in a large fish tank that I apparently owned in the dream. It was really cute and just basking in the lamplight.
You should go write! Even if it's like.. random distraction writing. Poetic intro. Scene/setting description. Anything!

Aww thanks for the compliment. Well some people think it's an alligator as well!
A little update on the writing, I wrote my first ever page on my book. Only problem is, it's about a flying boat and I know crap on describing boats on what makes them look realistic and what not. Have to look up on boats I guess. But a good start I guess.
 

Xun

Member
That's a great idea. Being British will also give you an angle, people will be more interested in you and also be more friendly and considerate(people naturally be helpful to someone that might not know their way around).

Sounds great. Best of luck man. I'm having a hard time consistently being active about sorting my life and not wasting time. It's difficult even though you know what to do to feel better and do spend your time productively. Really fell into a spiral of wasting time this weekend again. Why does this shit have to be so hard when you don't want to waste time and be unproductive! Fuck man.
It's literally just an idea for now and given how much it costs, I doubt it'll happen. But who knows?

I will try and change myself this year however, whatever happens. I'm looking into going on a few trips this year, namely Germany next month, Scotland (I'm from England so it's not too hard to get to), and hopefully America. I luckily know a few people I could stay with in these countries, so it helps with the cost.

I certainly know how it feels to waste time, since I've been procrastinating a lot this weekend. It's annoying since I was dead set on working on a new piece of animation to get my showreel up to scratch, but I'm just not sure where to begin. It's upsetting since I feel trapped in my current job, and I need to get a new showreel done so that I can stand a chance getting an animation job.

I've just got to try and stay positive, somehow.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I've been thinking a lot about my depression lately...

First off, congrats for not feeling suicidal anymore. Deciding that killing yourself is not a good option is a necessary step for getting out of severe depression. That's definitely something that's way easier said than done for many suicidal people with a very negative, cloudy, hopeless view of the world and their circumstances. Secondly, fuck people who mistreat you based on your unique sexual preferences. They're truly ignorant and assholes (not to insult your parents, but even otherwise good people can hold ignorant views). You have to have a backbone and stand up for yourself in some situations, though. My uncle is gay (I know you said you don't identify as being gay but you probably have similar feelings of alienation) and once he was beaten outside a gay bar and hospitalized. They beat him because he was gay. That really pissed me off so you need to be ready to not take shit from others (verbally and especially physically if you're being teased by the brute type). There's still many members of society who feel the same sexual feelings you do and there are other members of society who don't share those feelings, but will tolerate those who do. You sound like you have a pretty "out-there" attitude towards your gender but hopefully you'll be able to get into a comfortable position within life whether it be from having an operation done on you or you coming to accept your masculinity more.

I've just got to try and stay positive, somehow.

Hope that your move is able to come to fruition. I want to move out of West Texas by Summer 2014.

Having a goal is pretty effective at keeping somebody positive. One pretty surefire way to gain more momentum is to get notches under your belt from being productive. So do as I say and not as I do and get off Gaf lol. Get some coffee or tea and hit the gym/animation/books/part-time job/whatevar.
 

Collete

Member
Too stressed about my life right now...
What triggered it was stupid but...I'm scared I only have a year left till I finish my bachelor's degree, but I know I can't survive after graduation as sad as that sounds.
I just don't know what the hell I'm doing or where I need to steer it...Scaring me I guess.
 

Prez

Member
If I had HIV I might just avoid the treatments and let it take me.

Quoting this from another thread because it has no place there.

I'm ignoring you from now on. Are you like this to people in real life? If so, that's the real reason people don't like you, it's not because of all the bullshit you tell yourself. You're only making things worse for yourself.

However you're still very welcome to let me know when you do something new. I'm going to rent a clarinet next month and learn to play. Playing music can be very therapeutic. Did you know that most great jazz musicians were the most miserable people on earth? They only felt good when they played. Whenever they weren't playing they were in hell. I read a lot of biographies and I can somehow relate to them. I feel a connection with them that I don't have with anyone in real life, probably never will. Their lives are not to take an example of and I would never want to live their lives, but the stories and music inspire me each and every day to dream big and never give up despite constant failure.

Find the kind of inspiration I have and you will find the will to live. You have to see beauty in life and that will get you through all the misery. I guess it's much like being deeply religious in a way.
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Sorry Prez but you have the sensitivity of a rhino. What are you doing here? Have you never been so down and out you thought of somehow dying but don't really wanna commit suicide? When your energy is that of a wet rug and what you really need is love and care first, and a small buttkick later?
Don't react to stuff that you seem to be ignorant to in this thread. Thanks.
 

Omni

Member
Mmmm.

I really hate my life. Every night I've been having thoughts of suicide. At one point I was actively searching for ways to kill myself. I hate it. I hate myself. I hate the way I act. I hate how shy I am. I hate how everything I do seems worthless. I hate going to bed and just breaking down because I'm pathetic. I hate that I HAVE to avoid my friends because I don't feel good enough to talk to them. I hate that I'm too much of a child to just end it now. Argh.

I've been like this for a year now. Failed my last semester of university because I couldn't bring myself to get out of bed and face the people around me. I'm at the point now where I have nothing to live for. I'm just over everything.

...

Sorry guys. I just needed to vent. Tonight hasn't been good.
 
Mmmm.

I really hate my life. Every night I've been having thoughts of suicide. At one point I was actively searching for ways to kill myself. I hate it. I hate myself. I hate the way I act. I hate how shy I am. I hate how everything I do seems worthless. I hate going to bed and just breaking down because I'm pathetic. I hate that I HAVE to avoid my friends because I don't feel good enough to talk to them. I hate that I'm too much of a child to just end it now. Argh.

I've been like this for a year now. Failed my last semester of university because I couldn't bring myself to get out of bed and face the people around me. I'm at the point now where I have nothing to live for. I'm just over everything.

...

Sorry guys. I just needed to vent. Tonight hasn't been good.
I don't know how these places work where you live, but please try to get in to see a therapist and a psychiatrist. You don't have to feel that way and it's not your fault that you do.

I hope tomorrow is better for you, and sorry for preaching to the choir, I've been like that for a few years now. It won't get better unless you do something about it.
 
Been going to a counselor the past couple of months due to some marital/personal issues. Last visit he scheduled me a visit with the psychiatrist for a depression diagnosis. First appointment is today, what should I expect? Similar to the counselor/therapist or is it more clinical/straight forward with Q&A?
 
Been going to a counselor the past couple of months due to some marital/personal issues. Last visit he scheduled me a visit with the psychiatrist for a depression diagnosis. First appointment is today, what should I expect? Similar to the counselor/therapist or is it more clinical/straight forward with Q&A?
It depends entirely on the clinic/psychiatrist.

In the US, a lot of psychiatrists have trended towards more clinical because they don't have much time to spend with each individual patient, which is why more people see them in combination with a therapist of some kind.
 

Piano

Banned
i got depression
Blame space, you've dropped in the thread multiple times at this point without elaborating at all. If you'd like some discussion and support please let us know what's going on - just drive-bying over and over again isn't going to get much of anywhere.

(Assuming you're not trolling, and in this case I'll give you the benefit of the doubt)
 
It depends entirely on the clinic/psychiatrist.

In the US, a lot of psychiatrists have trended towards more clinical because they don't have much time to spend with each individual patient, which is why more people see them in combination with a therapist of some kind.

Thanks. I’m hoping my therapist was able to provide at least a basic evaluation of myself without having to go through the process of introducing myself/my issues to a new person. I know it’ll be helpful in the long run, but the prospect of having to reintroduce my life to another doctor stresses me out. Or if it can kept clinical and I’ll still have my therapist for all that.
 

BadTaste

Member
Going to the Doctor on Thursday about depression for the first time, no doubt he'll give me antidepressants.

Asking GAF, how do you feel after taking antidepressants? Not really sure how else to ask that question...
 

Piano

Banned
Going to the Doctor on Thursday about depression for the first time, no doubt he'll give me antidepressants.

Asking GAF, how do you feel after taking antidepressants? Not really sure how else to ask that question...

Well, 'antidepressants' is an extremely broad category comprised of many, many different types of medication. Different sorts of medication work for different people so any anecdotes you're going to get are just that - anecdotes.

If you want to familiarize yourself with a lot of medications (anecdotally) I always enjoyed reading all of the entries at crazymeds.us whenever I needed to make sense of it all.

If you've got questions about specific medications or want to know what did / didn't work for me specifically feel free to ask :)
 

BadTaste

Member
Well, 'antidepressants' is an extremely broad category comprised of many, many different types of medication. Different sorts of medication work for different people so any anecdotes you're going to get are just that - anecdotes.

If you want to familiarize yourself with a lot of medications (anecdotally) I always enjoyed reading all of the entries at crazymeds.us whenever I needed to make sense of it all.

If you've got questions about specific medications or want to know what did / didn't work for me specifically feel free to ask :)

Gonna chill and read the link you sent me, thanks. Pretty clueless about antidepressants so..
 
So, I heard about this stuff called Adderall. It apparently makes you go super saiyan. I'd like to get my hands on some of it to try it out but that may be too difficult.

If you're anywhere near a college campus, this stuff is incredibly easy to find.

Careful if you do end up messing around with it though, the comedowns from a one-time dose can be pretty rough. I've had some of my most depressive thoughts and feelings while crashing from adderall
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Going to the Doctor on Thursday about depression for the first time, no doubt he'll give me antidepressants.

Asking GAF, how do you feel after taking antidepressants? Not really sure how else to ask that question...

I'm working on a brief guide to talk therapies - the therapist vs psychiatrist, drugs vs talk therapy, Freud's mom vs Jung's mom kinda questions that come up all the time in the thread.

In the meantime, here are the 4 key points:

1) talk therapy plus meds is universally agreed to be the best choice (assuming the universe is composed only of people who believe in science).

2) talk therapies are all more or less equally effective overall

3) the common drugs are all more or less equally effective

4) the drugs, therapies, and combinations that work for you are going to depend on your biology, psychology, social support, life experience, and on and on.

Like Piano, I'm happy to talk on and on about the meds I've tried, what I've been taught in the clinic (e.g. zoloft is the preferred drug for pregnant ladies or, presumably, pregnant men), what I've read.

I read every post in the thread, but I haven't had tons to contribute lately. I'm kinda saving up my strength for a few megaposts.

In the meantime, let me leave you with this actual quote from the clinic: "I'm just not that comfortable with all that traffic through my vagina."
 

Piano

Banned
^^ Yeah I took adderall a few times when the motivation to do large papers simply wasn't showing up in time. The comedown is absolutely brutal. By the third time I figured out how to spread the dose appropriately over time to avoid the worst of it but it still dragged me down for a day afterwards.

I really, really wouldn't recommend it. It sucks that there's so much pressure on college campuses these days to use adderall / vyvanse / ritalin / etc. You jump on the train or you fall behind.

I suggest falling behind. Be a solid B student, not a miserable, overworked cracked out A student.
 

Collete

Member
Anything you can identify behind it, or just a good old pitch and yaw?

Pitch and yaw?
I know what it is, brain being stupid about emotions and conflicting with my present relations with my friends and boyfriend. (it is mostly that)
But also, an ex-friend whom I was close to that betrayed me months ago, all of a sudden emailed me apologizing about the past.
It reminded me of all the horrible things he has done to me and a reminder how I can trust no one or see straight anymore.
 
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